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411ken 07-23-2012 04:29 PM

speaking of Kassian... Am I the only one that wished he kept the #54 ? IMO, it suits him better and looks meaner lol

I know it's just a number but ya.. lol



GrapeDrink 07-23-2012 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 7983576)
actually, i proposed Ballard, Raymond, X player, and a First rounder for Bobby Ryan

Gee.. it's not so far fetched as you clowns made it seem now that a FAR superior player in Nash goes for slightly more?

*yawn

thats completely different though imo, Nash really fucked Columbus with his list of like 5 teams he would agree to go to, where as Ryan could be dealt anywhere and is on a much better contract. It also sure didn't help with Howson as GM .. that guy was demanding for like an under 23 franchise type F back + their first born child, like its not going to help when you already down to 5 teams and you just piss like 3 of them off with your shitty trade demands, he wanted Couture from SJ and I believe a first round pick LOL.

spideyv2 07-23-2012 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 7983576)
actually, i proposed Ballard, Raymond, X player, and a First rounder for Bobby Ryan

Gee.. it's not so far fetched as you clowns made it seem now that a FAR superior player in Nash goes for slightly more?

*yawn

You proposed Raymond and Booth, fucking idiot.

Lol, how are people calling Kassian an AHL plug? The kid is 21. SMFH

cdizzle_996 07-23-2012 05:02 PM

Kassian haters are CoHo cock riders..

kwy 07-23-2012 05:21 PM

I'll give Kassian credit where its due when he lives up to his expectations. Until then, he's just another 4th liner.

OGCStrike 07-23-2012 05:43 PM

if kassian is considered a plug, then what is raymond and his ultimate falling skills ? :badpokerface:

murd0c 07-23-2012 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by OGCStrike (Post 7983686)
if kassian is considered a plug, then what is raymond and his ultimate falling skills ? :badpokerface:

hopefully trade bait after he starts strong

Vansterdam 07-23-2012 05:57 PM

holy fuck cbj gm is retarded


might have to put 20$ preseason bet on NYR to win the cup now :concentrate:
or nucks of course :troll:

jdmhaze 07-23-2012 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kwy (Post 7983548)
Fuck Kassian, until he proves himself he still a fucking AHL plug

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Originally Posted by kwy (Post 7983558)
Dominating in the AHL doesn't matter. Until he can translate that success to the NHL, he's a plug.

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Originally Posted by kwy (Post 7983665)
I'll give Kassian credit where its due when he lives up to his expectations. Until then, he's just another 4th liner.

Easy bro, Kassian got your jimmies rustled? Im sorry about that. But lets give the kid a break. Hes 21 years old and only played half a season with the Canucks. EVERYONE (but you) knows hes still in development. You're just making yourself look like a complete moron

spideyv2 07-23-2012 06:22 PM

Kassian fucked kwy's girlfriend, so it seems

OGCStrike 07-23-2012 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cdizzle_996 (Post 7983647)
Kassian haters are CoHo cock riders..

i guess kwy is one of them :concentrate:

DanHibiki 07-23-2012 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cdizzle_996 (Post 7983647)
Kassian haters are CoHo cock riders..

What if I like both? Does that make me a slut?

spideyv2 07-23-2012 06:33 PM

^Nah, Booth has a cute smile

nohomo

waitwut?

edit - lol, i just realized you said both, not booth

Hondaracer 07-23-2012 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jayare604 (Post 7983636)
You proposed Raymond and Booth, fucking idiot.

Lol, how are people calling Kassian an AHL plug? The kid is 21. SMFH

lol where did i ever say definitively thats what i figured would get him?

I said nonchalantly to package those 2 up in an attempt at Ryan, then people run with it as me being 100% serious that that could work out..

Now that Nash moves for that, a package involving those 2 is not out of the realm of possibility, it will most likely never happen but EXACTLY as i said, his value would be along similar lines to what i said, and when a player like Nash goes for value such as that, it's not exactly far-fetched..

and dont let the no trade clause fool you, that may have lessened the value slightly, but when your dealing with a team like the Rangers you have all the power you need to broker a deal their hands were not tied as tight as you may think when the teams Nash is willing to go to are also most of the power brokers in this league.

Noir 07-23-2012 09:08 PM

Wasn't it from 7seven (a Sabre fan) that stated, it wasn't the ability that was Kassian's problem that ultimately had him being shipped out. It was his work ethic? (or maybe it was Gragnani?)


Anyways, If what I recall is correct, and the above is true, then it really doesn't matter how fit he is, how athletic he may be, it's a matter of whether he can bring it night in and night out; and not pick and choose his games.

And considering his role, I'm not even going to bother rating him based on how much points he accumulates. All I just want from him is to keep throwing his weight even when times get tough; not when pick and choose easy games with teams who are smaller and/or less physical.

If he can do just that and only that.. I'll be satisfied in his contribution.

kwy 07-23-2012 09:13 PM

I don't hate Kassian. I'm sure he's a nice guy, and maybe in a few years he'll play a more significant role. Just don't act like he's already a star, because he's barely an NHLer yet.

spideyv2 07-23-2012 09:22 PM

No one is acting like he's a star. Depending on how he develops over the season

Booth-Kesler-Kassian

Would make a solid, physical power line

Happy 07-24-2012 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jayare604 (Post 7983911)
No one is acting like he's a star. Depending on how he develops over the season

Booth-Kesler-Kassian

Would make a solid, physical power line

Kassian won't be a 2nd liner by the start of next season
give it 2-4 years to see how he develops

Hopefully he goes through the same developmental process as burrows (Vancouver is pretty amazing at developing players) did and turn out into a milan lucic type player

murd0c 07-24-2012 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by kwy (Post 7983904)
I don't hate Kassian. I'm sure he's a nice guy, and maybe in a few years he'll play a more significant role. Just don't act like he's already a star, because he's barely an NHLer yet.

The fans are making him look that way not him... hopefully the push by the fans made him work extra hard this summer and we will see a big improvment this season. Not only that being such a young player being traded might of had a impact on his progression so with a full training camp he should hopefully adjust easier this year.

MR_BIGGS 07-24-2012 06:51 AM

Hodgson was on OTR last week. His goal for the season is 30 goals. His training with Roberts has him looking pretty lean. Definately put on some weight, but looks in great shape.

b0unce. [?] 07-24-2012 07:15 AM

oh man, rangers nabbed nash for nothing! nash is going to crush in ny.

kristianhay 07-24-2012 08:01 AM

Some news relative to the Canucks. Good news on the Eddie Lack front.

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News1130 Sports ‏@News1130Sports
Still no contract for #Canucks goalie Eddie Lack but his agent tells us he's had good conversations with the team.
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News1130 Sports ‏@News1130Sports
PHO newspaper says Shane Doan has given Coyotes till Friday to get their ownership in order.
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News1130 Sports ‏@News1130Sports
Would be shocked if Doan's free agent tour does not include a trip to meet Canucks.
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News1130 Sports ‏@News1130Sports
Shane Doan's agent Terry Bross tells CKWX that "most likely" Shane will visit the #Canucks in Vancouver.

pastarocket 07-24-2012 09:29 AM

An interesting article about what Gillis discussed during his radio interview with Team1040on July 23rd. I know Gillis does things a little differently than other GMs in terms of draft strategy, player development, free agent signings, and trades, but it sounds like he's a big supporter of analytics.

-sounds a bit like that Moneyball movie with Brad Pitt and the Oakland A's:

Mike Gillis discussed analytics on Vancouver radio station | The Province

sonick 07-24-2012 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by pastarocket (Post 7984255)
-sounds a bit like that Moneyball movie with Brad Pitt and the Oakland A's:

From the beginning (even before the movie came out) he's mentioned that his philosophy for managing the team is modeled after ideas from Moneyball.

Great article, nonetheless.

highfive 07-24-2012 10:25 AM

I want to see his analytics of Raymond. lol


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