NHL IS BACK! The Official 2012/2013 Canucks & NHL Thread

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Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie
Hearing ANA's Bobby Ryan is "available" again after being taken off trade market after Randy Carlyle's Duck departure.

Here we go again, you know Burkie will be all over this again

[RiceIntegraRS]

Im really hoping this season MG decides to get a top-tier forward. Someone that is a proven scorer. I honestly could care less what the 4th line looks like atm, cause in the end. That 4th line aint playing more than 8 mins a game anyways. Look what the Kings did, they added 2 All-star forwards to there lineup in Richards and Carter and we all know what happened.

Parise, Ryan , and Nash are at the top of my wishlists. But Parise may come free. Id be happy with Semin, Doan or Jokinen aswell.

[MR_BIGGS]

Reading the following Holik on Hockey blog post by BobbyK, can't help by feel he hit the nail on the head:

Trading Roberto Luongo | Bobby Holik - Holik on Hockey

Trading Roberto Luongo
June 19th, 2012 | posted by BobbyK

Roberto Luongo is likely to be traded in the coming days, and it will close the book on a turbulent time for both Luongo and the Vancouver Canucks.

I must admit, I am not a huge fan of Luongo. I did not like the way he handled himself in the 2011 Stanley Cup Final, and his poor choices of words during press conferences.

Luongo is a very good goalie, and he will probably achieve greatness before his career wraps up. He has always been athletic for his size and has made adjustments to his game during his career to keep up with the game. This is not easy to do, especially for goaltenders. He reached the pinnacle of his career during the span between winning the Gold Medal for Team Canada in 2010 and bringing his team to the Stanley Cup Final in 2011.

Despite his aforementioned off-ice moments, he has not gotten the credit he deserved for bringing his team to a game seven. The lack of credit he has gotten says a lot about what kind of market Vancouver is. Vancouver’s media and fans put unreasonable expectations on some of their payers, which is to be expected, because they have never won a Stanley Cup in their history. They are desperate for success, demand perfection, and this has hurt Luongo’s ability to provide consistently great goaltending.

Hopefully for Luongo’s and his new team’s sake, he is traded to a smaller market where he can just focus on playing the game. Watching Luongo, it seems getting away from the game on his time off would be optimum for his play. In cities like Vancouver, or any other in Canada, there are no off days.

It is quite a feat to thrive in such big cities, like Mats Sundin (and many others) have done. Any Player can adjust physical aspects of their game. They can change their training, diets, or other routines. However, you cannot change the personality, and often the mind is more important in this business than the body. Teams need to make a personality evaluation when trading for a player, and players need to know what towns they are most likely to thrive in.

If I was Luongo, I would stay about as far away from Toronto as I could. I could not understand why he would want to go play in a bigger fishbowl than Vancouver. If the Vancouver media was tough to deal with, Toronto’s would eat him alive. Also, why would Luongo want to go play for a rebuilding, identity-less team with a new coach at this stage of his career?

The biggest winner in the Luongo trade will be the Canucks. They will rid themselves of his massive contract, a goalie who could not get it done when it mattered the most, and open the door for Corey Schneider. Although Schneider has yet to be tested as a starter in Vancouver, the Canucks play has improved with him in the net.

I always look to free agency with interest to see how the map of power changes amongst the teams. Ryan Suter and Zach Parise are homegrown core players, whose teams would love to keep as integral parts of their organizations. Luongo is not a homegrown Canuck, and soon, they will have a goalie who will be, Corey Schneider.

[Gumby]

Brings back memories...

[Tim Budong]

Karlsson inks 7 years with the sens at 6.5m/per totalling 45.5 mil

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=398747

[Gh0stRider]

damn Erik Karlsson

[highfive]

$6.5 million is not bad when Doughty is signed for $7 million?

Wonder how this will affect Edler's contract next season.

[pastarocket]

Bobby Ryan would be look good in a Canucks uniform. Another tweet by the TSN insider McKenzie:

@TSNBobMcKenzie

If ANA moves Ryan I suspect it would be for two or three building block pieces that would increase organizational depth but not payroll.

Ducks forward Ryan may be on trade market again

-similar salary cap hit between Ryan and Luongo.

[PornMaster]

Edler can not be compared to those 2 lol

[jeedee]

Originally Posted by pastarocket

-similar salary cap hit between Ryan and Luongo.

If you're trying to imply a Luongo/Ryan swap--it's not happening.

Ducks already have Hiller.

[Tim Budong]

Ducks have a bit of financial issues... would be a big dump with assets coming back

[Hondaracer]

Originally Posted by Gumby

Brings back memories...

oh look, a couple guys who didnt win cups either

[spideyv2]

Originally Posted by jeedee

If you're trying to imply a Luongo/Ryan swap--it's not happening.

Ducks already have Hiller.

Rofl. The idea of that trade is retarded, but get er done MG!!!!!

[RiceIntegraRS]

I wanna see some 3 way trades. Seems like teams that need goalies dont have anything to offer us, and teams that have players we want, need defencemen

To Vancouver
Bobby Ryan and Plug

To Toronto
Roberto Luongo and Mason Raymond

To Anahiem
Jake Gardiner and Pick

One can only hope......

[jeedee]

I actually think that's a pretty good 3 way trade that's fair and benefits all 3 teams.

Still a pipedream

[Hondaracer]

Raymond is at the lowest point in value of his career he isn't worth any actual value in a trade

[Greenstoner]

Refer to last page about Kane walking out on a bill, I think it's because he's black the mentality kicked in

[Gilgamesh]

Originally Posted by RiceIntegraRS

I wanna see some 3 way trades. Seems like teams that need goalies dont have anything to offer us, and teams that have players we want, need defencemen

To Vancouver
Bobby Ryan and Plug

To Toronto
Roberto Luongo and Mason Raymond

To Anahiem
Jake Gardiner and Pick

One can only hope......

Jake Gardiner was traded from Anaheim to Toronto. Anaheim is content with their D situation and can just draft one with their pick. They also recently signed a goalie from the SEL...fasth?

[Mike Oxbig]

gardiner will not be moved as long as burke is the GM of the leafs

[Tim Budong]

for anyone that gives a crap
awards is tonight

[kristianhay]

Canucks' prospect Jensen either plays in NHL or jets to Sweden

Canucks' top prospect Nicklas Jensen will either play in Sweden or in the NHL next season and has closed the door on returning to the OHL Oshawa Generals, his agent said on Wednesday.

A variety of factors played into the decision, said Anton Thun, but chief amongst them was the belief that Jensen, 19 – a Canucks first round pick (29th overall) a year ago – needs to play professional hockey next season. An agreement with Canadian major junior hockey prevents 19-year-old players from playing for NHL clubs' minor league teams.

“If he's not playing with the Canucks, he's going to be in Sweden,” said Thun. “That's the best course for his development. In Sweden, he'll face a better level of competition.”

Although Jensen, a 6-foot-3, 200-pound winger, had an impressive training camp and preseason with the Canucks last year, he's still a long-shot to make the NHL club in the fall.

Thun said he is talking to “three or four” teams in the Swedish Elite League – Sweden's top professional league – to place Jensen there on a one-year deal. Thun said Jensen will train with his Swedish club in August and then be released to attend Canucks training camp in September. Of course, with a new NHL's collective bargaining agreement very much up in the air, it remains to be seen if training camps are held as usually scheduled.

If Jensen were to stick with Vancouver, he would have an out-clause from the Swedish contract, the agent said.

Thun also said that Jensen made a quick recovery from the concussion he suffered in the playoffs with the Chicago Wolves and has had no issues.

Jensen, a native of Denmark, had 25 goals and 58 points in 57 games last season, his second in Oshawa.

Read more: Canucks' prospect Jensen either plays in NHL or jets to Sweden

What do you guys think his shot is at making the squad? I say pretty slim but you never know - I do agree that playing another year in the OHL will do little for his development.

Gillis was on the Team 1040 today, stated they had qualified MAG.

TEAM Radio ‏@TEAM1040
Gillis on Jensen: It's his decision to do that (Sweden).We think he has a chance to be a bigtime player. Really pleased with his development

TEAM Radio ‏@TEAM1040
RT @blakeprice1040: Gillis confirms they'll try and get Jensen to Swedish League if NHL not appropriate for him.. Not AHL eligible yet....

[spideyv2]

That AHL/CHL rule is fucking retarded. I understand the CHL needs to make money, but at the cost of a prospects development? GTFO

[highfive]

Seeing Jensen play last year in the preseason. I would not be surprised if he makes the team next season.

[kristianhay]

TEAM Radio ‏@TEAM1040
Schneider’s agent, Mike Liut to ESPN: "They’d like to get Cory signed, Cory would like to sign in Vancouver." Rumblings: Trade talk is heating up - Cross Checks Blog - ESPN

The next couple of days will be very interesting.

http://www.teamradio.ca/news/gillis-...d-free-agency/

[b0unce. [?]]

im crossing my fingers hoping both will stay