Brentwood is one of those malls that looks great on rendering but when it came to reality, it is a total flop. Half the shops require people to walk outside (e.g. LL Bean). When the weather is shit, you have to walk long the edge of the mall or else you'll be exposed to the rain. Also, speaking of LL Bean, who the f*ck even shops there? I've passed by it maybe 3-4 times and there looks to be more staff than customers.

You know the mall is good when Uniqlo establishes a store there.

I parked at the lower level at Brentwood once and the funnel effect of the way the layers are laid out was freezing.

They want to do the same thing to Metrotown and make it a high street style area. What kind of dumbshit thinks that's a good idea in a city that rains 90% of the time in the winter.

same with oakridge. that new open air concept is horseshit. its gonna be FREEZING ass cold

you all want underground city with shops and tunnels that connect you everywhere ... like Toronto?

Or just the traditional mall like Metrotown where you can walk inside the mall.

What I really like to see is some retail around train stations like HK. Grab a pastry/bun, coffee, jump on train etc. 90% of our Translink stations are bare.

I'll take indoor malls like metrotown. Temperature controlled, don't have to deal with rain and snow. Even in Hong Kong, I stick to malls. Maybe I have a weak immunity system, but constantly going from hot and cold environments royally messes me up. Vancouver's not very walkable either. How many people here can survive long term without a car?

Uptown Shopping Center here in Victoria, which is one of these open air malls seems to do very well. It's probably more busy than both Hillside & Mayfair malls which are traditional indoor style.

Looks like prices in the 3-4 million dollar range are dropping down slowly. Some of the listings that were 3.3 - 3.5 are now 3.1ish.

Maybe that mortgage rate is finally having an effect.

I'm hoping the place I rent, the prices drop so I can buy in :alone:

I think if there is anywhere to have open air type malls in Canada it's here in the lower mainland.

Personally, I try and avoid shopping at retail locations but if I'm going to do it I head directly to the store I'm targeting, get in and get out so if I have to head outside to hit a store it's not really a big deal to me. My first choice is always online, only when I can't find what I want online do I head to the mall.

https://i.postimg.cc/nryy778R/IMG-5480.jpg

This is the scaffolding I’m talking about. Holy crap. Never seen such safety precautions.

My parents are these people, my dad complains that in the 80's when they first moved to Coquitlam it took him 25 minutes to drive to work in Vancouver near QE park, and now it takes 50+ and up.

Well yeah dad, the population has increased several fold in that time? Not sure how he expects all those people to get around...

Yah ... this is how I feel ... like the style of the mall at the airport (McArthur Glen) and some of the outlet malls in Seattle area. Just pick a nice day, when it is rainy season, go to Metro or Costco :lol. Best of all worlds. I also try not to go to retail malls in general.

On Facebook community groups, that's all they complain about - traffic and new construction.

Definitely a lot of willful ignorance out there...

The Coquitlam community group is the worst, I joined when I first moved however left the group after a few months after getting nonstop bickering and complaining on my feed.

One of my hobbies include going to said groups, and calling them nimbys

Then they proceed to get upset and a FB war breaks out

My dad has always pointed this out to me.. Think of the average person, think about their education, think about their morals, think about their socioeconomic status, think about their common sense, etc...

Then realize that 50% of the population is below that average and when people do silly things, it really isn't that surprising.

His take is, don't let those people bug you and just be more positive.

The fact that you're involved in this real estate chat on an Internet forum already puts all of you above this average.

Real estate is probably the easiest vehicle to increase your net worth, second to that would be the stock market. So if you can't get your hands on real estate, I hope you're investing in the stock market. I'm hoping to see all of you in 20 years sitting pretty with either a nice equity gain in your real estate or in your stock portfolio.

Was your dad George Carlin, or did he just steal that from him lol

Haha, damn. Maybe he did. I'll have to ask him.

No. George Carlin stole it from peanutbutters dad.

Yeah this. I split my time between Toronto and Vancouver and I just visited Brentwood for the first time in forever. It looks so nice until you're actually there and find out it's actually a pretty shitty mall. It's not even worth the time navigating to the "outside" stores.

It's like everyone just goes there for the food court which isn't even anything special. 75% of the mall still looks unfinished and ghetto. I assume they plan to renovate the 1980s side of the mall at some point.

^ the division between the new part and the old is drastic. So you can only imagine the store owners in the old part will eventually want out. I don't know what the next phase plan is for that mall ... but it just highlights how dated it is.

In conclusion, we are just cranky old men who hate being outdoors lol.

Informative post from Reddit today. Breaks down the math.

^^^ but would someone think of the poor people, have to hand out affordable units at $700 a month. How's the new immigrants gonna work at super store and afford $1800 a month

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/inf...-may-1.6889725

And the solution will be to....raise interest rates? :heckno: