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Old 12-30-2023, 08:39 AM   #29351
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Listing a place that “has a garage” is much more appealing than “extra room for boxes and unused treadmill”
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$1.3m for a 2 bedroom duplex in East Van by King Ed and Knight. Seems way overpriced - probably more like a $1m or 1.1m place.

Check out the size of that garage:

For reference a Civic hatchback back is 180 in or 15 feet long so it wouldn't fit in there.
I don't quite get the appeal of a place like this, I'd much rather have a 2 BR condo for slightly less with a way more functional layout. Unless you're SO desperate for "detached"?
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They list it as a duplex, isn't it really just a glorified laneway house? Is it attached to the main house?
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Looking at the satellite view compared to the floor plan it's both? Someone built a laneway duplex. Where does anyone even park for either unit?

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How that does work? A lane way duplex? Never heard of that. That garage is so narrow can you even open your door. And 1,005 sqft $1,293 sq foot
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How that does work? A lane way duplex? Never heard of that. That garage is so narrow can you even open your door. And 1,005 sqft $1,293 sq foot
It’s called an infill house. Becoming more and more common.

You might have the main big home with 1 address and an obviously illegal basement suite, then you’ll have the “infill home” which is basically a duplex laneway home with 2 seperate legal addresses
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How that does work? A lane way duplex? Never heard of that. That garage is so narrow can you even open your door. And 1,005 sqft $1,293 sq foot
If you retain the original house on the lot (and usually restore it) then you get a density bonus that allows you build more house than you normally would. I've never seen it done as a duplex in the back though (it's a 6000sf lot).
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i'm familiar with garages that short, tbh i'm surprised there isn't some minimum?

in this example you lose at least a few inches width with the concrete sticking out but should be no worse than a typical stall

fine for subcompacts daily, pretty tight for compact vehicles, forget it for mid-sized or larger, obviously a crazy compromise for 1.3m

nice that it's furnaced
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It’s called an infill house. Becoming more and more common.

You might have the main big home with 1 address and an obviously illegal basement suite, then you’ll have the “infill home” which is basically a duplex laneway home with 2 seperate legal addresses
omg fuck vancouver city planning man. Why the fuck do i want 3 families living on a 4000sqft lot. Such bullshit.

If you're gonna do that kinda shit in neighbourhoods build more condos/townhouses. Leave god damn residential lots as residential please. Not mini strata's and parking wars.
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The only lots I’ve seen this on are like either double or 1.5 your typical Vancouver lot thus far. But I believe the zoning allows this on a typical lot now
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omg fuck vancouver city planning man. Why the fuck do i want 3 families living on a 4000sqft lot. Such bullshit.

If you're gonna do that kinda shit in neighbourhoods build more condos/townhouses. Leave god damn residential lots as residential please. Not mini strata's and parking wars.
I got news for you - all lots in the GVRD will be zoned for a minimum of 3, if not 4 units by middle of next year with the floor space ratio expected to be around 1.5 (about 2-3x higher than most current lots).

This specific lot is a bad example of how it'll play out but you can expect 3 story buildings as the norm from now on.
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^thats it. They gonna turn these nice little neighbourhoods into a dense urban dwellings that’ll look like shit. If you’re gonna densify at least just throw up condos / apartments as they have real parking. Not this bullshit where 3-4 families have to park 4-8
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^ NIMBY crowd right here lol

I'm just gonna move to Burnaby in the next 10 years and hold on to my 8000sqft land till I die. Then My kids can decide what they want to do with it whether they cash out or build.
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^ well if you talk to Gerbs, he'll say they should decide whether to cash out or build long before that. Start early enough and they'll build something cool like a giant ball pit!
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East van densification is the primary reason I moved out of there to begin with so of course NiMby
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How do you think this densification will play out? Do you think Vancouver will still somehow be the top place to live in the world due to the mountains? Or outdoors they say? Or do you think it will turn into some mismatched slum shacks with random housing built all over with no planning no parking no evs. We've already seen the math that it doesn't really math unless prices goes up more to build these multi units.

I don't really see this multi unit thing on one lot anywhere else in the world. It's usually detached or apartments.

What happened to tiny homes? Container homes or those prefab homes or bricks that you just lay?
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Big lots will become lucrative for developers will put pressure on municipalities to rezone so only a matter of time before Burnaby does the same.
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I don't know how burnaby or other cities will do it as a lot of the streets don't have back lanes. So no garage at all?
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How do you think this densification will play out? Do you think Vancouver will still somehow be the top place to live in the world due to the mountains? Or outdoors they say? Or do you think it will turn into some mismatched slum shacks with random housing built all over with no planning no parking no evs. We've already seen the math that it doesn't really math unless prices goes up more to build these multi units.

I don't really see this multi unit thing on one lot anywhere else in the world. It's usually detached or apartments.

What happened to tiny homes? Container homes or those prefab homes or bricks that you just lay?
If anything the prevalence of big single family homes is the anomaly here.

Look at Toronto etc. almost everything is a duplex. Basically 2-4 families living on what is equivalent to a regular Vancouver lot
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^ well if you talk to Gerbs, he'll say they should decide whether to cash out or build long before that. Start early enough and they'll build something cool like a giant ball pit!
My greatest mistake was not buying when I was 11 years old, better give that 8k lot to your kids while they're 7. That ball bit doesn't hit the same at 55.

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How do you think this densification will play out? Do you think Vancouver will still somehow be the top place to live in the world due to the mountains? Or outdoors they say? Or do you think it will turn into some mismatched slum shacks with random housing built all over with no planning no parking no evs. We've already seen the math that it doesn't really math unless prices goes up more to build these multi units.
Anyone else think that without densification, rent + housing prices will continue to rise YOY way above wage increases. This will drive a majority of the younger generation east or south. Plus we'll run into 10x more homeless and crime.
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^^ even with densification, prices won't come down, price going down = nothing will be built since the gov doesn't want to take the L on this and rely on the private market to build. Buddy guys don't build at losses
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