REVscene - Vancouver Automotive Forum


Welcome to the REVscene Automotive Forum forums.

Registration is Free!You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! The banners on the left side and below do not show for registered users!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.


Go Back   REVscene Automotive Forum > Automotive Chat > Vancouver Off-Topic / Current Events

Vancouver Off-Topic / Current Events The off-topic forum for Vancouver, funnies, non-auto centered discussions, WORK SAFE. While the rules are more relaxed here, there are still rules. Please refer to sticky thread in this forum.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 01-09-2024, 10:01 PM   #29601
I answer every Emotion with an emoticon
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: 604
Posts: 7,911
Thanked 4,367 Times in 2,102 Posts
Failed 296 Times in 140 Posts
4K channels on a 1080p TV is where it's at ... .
Advertisement
whitev70r is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2024, 10:41 PM   #29602
I have named my kids VIC and VLS
 
Hondaracer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 37,569
Thanked 14,961 Times in 5,966 Posts
Failed 2,061 Times in 690 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by donk. View Post
4k always gives me a chuckle

People buy 4k tvs, then run a non-premium netflix, disney, whatever capped at 1080.
Those that do buy 4k streaming plan, half those people wear glasses, or havent had their eyes checked in 4 years.

4k tv, 1080p streaming plan, 720p eye sight with glasses, 480p actual eye sight
A 4K TV always displays 4k resolution regardless of the native content, The TV’s processing capabilities to upscale an image can turn shitty SDR content into a beautiful image. Whether you can see it or not is one thing but high end TV’s ultimately look better across the board due to their better processing.
__________________
Dank memes cant melt steel beams
Hondaracer is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2024, 11:21 PM   #29603
RS.net, helping ugly ppl have sex since 2001
 
sonick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Revscene
Posts: 9,598
Thanked 7,615 Times in 2,551 Posts
Failed 434 Times in 126 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by donk. View Post
4k always gives me a chuckle

People buy 4k tvs, then run a non-premium netflix, disney, whatever capped at 1080.
Those that do buy 4k streaming plan, half those people wear glasses, or havent had their eyes checked in 4 years.

4k tv, 1080p streaming plan, 720p eye sight with glasses, 480p actual eye sight
Not me. I buy UHD 4k Blu rays for my fav movies and and download full bitrate 4k HDR dolby Atmos torrents whenever I can.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by skyxx View Post
Sonick is a genius. I won't go into detail what's so great about his post. But it's damn good!
2010 Toyota Rav4 Limited V6 - Wifey's Daily Driver
2009 BMW 128i - Daily Driver
2007 Toyota Rav4 Sport V6 - Sold
1999 Mazda Miata - Sold
2003 Mazda Protege5 - Sold
1987 BMW 325is - Sold
1990 Mazda Miata - Sold

100% Buy and Sell Feedback
sonick is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2024, 11:42 PM   #29604
I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
 
twitchyzero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Vancouver BC
Posts: 22,100
Thanked 9,864 Times in 3,922 Posts
Failed 881 Times in 421 Posts
got some of that private tracker invite?

im so annoyed at streaming services dropping off a cliff in terms of content quality, so thinking of going back (used to dl those 30-40GB bluray remuxes lol)
twitchyzero is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2024, 02:27 AM   #29605
I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
 
Spoon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: VAN/RMD/BBY
Posts: 2,596
Thanked 1,022 Times in 450 Posts
Failed 54 Times in 30 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by lilaznviper View Post
anyone living in the fraserview area?how is the area?
Lived in Fraserview for 10+ years around 10 years ago and I honestly hated the last bit of it. Seemed like everyone was running basement suites, which made parking at your front door practically impossible. Streets were super narrow, and I parked my car outside occassionally due to convenience, so had my fair share of hit and runs (one of which we caught LOL). But I guess that's what Vancouver living is like nowadays.

I'm happy to be back in Burnaby where the neighbourhood's quiet and detaches are relatively tenant free.
Spoon is offline   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 01-10-2024, 03:15 AM   #29606
Rs has made me the woman i am today!
 
EvoFire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 4,133
Thanked 2,976 Times in 1,368 Posts
Failed 58 Times in 33 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by lilaznviper View Post
anyone living in the fraserview area?how is the area?
thinking of moving because the neighbourhood i'm in currently is starting to get a lot of weirdo walking around.

we actually just had a person high af climb over the gates and onto the property screaming he was on fire and called 911 on himself. happened at 1 in the morning.
I'm in Fraserview right now and mostly as spoon says. I moved here two years ago and honestly I haven't been the happiest.

Fraserview has seen the least gains in terms of land value compared to the rest of east van. With the current city scape the idea that Fraserview is the nicer part of east van and commanding more money no longer holds any water as everything is overshadowed by the fact that east van close to DT and city center. The prices across east van have basically pulled even but you still hear or feel some elitism about living in Fraserview.

From here on out you'll probably see east van gaining roughly at the same pace, if not places like Refrew/Collingwood/Main street areas outpacing Fraserview. Parts of Main Street is already higher if you look at $/sqft I think.


I don't hate it here but I don't love it. But I got a plot of land in Vancouver, so I just wait until it's worth a bajillion dollars
EvoFire is offline   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 01-10-2024, 07:52 AM   #29607
RS.net, helping ugly ppl have sex since 2001
 
sonick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Revscene
Posts: 9,598
Thanked 7,615 Times in 2,551 Posts
Failed 434 Times in 126 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by twitchyzero View Post
got some of that private tracker invite?

im so annoyed at streaming services dropping off a cliff in terms of content quality, so thinking of going back (used to dl those 30-40GB bluray remuxes lol)
I just do pirate bay
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by skyxx View Post
Sonick is a genius. I won't go into detail what's so great about his post. But it's damn good!
2010 Toyota Rav4 Limited V6 - Wifey's Daily Driver
2009 BMW 128i - Daily Driver
2007 Toyota Rav4 Sport V6 - Sold
1999 Mazda Miata - Sold
2003 Mazda Protege5 - Sold
1987 BMW 325is - Sold
1990 Mazda Miata - Sold

100% Buy and Sell Feedback
sonick is online now   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 01-10-2024, 08:39 AM   #29608
RS.net, helping ugly ppl have sex since 2001
 
winson604's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Vansterdam
Posts: 8,078
Thanked 1,818 Times in 943 Posts
Failed 85 Times in 24 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by twitchyzero View Post
got some of that private tracker invite?

im so annoyed at streaming services dropping off a cliff in terms of content quality, so thinking of going back (used to dl those 30-40GB bluray remuxes lol)
I still do a bunch of private + stream. DM me
__________________
"back at the line to Babych.... LONG SHOT....Potvin had trouble with it....ADAM SHOOTS SCORES!!!!

GREG ADAMS!! GREG ADAMS!!"
winson604 is offline   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 01-10-2024, 10:39 AM   #29609
My homepage has been set to RS
 
PeanutButter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Burnaby
Posts: 2,431
Thanked 2,912 Times in 772 Posts
Failed 407 Times in 108 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by lilaznviper View Post
anyone living in the fraserview area?how is the area?
thinking of moving because the neighbourhood i'm in currently is starting to get a lot of weirdo walking around.

we actually just had a person high af climb over the gates and onto the property screaming he was on fire and called 911 on himself. happened at 1 in the morning.
My grandma lives in Fraserview. Like Badhobz said, it's the nicest area in East Van for sure. The standard lot is 50ft wide and when you walk around it's quiet and very esthetically pleasing.

I walk around with her a lot and it's a very good area, there are a good number of people who walk around that area for exercise. Surprisingly, after dinner to later in the evening there are regulars who walk around. We like walking around Bobolink park, it's very peaceful and there's always kids and families around there, it feels very safe.

There is this one white guy who looks like he's on something, he doesn't scream druggie, but you can tell he's on something, but he doesn't say anything and keeps to himself. We see him regularly walking. I think in any area there is a chance you'll get someone doing shady things if they're on drugs, hard to avoid that.
PeanutButter is offline   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 01-10-2024, 10:49 AM   #29610
I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 2,977
Thanked 2,802 Times in 1,205 Posts
Failed 61 Times in 23 Posts
When we're talking Fraserview do we mean the area around Champlain Mall or the area West of the golf course all the way to Victoria? The former seems pretty nice, the latter seems like it's in the middle of nowhere (though both kinda require you have cars which is not great IMO).
__________________
Current: 2019 Acura RDX
Gone: 2007 Acura TSX, 2008 Mazda 3 GT, 2003 Mazda Miata LS, 2008 Mazda Miata GT PRHT, 2003 Mazda Protege 5
supafamous is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2024, 10:52 AM   #29611
RS Veteran
 
bcrdukes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: GTA
Posts: 29,796
Thanked 11,447 Times in 4,683 Posts
Failed 436 Times in 279 Posts
oh noez white guy in the area call 911 pls bring the SWAT team asap
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by JDMDreams View Post
Do you identify as lesbian
Quote:
Originally Posted by GLOW View Post
based on my haircut, maybe
bcrdukes is online now   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 01-10-2024, 10:56 AM   #29612
linguistic ninja
 
CivicBlues's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 16,105
Thanked 3,793 Times in 1,380 Posts
Failed 141 Times in 80 Posts
Gonna go Treyvon Martin on his ass!
__________________
http://www.en.wikipedia.org

Still a card carrying member of the SFC :)
CivicBlues is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2024, 11:31 AM   #29613
Orgasm Donor & Alatar owned my ass twice!
 
Traum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Paradise, BC
Posts: 6,915
Thanked 6,646 Times in 2,677 Posts
Failed 253 Times in 139 Posts
Oh man... I can't believe you Killarney boys are dissing your old hood~! I was a Killarney boy myself, and I'd still say Fraserview is one of the nicest neighbourhoods in East Van.

Mind you -- technically, Fraserview has 41st as the northern border, Marine as the southern border, Victoria as the western border, and it only goes up to Vivian in the east. Between Vivian to Tyne is the Killarney area, and then from Tyne to Boundary is kind of the Champlain Heights area. For the most part, I'd say the area around Bobolink Park, around the golf course, and in the Killarney area are the best parts of the what people typically think of as "Fraserview".

As PeanutButter has said, I never feel unsafe in Fraserview. The area is quiet. There are hardly any weirdos around. The quietness and unassuming character might make it boring for some and I get that. To me, it is spacious and comfortable.

One interesting fact about Fraserview is -- the predominant non-English languish being spoken is Cantonese, and that speaks volumes about the demographics of the people that lives there. The markets and restaurants along Victoria reflect this fact, and there are lots of local gems spread all along the edge of Fraserview. It definitely meets my baked porkchop rice requirement too LOL~

One thing to watch out for in Fraserview is -- there are some areas that sit on peat / bogs / swamps -- the area outside of the Killarney Community Center is the most notable one, and I can't possible recommend anyone to buy in that vicinity. I posted this engineering drawing from the CoV back in 2018, but here it is again:

https://yourhometeam.com/assets/uplo...-vancouver.pdf

In some other versions of old peat / swamp maps, I've seen small patches between 54th to 41st that are not shown in the 2003 CoV map. So you wanna do your homework before plunging down your $3M for a home in the area.
Traum is online now   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 01-10-2024, 11:39 AM   #29614
RS.net, helping ugly ppl have sex since 2001
 
Badhobz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Ricemond
Posts: 9,048
Thanked 10,505 Times in 3,762 Posts
Failed 476 Times in 240 Posts
fraserview is the best. period.

As a guy who grew up around vic and hastings going to my friends house in fraserview was like going to the west side.

OMG you dont have hookers on the corner of elementry schools?
OMG you dont see people passed out drunk in front of 711 and on lok?
OMG you dont have to shoplift playboy/penthouse from londondrugs because you have a thing called money!?!??! FUCK YOU
Badhobz is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2024, 11:48 AM   #29615
RS.net, where our google ads make absolutely no sense!
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: GVA
Posts: 906
Thanked 337 Times in 123 Posts
Failed 36 Times in 2 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by twitchyzero View Post
got some of that private tracker invite?

im so annoyed at streaming services dropping off a cliff in terms of content quality, so thinking of going back (used to dl those 30-40GB bluray remuxes lol)
My friend you need to get on the Radarr + Sonarr bandwagon with a Plex server (Synology NASes work great for this). It's like your own streaming service.

I was able to justify the cost of the Synology anyways because family photos are "priceless" and backing up those is important, of course....
__________________
FEEDBACK 9-0-0
carsncars is offline   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 01-10-2024, 11:49 AM   #29616
I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
 
twitchyzero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Vancouver BC
Posts: 22,100
Thanked 9,864 Times in 3,922 Posts
Failed 881 Times in 421 Posts
it's the sleepy part of east van, some prefer a bit of character/vibrancy like mt pleasant
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spoon View Post
Lived in Fraserview for 10+ years around 10 years ago and I honestly hated the last bit of it. Seemed like everyone was running basement suites, which made parking at your front door practically impossible. Streets were super narrow, and I parked my car outside occassionally due to convenience, so had my fair share of hit and runs (one of which we caught LOL). But I guess that's what Vancouver living is like nowadays.

I'm happy to be back in Burnaby where the neighbourhood's quiet and detaches are relatively tenant free.
im sure that's coming to your hood in bby as well

Quote:
Originally Posted by carsncars View Post
My friend you need to get on the Radarr + Sonarr bandwagon with a Plex server (Synology NASes work great for this). It's like your own streaming service.

I was able to justify the cost of the Synology anyways because family photos are "priceless" and backing up those is important, of course....
got a dual-core qnap with nvme that i haven't touched in several years, time to look into this
twitchyzero is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2024, 11:53 AM   #29617
Rs has made me the woman i am today!
 
EvoFire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 4,133
Thanked 2,976 Times in 1,368 Posts
Failed 58 Times in 33 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Traum View Post
Oh man... I can't believe you Killarney boys are dissing your old hood~! I was a Killarney boy myself, and I'd still say Fraserview is one of the nicest neighbourhoods in East Van.

Mind you -- technically, Fraserview has 41st as the northern border, Marine as the southern border, Victoria as the western border, and it only goes up to Vivian in the east. Between Vivian to Tyne is the Killarney area, and then from Tyne to Boundary is kind of the Champlain Heights area. For the most part, I'd say the area around Bobolink Park, around the golf course, and in the Killarney area are the best parts of the what people typically think of as "Fraserview".

As PeanutButter has said, I never feel unsafe in Fraserview. The area is quiet. There are hardly any weirdos around. The quietness and unassuming character might make it boring for some and I get that. To me, it is spacious and comfortable.

One interesting fact about Fraserview is -- the predominant non-English languish being spoken is Cantonese, and that speaks volumes about the demographics of the people that lives there. The markets and restaurants along Victoria reflect this fact, and there are lots of local gems spread all along the edge of Fraserview. It definitely meets my baked porkchop rice requirement too LOL~

One thing to watch out for in Fraserview is -- there are some areas that sit on peat / bogs / swamps -- the area outside of the Killarney Community Center is the most notable one, and I can't possible recommend anyone to buy in that vicinity. I posted this engineering drawing from the CoV back in 2018, but here it is again:

https://yourhometeam.com/assets/uplo...-vancouver.pdf

In some other versions of old peat / swamp maps, I've seen small patches between 54th to 41st that are not shown in the 2003 CoV map. So you wanna do your homework before plunging down your $3M for a home in the area.
Killarney is bottom of the school rankings, it's all gone downhill

The realtors have expanded the whole "Fraserview/Killarney" area thing to their benefit and everyone's understanding is now a complete mess. There was a house for sale on Argyle, northwest of 49th/Victoria that they advertised as Killarney. I was like fuck off.

It's a nice area to live for sure, it'll also not change much until most of the older generation dies out and the properties slowly changes hands. But give it 10-15 years Fraserview might be completely unrecognizable because of the zoning changes. All those wide lots are going to become duplex/4plexes as the older generation move to old age homes or die. It's already slowly happening as half the new builds are duplexes.

That peat swamp bit explains why that area north and west of KCC is always a clusterfuck in terms of roads. We are talking about something like a 3 foot decline on the sidewalk right outside Weir. I was riding with my 3 yr old son and he was scared of that dip.
EvoFire is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2024, 11:54 AM   #29618
2013, 2016, 2017 & 2018 NHL Fantasy RS1 Champion
 
HonestTea's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 7,052
Thanked 1,286 Times in 594 Posts
Failed 65 Times in 37 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by carsncars View Post
My friend you need to get on the Radarr + Sonarr bandwagon with a Plex server (Synology NASes work great for this). It's like your own streaming service.

I was able to justify the cost of the Synology anyways because family photos are "priceless" and backing up those is important, of course....
Whats Radarr and Sonarr? Currently running a Plex server.
HonestTea is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2024, 11:57 AM   #29619
RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: /
Posts: 4,842
Thanked 2,554 Times in 977 Posts
Failed 253 Times in 72 Posts
According to y'all parameters, I grew up in Fraserview
__________________


2022 Velo N
2005 S2000
2007 CSX Type-S [Sold]
2002 RSX-S [T-Boned]
Gerbs is offline   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 01-10-2024, 11:58 AM   #29620
RS.net, where our google ads make absolutely no sense!
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: GVA
Posts: 906
Thanked 337 Times in 123 Posts
Failed 36 Times in 2 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by HonestTea View Post
Whats Radarr and Sonarr? Currently running a Plex server.
Sonarr will let you add TV shows you like and it will automatically grab them, rename/sort them, and add to your Plex library when new episodes are released. Radarr is the same but for movies.
__________________
FEEDBACK 9-0-0
carsncars is offline   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 01-10-2024, 01:17 PM   #29621
Rs has made me the woman i am today!
 
BIC_BAWS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: revscene
Posts: 4,215
Thanked 4,769 Times in 1,605 Posts
Failed 163 Times in 62 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by EvoFire View Post
Killarney is bottom of the school rankings, it's all gone downhill
Killarney was a good school? Back when I went to HS (not that long ago), Killarney is a heat bag / wanna be gangster school lol. Buncha nammers everywhere

Sent from my SM-G781W using Tapatalk
__________________
|| 18 FK8 | R-18692 | Rallye Red | 6 MT ||
|| SOLD 97 E36 M3 Sedan | Arctic Silver | 5MT ||
|| RIP 02 E46 330ci | Schwartz Black II | 5MT | M-Tech II | Black Cube | Shadowline | Stoff Laser/Anthrazit ||
|| RIP 02 E46 M3 | Carbon Black | 6MT ||
BIC_BAWS is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2024, 01:23 PM   #29622
RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Van
Posts: 4,587
Thanked 1,946 Times in 1,028 Posts
Failed 206 Times in 125 Posts
Yea Killarney and dt was just Chinese trying to be Vietnamese with their North face jackets at the bus stop in 30 degree weather while I had my AC on in my car.
JDMDreams is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2024, 01:33 PM   #29623
Orgasm Donor & Alatar owned my ass twice!
 
Traum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Paradise, BC
Posts: 6,915
Thanked 6,646 Times in 2,677 Posts
Failed 253 Times in 139 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by EvoFire View Post
Killarney is bottom of the school rankings, it's all gone downhill
I know! When I first found out about how it has turned into a Bronx school years ago, I was like WTF?! Back in my graduating year, it was right up there hanging with David Thompson and the West Side schools!

But on the schooling front, I am cautiously optimistic. In recent years, there has been a steady influx of HK Canadians returning to the area, and I am hearing a lot more Cantonese being spoken at school pick ups and at community center programs. Generally the parents from these types of families are more focused on academics, and offer more supervision over their kids, so I am 1/2 expecting and 1/2 hoping that things will turn around.
Traum is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2024, 01:39 PM   #29624
RS.net, helping ugly ppl have sex since 2001
 
winson604's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Vansterdam
Posts: 8,078
Thanked 1,818 Times in 943 Posts
Failed 85 Times in 24 Posts
Damn! Killarney is that bad haha that will be my kids catchment school, I'm going to assume DT probably isn't too much better.
__________________
"back at the line to Babych.... LONG SHOT....Potvin had trouble with it....ADAM SHOOTS SCORES!!!!

GREG ADAMS!! GREG ADAMS!!"
winson604 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2024, 01:41 PM   #29625
My homepage has been set to RS
 
PeanutButter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Burnaby
Posts: 2,431
Thanked 2,912 Times in 772 Posts
Failed 407 Times in 108 Posts
I was talking to a client today and their mom owns a 12 unit rental building in east van. Their father passed away last year and he was handling all the property management and rent payments. Now that responsibility has fallen onto the older sister whom I was speaking with.

She's pretty stressed. Anyway, her sister and brother want to sell the place as they want nothing to do with it and they don't want to help with the management of the building.

The entire building is paid off, but the average rent there is around $1,200.

I'm just wondering if I were in the situation, what would the options be. I would probably want to keep the building, which means paying out the two siblings. But the cashflow from the building is so low, if I refinanced to pay out the two siblings, I wouldn't be able to support the payments based on that low rent. Which, would make me think, who would buy a rental with such low rents, it wouldn't make sense financially.

She was super emotional telling me this, but I was also thinking, it's a pretty good problem to have. So my sympathy for her was muted.

What would you guys do?
PeanutButter is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:14 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Revscene.net cannot be held accountable for the actions of its members nor does the opinions of the members represent that of Revscene.net