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Old 03-19-2024, 09:34 AM   #30676
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I'm currently in the process of planning to build a LWH (with the new bylaws, I'm able to build ~1560sqft LWH in Vancouver) and I'm curious if anyone has had any experience with some of these builders:

https://www.bricklaneproperties.ca/
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The quotes I've received so far have been all over the place. Also looking for any tips regarding LWH construction... it's been quite daunting to say the least.
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I'm chatted with Bryn at Lanefab a few times and he's fairly well known in housing circles with a good rep - I was hoping that if I had gotten land to build on that I would have used him as I had interest in building it as a passive house. Bryn was also a consultant with the City of Burnaby in forming their laneway policy so he knows the ins and outs of laneways really well.

Smallworks also has a great rep in the community for their work and between them and Lanefab they are generally considered the experts in laneways - they know how to navigate the bureaucracy of building a laneway really well and also know how to get the most out of the design of a laneway.

If you're planning to live long term in the laneway (vs renting) then you can't go wrong with either of those two.
Well said, Supafamous summed it up pretty well.

I first approached Lanefab when I was looking into building my laneway home, Bryn was extremely thorough explaining the process. Unfortunately it was beyond my budget.

I tried giving Small works a shot, same ordeal, excellent in breaking down the details, but it was still out of my budget.

With a budget of $400,000, had to resort to a Chinese developer.

https://www.prosperoussquare.com/s-projects-basic

You can see some of the photos of my home there.

The over all build quality was you pay for what you get. In car terms, it looks decent from 10 feet away but once you get a closer look, it's an OCD nightmare.


When considering building your 1560sqft laneway house, try to future proof it as much as possible.

Building permits takes about 6 to 8 months.
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I was blown away by how much gas went up. When I left to Thailand a month ago, we were sitting at $1.60ish per liter.

I came back last week to $2.03 per liter. How did it jump 30ish cents in the span of a month? What economic reasoning? The carbon tax goes up a few cents starting April, what explains the rest?

"Summer blends"?

Like what in the actual fuck, I was blown away. If we're already hitting $2 in March, what will July look like?

This country is fucking bonkers.
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I'm surprised it took this long, $2 will be the norm soon before summer price hikes
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Old 03-19-2024, 12:48 PM   #30680
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This Province is bonkers for having the highest gas prices in Canada.
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I was blown away by how much gas went up. When I left to Thailand a month ago, we were sitting at $1.60ish per liter.

I came back last week to $2.03 per liter. How did it jump 30ish cents in the span of a month? What economic reasoning? The carbon tax goes up a few cents starting April, what explains the rest?

"Summer blends"?

Like what in the actual fuck, I was blown away. If we're already hitting $2 in March, what will July look like?

This country is fucking bonkers.
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Well it certainly is some sort of politicians fault when Ontario is 30-50 cents cheaper.
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Highest prices for really, almost anything here yet here we all are.
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Well it certainly is some sort of politicians fault when Ontario is 30-50 cents cheaper.
In terms of the actual amount of money you end up spending on gas though, I feel like the difference is much smaller than what the per litre gas price might suggest.

The thing is, in Toronto, you drive a LOT more -- further distances, longer time, etc. At the end of the day, Vancouver is geographically much smaller than the GTA. I obviously can't do an apple-to-apple comparison since I don't simultaneous live in both places. But that has always been the impression I had when I was living in Ontario.
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I wonder if EV has affected any of the O&G top line revenue or bottom line.

It appears it has not.
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In terms of the actual amount of money you end up spending on gas though, I feel like the difference is much smaller than what the per litre gas price might suggest.

The thing is, in Toronto, you drive a LOT more -- further distances, longer time, etc. At the end of the day, Vancouver is geographically much smaller than the GTA. I obviously can't do an apple-to-apple comparison since I don't simultaneous live in both places. But that has always been the impression I had when I was living in Ontario.
If you compare say Mississauga, Etobiboke or Scarborough to downtown Toronto, that's anywhere from say 15 - 30 kms. Roughly the same as Richmond or Port Moody to downtown, and everywhere in between.

Main difference with Toronto is the population is much higher, so traffic is that much worse, so you spend more time commuting the same distance. So yes, maybe you are using more gas, but sitting in traffic. At least that's how I saw it.
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didn't JT want to increase the carbon tax and everyone is pleading him to not do it?
if it goes through won't it increase gas prices even more?
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Well said, Supafamous summed it up pretty well.

I first approached Lanefab when I was looking into building my laneway home, Bryn was extremely thorough explaining the process. Unfortunately it was beyond my budget.

I tried giving Small works a shot, same ordeal, excellent in breaking down the details, but it was still out of my budget.

With a budget of $400,000, had to resort to a Chinese developer.

https://www.prosperoussquare.com/s-projects-basic

You can see some of the photos of my home there.

The over all build quality was you pay for what you get. In car terms, it looks decent from 10 feet away but once you get a closer look, it's an OCD nightmare.


When considering building your 1560sqft laneway house, try to future proof it as much as possible.

Building permits takes about 6 to 8 months.
Yeah LaneFab and Smallworks are the OG builders involved with the whole LWH push in the first place, they command a hefty price and people will pay it.
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didn't JT want to increase the carbon tax and everyone is pleading him to not do it?
if it goes through won't it increase gas prices even more?
I could totally be wrong about this, so I'd welcome RS to correct me if I am understanding the carbon tax wrong.

Assuming that my understanding is correct, the Canadian carbon tax is supposed to be revenue neutral. You pay the carbon tax on things that are deemed to pollute / has a carbon footprint, and you get that money back from carbon tax rebates. Turd and Libs are constantly saying that based on their estimates, 80% of Canadians receive more money from carbon tax rebates than the amount of carbon tax they pay.

This is exactly the reason why Eby recently called PeePee's anti-carbon tax rhetoric a baloney factory, because BC would receive less money from the feds if the carbon tax is scrapped.

I feel like most people who opposed to the carbon tax do so because they don't have any actual clue as to how it works. All they hear is the "tax" buzzword, and they automatically think it is bad. But of course you never hear them mention collecting the carbon tax rebate.
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You pay the carbon tax on things that are deemed to pollute / has a carbon footprint, and you get that money back from carbon tax rebates. Turd and Libs are constantly saying that based on their estimates, 80% of Canadians receive more money from carbon tax rebates than the amount of carbon tax they pay.
BC Climate action tax rebate has a threshold of $83,695 for a married couple. An ordinary couple (not even middle class by definition) would never get any of the rebate.
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Removing the carbon tax hill not make gas cheaper. gas companies will just pocket the difference. 14.31 cents is what we pay in carbon tax in BC. Even if they got rid of it the price of fuel would be more than what is was last month.

Oil/Gas companies in Canada are moved away from retail gas. Shell in the US is selling 1000 stations in the next 2 years. A lot of these gas stations are being bought by immigrants.
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But why have a tax in the first place, how many cra, bc gov paper pushers did you hire, have to pay, envelope, materials to print cheques, complaints, postage did you waste creating essentially something that does nothing. Bc carbon tax is separately from federal so it's also ndps fault on making this cash grab.

How about we create a hobo tax, then just give them money back every month like we already are with welfare

Where's my used car, house PST tax rebate, my alcohol tax rebate
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Additionally, it seems that people in BC are accustomed to enduring high gas prices without significant protest. Despite the frequent spikes in prices, there are no mass demonstrations, minimal shifts towards public transit, and few consequences for local politicians.
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Looking for some input on this situation please.

Lily bought a condo for $440,000
Lily put $70,000 down payment
Lily's mother added $20,000 for the down payment

Lily moved in with boyfriend (Mike) and is now common-law with him and has two children together.

Lily just sold the condo today for $749,000.

Lily and Mike refinanced and there is $521,000 currently left on the mortgage.

What would be a fair way to split the gains.

I was thinking $749,000-$521,000 = $228,000 left in cash.
Give Lily back $70,000 for down payment
Give back Lily's mom $20,000 for down payment

$228,000 - $70,000 - $20,000 = $138,000

Put $138,000 into Lily and Mike's Joint account.

Does that seem fair?


Lily likes my idea above, but Mike thinks all of the proceeds should be going into their joint account.
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But why have a tax in the first place, how many cra, bc gov paper pushers did you hire, have to pay, envelope, materials to print cheques, complaints, postage did you waste creating essentially something that does nothing. Bc carbon tax is separately from federal so it's also ndps fault on making this cash grab.

How about we create a hobo tax, then just give them money back every month like we already are with welfare

Where's my used car, house PST tax rebate, my alcohol tax rebate
Yea.. the question is.. why do you need a tax where “80% of people get money back” at all..

As per Harvey’s post above, I say quadruple the tax, doesn’t really affect me too much as we’ve cut our driving down to almost half of what it was 3 years ago. Maybe when people who spend all days in their cars commuting or driving their kids around can no longer afford to, somthing might happen.

The end result is always the same, less money in your pockets.

At this point how can anyone possibly believe anything Trudeau spews out
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Is this why both the Shell's in Blaine are now the green dinosaur?
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Looking for some input on this situation please.

Lily bought a condo for $440,000
Lily put $70,000 down payment
Lily's mother added $20,000 for the down payment

Lily moved in with boyfriend (Mike) and is now common-law with him and has two children together.

Lily just sold the condo today for $749,000.

Lily and Mike refinanced and there is $521,000 currently left on the mortgage.

What would be a fair way to split the gains.

I was thinking $749,000-$521,000 = $228,000 left in cash.
Give Lily back $70,000 for down payment
Give back Lily's mom $20,000 for down payment

$228,000 - $70,000 - $20,000 = $138,000

Put $138,000 into Lily and Mike's Joint account.

Does that seem fair?


Lily likes my idea above, but Mike thinks all of the proceeds should be going into their joint account.
Why do you always get involved in your clients'/friends affairs LOL

Aren't you a PT or in that field?
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Why do you always get involved in your clients'/friends affairs LOL

Aren't you a PT or in that field?
This one is actually a close friend. I'm known in my circle of friends as the finance/investment guy. For some strange reason, people think my opinion matters (they're crazy, I know). So people always come to for advice. It's my cross to bear... and in turn RS' cross to bear because I don't know what I'm doing half the time and need help. RS is my therapist, life coach, consigliere, etc.
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