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Hondaracer 08-20-2024 03:52 PM

One day when I go through them anyone is welcome to stuff I don’t want.

My setup is definitely not a purists dream but I think it’s pretty cool. I’ve got a turn table hooked into my Sonos amp which is hardwired into ceiling speakers

However, the Sonos amp works as a backbone component for my Plays, so I can wirelessly play vinyl throughout the entire house

Manic! 08-20-2024 05:24 PM

So wait you are taking a analog signal converting it to digital then converting it back to analog? Might as well just use spotify and skip the turntable.

Check out https://www.discogs.com/ for vinyl record prices. you can even sell on the site.

GS8 08-20-2024 06:58 PM

I've been eyeballing old Marantz 22xx or Sansui 9090 amps when I start working on my audio cave later this year. Not looking to get the best ($$$) but something that works good enough for me and well maintained.

And a karaoke machine to perform more Celine on :accepted:

Ulic Qel-Droma 08-20-2024 07:06 PM

vinyl... plus sonos...

disgusting.

jk.

not jk.

Hondaracer 08-20-2024 07:11 PM

The hardwired speakers in the living room via the amp input via RCA, so it’s an analog signal in the one room. If you want to get picky

Most people who would complain about it probably don’t have half the setup this one is anyways so not really too worried about it lol. Streaming the same audio throughout the house is great for parties etc. unless you have a complete hardwired system throughout like Westopher there isn’t really a better option currently. Even with all the shit Sonos is currently experiencing

Ulic Qel-Droma 08-20-2024 07:19 PM

Im joking.

I have two big ass 3 way speakers, tweeter, and horn mids...each with a 15 inch woofer, and then also a dual 21 inch subwoofer.

but I still airplay my music through Apple Music... through the receiver lol.

Ideally I would get two more 3 way speakers and set them up in tandem behind, to fake surround the music. and get another identical dual 21 inch sub to even out the bass... but the unit is huge and I don't really have the room... well the room isnt setup like that. If only I had a 600sq feet dedicated music room...

but truth be told I don't turn the sub on that often, cuz all the paintings on my walls go crooked and I'm pretty sure the entire building can feel it lol.

I'm not too big of an audiophile but I do like my clear deep bass... I really hate it when the low lows are substantially quieter.

I decided not to go the wireless route as... I feel like with actual wired speakers/subs... they can last a lifetime almost. where as with wireless setups... who knows in 10-15-20 years what's gonna happen. For me I can switch out my receiver to newer tech. But replacing entire speaker system cuz it went "obsolete" feels real bad lol... lol at people who bought HomePods that are now obsolete...

...I bought AirPods Max's :lol

Manic! 08-20-2024 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GS8 (Post 9146654)
I've been eyeballing old Marantz 22xx or Sansui 9090 amps when I start working on my audio cave later this year. Not looking to get the best ($$$) but something that works good enough for me and well maintained.

And a karaoke machine to perform more Celine on :accepted:

Forget the old stuff and just get an amp from someone like Fosi Audio for $150. Upgrade to a 48 volt PSU is you want more power.

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/f...-review.43751/

Hondaracer 08-20-2024 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ulic Qel-Droma (Post 9146659)
Im joking.

I have two big ass 3 way speakers, tweeter, and horn mids...each with a 15 inch woofer, and then also a dual 21 inch subwoofer.

but I still airplay my music through Apple Music... through the receiver lol.

Ideally I would get two more 3 way speakers and set them up in tandem behind, to fake surround the music. and get another identical dual 21 inch sub to even out the bass... but the unit is huge and I don't really have the room... well the room isnt setup like that. If only I had a 600sq feet dedicated music room...

but truth be told I don't turn the sub on that often, cuz all the paintings on my walls go crooked and I'm pretty sure the entire building can feel it lol.

I'm not too big of an audiophile but I do like my clear deep bass... I really hate it when the low lows are substantially quieter.

I decided not to go the wireless route as... I feel like with actual wired speakers/subs... they can last a lifetime almost. where as with wireless setups... who knows in 10-15-20 years what's gonna happen. For me I can switch out my receiver to newer tech. But replacing entire speaker system cuz it went "obsolete" feels real bad lol... lol at people who bought HomePods that are now obsolete...

...I bought AirPods Max's :lol

Yea.. Sonos is having some huge issues right now with connectivity. They updated their app and subsequently it seems like half their user base is now having major issues or their systems aren’t working at all.

They’ve also lost almost half their stock value and laid off 100 people in the 3 weeks or so this has played out. The risk you take with wireless equipment and such varried connectivity

sonick 08-20-2024 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GS8 (Post 9146654)
I've been eyeballing old Marantz 22xx or Sansui 9090 amps when I start working on my audio cave later this year. Not looking to get the best ($$$) but something that works good enough for me and well maintained.

And a karaoke machine to perform more Celine on :accepted:

Honestly you can get a top of the line 90s/2000s AVR for a few hundred dollars that will be more powerful and have better connectivity the the vintage stuff.

I have a Chromecast audio that can do 192/24 lossless via optical to the receiver total cost like $100.

roastpuff 08-20-2024 09:53 PM

The old analog amps sound better too. Same vs Fosi - Class A/B is warmer and richer sounding vs the Class D digital stuff.

sonick 08-20-2024 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roastpuff (Post 9146673)
The old analog amps sound better too. Same vs Fosi - Class A/B is warmer and richer sounding vs the Class D digital stuff.

90s/20s amps I refer to are all mostly analog class A or A/B. None are digital class D. Yet they still have modern DACs that can process 192,/24

Manic! 08-21-2024 12:33 AM

All amps sound the same. Why would you want something to change the sound of the original recording. Richard Clark had a 10K amp challenge and no one passed.

https://web.archive.org/web/20130716...tests/ampchall

roastpuff 08-21-2024 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonick (Post 9146676)
90s/20s amps I refer to are all mostly analog class A or A/B. None are digital class D. Yet they still have modern DACs that can process 192,/24

Ah, I see. I tend to not like AVRs and prefer separate pre-amp/amps if needed. I have a Cambridge Audio AXA25, and that's enough to power my Klipsch RB61s.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 9146677)
All amps sound the same. Why would you want something to change the sound of the original recording. Richard Clark had a 10K amp challenge and no one passed.

https://web.archive.org/web/20130716...tests/ampchall

All amps do not sound the same, if you A/B a setup you will be able to tell minor differences in the tone/timbre. Class A/B vs Class D, tube, etc. You're not changing the original sound of the recording, it's simply how the amp/speaker setup interacts with the music you like to listen to.

Eff-1 08-21-2024 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by westopher (Post 9146466)
Place is slowly getting setup. Ignore the camping chairs on the patio, and before anyone asks, no that's not a shock collar its a GPS tracker.
I greatly underestimated how much we needed to do to get all setup, but its coming along.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...269c1fd6_h.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...f335d540_h.jpg

I see you used frogboxes? Was it worth it? I am considering the same...

unit 08-21-2024 10:15 AM

i think the biggest benefit of renting boxes is that you have to give them back and not leave shit unpacked for like 6 months after you move lol

Hehe 08-21-2024 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eff-1 (Post 9146736)
I see you used frogboxes? Was it worth it? I am considering the same...

They are ok. I have used them before. But for the price and assuming you have space to store them, Costco storage boxes are about 12 dollars a pop.

Last thing, I’ll check CL or FB for free cardboard assuming you are ok with used boxes. I listed mine on CL when I last moved, which I got free from CL in the first place. Left them on the driveway and a guy came to pick them up.

EvoFire 08-21-2024 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 9146677)
All amps sound the same. Why would you want something to change the sound of the original recording. Richard Clark had a 10K amp challenge and no one passed.

https://web.archive.org/web/20130716...tests/ampchall

I can tell you they do not sound the same, especially if they have their own DAC built in.

unit 08-21-2024 10:58 AM

whenever i moved i used banana boxes. they are super sturdy, can be stacked even when heavy, have handles, and free if you ask the local produce market.

Manic! 08-21-2024 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvoFire (Post 9146745)
I can tell you they do not sound the same, especially if they have their own DAC built in.

So you have 2 amps that claim they are 100 watts x2. One is 100 watts peak times 2 so 50 watts rms and the other is under ratted and makes 120 watts x2.
They car going to sound different because one is louder. But if you set the volume to the same level they will sound the same. If it can't be measured it's not real. way to much snake oil in the audio world.

roastpuff 08-21-2024 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 9146762)
So you have 2 amps that claim they are 100 watts x2. One is 100 watts peak times 2 so 50 watts rms and the other is under ratted and makes 120 watts x2.
They car going to sound different because one is louder. But if you set the volume to the same level they will sound the same. If it can't be measured it's not real. way to much snake oil in the audio world.

If that's the analogy then you can say that you have two cars, 500hp and 1000hp, if you drive at 80kph they're both the same no?

EvoFire 08-21-2024 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 9146762)
So you have 2 amps that claim they are 100 watts x2. One is 100 watts peak times 2 so 50 watts rms and the other is under ratted and makes 120 watts x2.
They car going to sound different because one is louder. But if you set the volume to the same level they will sound the same. If it can't be measured it's not real. way to much snake oil in the audio world.

Quote:

Originally Posted by roastpuff (Post 9146766)
If that's the analogy then you can say that you have two cars, 500hp and 1000hp, if you drive at 80kph they're both the same no?

I'll one up you better on that one.

Tell me a 500hp R8 drives the same as a 500hp M3. That's what you are saying right now.

Both amps does 1000w, but they will "sound the same".

I suppose if you only care about acceleration, but even then it would be different.

Gerbs 08-21-2024 12:51 PM

Dumb Q, but is there any new areas you guys were looking at for a RE Investment property in Canada?

Previously looked at Calgary, friends bought in, did well in 2023 purchase prices. But other than that picking seems slim.

Mostly doing VEQT and Chill but I have enough to DP for around a $200-800K place, but seems like everything sucks.

JDMDreams 08-21-2024 01:44 PM

I think investment party is dead, maybe further out in Alberta? Given the new tenancy rule crap it just doesn't seem worth the hassle, unless you have a place that you can still air BNB, + current % doesn't help. Unless you bought a presale and still some how locked in a lower price, but rates still high.

westopher 08-21-2024 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eff-1 (Post 9146736)
I see you used frogboxes? Was it worth it? I am considering the same...

These were called gorilla boxes. Basically the same deal but they were cheaper.
They were well worth it, but don't do what I did.
Consider how heavy you are gonna make each lift. A bin full of comforters and a bin full of cookbooks was a bad call lol.
They aren't big enough to fit larger stuff in it but that's probably a helpful way of not making things way too heavy. I'd use them again for sure, and customer service has been really good and flexible.

Manic! 08-21-2024 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvoFire (Post 9146768)
I'll one up you better on that one.

Tell me a 500hp R8 drives the same as a 500hp M3. That's what you are saying right now.

Both amps does 1000w, but they will "sound the same".

I suppose if you only care about acceleration, but even then it would be different.

The cars can be measured at a track with a stop watch. Can the differences in sound quality of two amps be measured? Richard Clark tested tons of people who thought they could tell the difference and they all failed.


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