I have leveled up none of these trees

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Why you have to be so mad?

Work harder is very general. Doesn't mean flip burgers faster or type faster.

What I am trying to get at is, young kids now a days expect things to fall in their lap. They don't go out and find opportunity or go create something for themselves. How many of you know people with degrees thats in the closet collecting dust?

Using your example, that 10 year old kid studying his ass off. Yes he is studying hard. What is the result of that though? Good grades? Yes, cool you got good fucking grades. But what is happening to society is that these kids studying their fucking ass off expect something far greater than what is deserved.

Sounds like a bunch of excuses to be honest.

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I'm doing just fine. I just appreciate the people that helped along the way because I'm not an arrogant fuck. I also understand there are plenty of people busting their asses harder than I am and get less due to circumstance.
Trust me, you aren't fucking special.

I've never met anyone who built their own business from the ground up who who didn't put YEARS of 12-15 hour days in, no vacations, no weekends, etc

I'd say generally speaking the work harder thing is true to become a true success. "Financial success" at least.

Even for people who are struggling at the bottom, if you aren't willing to work weekends, OT, etc you don't really have a right to complain about your situation. Even if it means more money for groceries etc. it's progress.

The adage of "no one ever got rich working 9-5" has been preached to me by a few different people I respect very well. In the end I just don't know if I have the personal drive to take it to the next level. At some point you become content with where you are and the life you have.

Agree 100% working 9 to 5 won't get rich but is also a relax lifestyle. You leave work with no stress go home, enjoy cooking a meal, relax on the couch, watch hockey, on weekends go out movies, stanely park, skiing in the winters.

Ppl who got rich hardly have enough time to sleep let alone relax enjoy life. Is not for everyone. You get off work after 10 to 12 hours work day. Go out in the evenings to network and push your company, your name out there. Then you still have to go home prepare lunch and follow the news depending on the career path you might read about econ, finanical, trades, stocks, tech etc etc......

I don't think I am the type who can climb up the ladder. Is not for everyone, you have to have the personal drive and also train when you are at a young age. Having just personal drive and will is not enough is also your personality and how you are brought up. So I happy doing my 9 to 5 and doing OT when I can. I am not the type with tons of personal drive and to be honest I lack the personality to be successful at the top.

Didn't say I was special. And didn't ask you how your life is.
Don't get your panties in a knot.

I am just saying hard work and consistency will bring you places and the young kids these days don't have that drive.

Mehhhhh virtually every generation tends to have the perception that the "next" generation is lazy, fucked, etc. Historically speaking, even Socrates was quoted as stating the next generation was spoiled and useless.

15 Historical Complaints About Young People Ruining Everything | Mental Floss

If you feel the next generation is lazy and useless it's probably because of your exposure to people younger than you in a specific capacity (IE: Fast Food Workers). I could tell you that many of the early 20's engineers at my work make me look like a lazy and incompetent idiot... they are however, for the most part, some of the smartest people graduating engineering at the U of A.

Life takes all sorts of people, if everyone was a keener it would just be that much harder for you to be successful, by your definition of success anyway.

if one cannot afford to buy....step aside please and let people with money buy. So simple it hurts.

I agree
They can head out past Hope BC and get a house and job and even have beer money on the weekend.
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Helping Your Child Buy Their First Home - River District - Vancouver

Just a heads up guys
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Lol, so you've interviewed all the "young kids these days" ...?

Just because the young people in your particular circle are lazy and entitled, it doesn't mean everyone is. And partly, you're right - there are plenty of people my age who have no drive, no motivation and expect everything to just come together when we live in an economy where it likely will not (unless you have wealthy parents or are working a very decent job).

My point is that the fact that people making $40-50,000 a year can't afford a home near their area of work. You may not care about these "poor people" but at the end of the day, that salary bracket is almost double the national average. You may not think you need these people around - for whatever elitist reason you may have - but in reality, these people probably work in the service sector and drive the economy. They aren't "freeloaders" or "gaming the system". The reality is, you can work as hard as you want, but unless you're making nearly triple or quadruple the national average, owning a home in the Lower Mainland will be a pipe dream. The idea of an "average income" being one that enables one to have an "okay" quality of life.

Considering the fact that many companies do not want to establish themselves in Vancouver for the simple fact that everyone smart enough to get a "decent job" knows they can have a better quality of living elsewhere (aka brain drain). I have friend studying to become doctors or lawyers that are planning to move East once they get their degrees because their "hard work" barely cuts it in Vancouver. If the current trends continue Vancouver will be nothing more than a playground for the wealthy...

What exactly is the problem with that? I'd love for Vancouver to be like that personally. The successful people will find ways to make money off the wealthy while everyone else will bitch about housing prices.. It's basically the same right now

If you don't understand how even wealthy people need support of all kinds from numerous other people, you will never understand why the wealthy playground thing is a bad idea -- a very, very bad idea.

A balanced society is one where the wealth distribution curve pretty much shows up like a bell curve. Skewing to the left is bad because it means most people are poor, and wealth is controlled in the hands of a few people. Skewing to the right is impossible. And an M-shaped distribution is bad news for the government because the poor will keep asking for money, but the rich will find loopholes to avoid funding the government (and you have no middle class to take on that burden).

People bagging groceries and making coffee don't need to live next to their Starbucks downtown.

From surrey central, Langley, etc even to commute downtown is only 30-40 minutes

Working downtown at a few towers I knew electricians and even fucking labourers commuting in from yarrow and chiliwack.

Ya do what ya gotta do. There are options available for everyone. A friend of mines brother is renting a 800sq foot basement suite in fleetwood for $650 a month. Is that unreasonable or unacceptable for someone on the lower end of the income scale?

Someone making 20-40k a year couldn't even buy a 150k place if they have no savings skills.

Because the middle class will be wiped out. On a national level, strong countries are countries with a large middle class. You shrink the middle class, you eventually become a 3rd world country. That's what they are scared about in the states.

Also, before the '08 depression, you see how China, India, Brazil, Indonesia being darlings of the world. Why ? Because of their growing middle class.

True, one of my buddies also isn't as fortunate as others. He's super smart and hard working, but he came from a poorer family, got into an accident where he had health problems.

Because of he has to take care of his poorer family as well as his personal health reasons, his career and business got side-tracked. he's just doing okay, instead of being well off. Shit happens man.

Then again, maybe if he was a silver spoon kid, he wouldn't be so kind and hard working since his parents money and connection would have helped him out, and he would have said he did all himself and "works hard".

Life isn't as black and white sometimes.

Those aren't people making even close to 40k a year. Try 25k.
Regardless. People who make 40k can't afford it here, and that kind of sucks.
People who make 60k can't really afford it here, and thats where it gets ridiculous.

^^ QFT, esp that 2nd and 3rd line. :tears:

Who are Canada's top 1%? - Canada - CBC News

its not that much to be the 1% in Canada.

The average is 383k, so you need to look at that instead of the minimum.

Yup the 383k to be 1% is not much at all.

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Thanks for opening up my eyes. Never thought of it that way.

I don't know if I'm being unclear. I'm not complaining.
There are lots of people who's careers aren't where they want to be for reasons more than "they don't work hard."
Generalizing an entire generation about being lazy when wages have increased about 10-20% in the same amount of time houses have increased 500% would lead me to believe there are other factors keeping people out of the market over pure laziness.