Rennie ppl already wrote and spoken for most of it. If you didn't write today or tmrw wait for rescission.

Most ppl got 1 out of 10 requests. Burquitlam or anything near Skytrain has been exploding as of late. 1BR under $400k is like scoring Jordan 11's (insert your favourite shoe) on Footlocker launch date.

question, at what point would I be entitled to have the developer to replace the countertops if I find that they were chipped during inspection?

Just recently done my inspection for my unit and like that video found some serious flaws with regards to finishing and materials; granite countertops and cabinets were chipped, holes on walls, and a pretty dinged up washer and dryer...

The counter top has a chip the size of a penny on one of its edges, I straight out asked them to replace it but I doubt I would...

Reddit identified it, it's Telus Gardens. Developer Westbank.

Saying the same thing 6 times in different ways doesn't actually add to your argument.

I'm not denying that there are retards in the 20-30's range that complain without doing shit. Those people annoy me too, and I have little sympathy for them.

But to group EVERYONE with legitimate complaints about the absurd housing prices as being lazy and entitled, is both ignorant and arrogant.

What if your parents didn't let you live rent free? Nope, apparently that's still your fault, should'a worked harder. Got student loans because you too wanted to be like Sean Cooper? Welp, better get on that 80-hour workweek train fast! Can't get a job because they require experience? Too bad! Should've worked harder!:rukidding:

:heckno::heckno::heckno:

Can we get a list of bad developer's like this?

1.Westbank

I was just thinking I bid a lot of towers and I don't remember bidding anything for Westbank, first thing this morning I start taking off a new tower and look at the developer.........Westbank. :troll:

All of that should be replaced. Do not sign off on anything until it is.

At my former company we replaced entire island counter slabs because they had a slight dark blemish on them we could not get rid of. We've replaced doors and cabinets, gable ends etc. because they have scratches you only see at some angles.

That is on their quality systems, not you to accept. They either installed the counter already chipped, or they did not cover it during the remaining construction and it sustained damage during time.

Tell them that they should be on the hook for their processes and the damage obviously occurred at some point during construction (not that it really mattered when it happened, it's there.)

completely unacceptable to even show the unit in that state if they did not bring it up to you on their own rather than you finding it imo

Little off topic question for hondaracer, but when an entire island counter slab is replaced, what did your former company do with the old slab reuse else where sell it at discount?

the supplier would take it and probably try to reinstall it for another customer who wasnt as anal as we were..

most counter top suppliers are pretty shady

Good Luck

:alone:

And if you are one of the many people i saw doing there walk through at the dawson and willingdon low rise i wish you even more luck

With all of the new multi-family these days, you have to assume it's all crap. The only way to get finishing up to the standard you want is to hound the warranty provider and the developer after the fact. Whatever you do, make sure you submit everything in writing before the warranty period is up.

Again, this is another reason to buy pre-owned. Let the first owner deal with all of the deficiencies.

warantee provider isnt going to address the finishing levels unless if effects functionality i believe

I was able to get walls repainted that were poorly painted.

But maybe things have changed over the last decade.

I think it all depends on the developer

Some of the shit you notice in new builds really makes you wonder. I was looking at a townhouse and the door to the powder room would hit the counter when you opened it all the way, so it really only opened 3/4.

So what happens when you have a pre-sale and the developer won't fix some of the shit you want fixed?

Just like many things in pre-sale.

You're SOL.

just never sign off on it.

The best position you have is if you are living with parents, etc. where you're not pressured to move in to your new unit you just never complete/move in until the problems are addressed.

Moving in is almost the same as signing off on the unit. It's a sad state that developers dont address the situation because bigger developers have so many people under their employ that strictly deal with deficiencies. However, their quality systems obviously fail them when people are moving in with chips in counters etc.

When we did our walk throughs, we would actually pre-emptively mark stuff off we saw as a sign of good will towards the home owner, sometimes it would work well because people would see this as a good faith gesture, other times people would go insane marking every single little thing.

Peeps moving into a new unit, pay me $50 an hour and i'll be your new 'friend' for your walkthrough lol

My buddy is a higher up at one of the large developers and he tells me that the issue is with a lack of skilled sub contractors. You have hundreds of people working on these mdu buildings and you have a 1 in 4 chance of getting a major defiency. You may have a great plumber working on your unit, but chances are that you will have shoddy tile work. Or you may get a finisher that really cares, but your electrician is an alcoholic. He even says that for what people are paying that the place should be perfect, and he does his best to ensure that the units are of the highest quality. But there are things they can't control, or figure out too late and that's where you have problems.

He admits that he wouldn't pay the price that these units are going for. The quality just isn't there, and chances are we're up for another "leaky condo" tragedy like we did during the last big building boom. That could be what hurts the market more than anything.

I'm waiting on the 4th floor of a building on main just south of terminal and a skinny guy walked past me. The whole floor moved as he walked past!! Aren't these concrete builds!?

To think, these are marketed to be a high end buildings.

FML!

Yes. Don't sign off until you're satisfied. That's your only leverage.

I think nowadays, it's worth paying a home inspector to assist you in your walk through. Unless you have a trained eye and search every nook and cranny of a unit, you won't catch everything.

I personally wouldn't count on someone from the developer to really nitpick things.

A lot of the issues the general contractors are getting from subcontractors are caused by the schedules there putting out now a days. The shift we've seen is somewhat alarming, they are taking projects that you used to get a year to do and demanding they be done in 6 months. When you're working at that pace it leads to nothing but headaches and problems. They might have a nice schedule when the project comes into conception but it gets behind for this that or the other and the end date never changes.

Case and point, we're doing a high end mid rise in West Vancouver right now, it was originally a 12 month schedule for our scope we were 5 months late getting started due to no fault of our own but we're still expected to turn everything over in December. The exact same thing happened on the last two towers we did in Richmond. Instead of running 60 guys on a job in a controlled fashion you now have 110, many of which are useless but you have no choice because if you don't provide bodies you get put on notice and they bring in other companies and back charge the shit out of you. It's lose lose for everyone involved.

Problem is, most of problems this guy has aren't obvious during inspection.
No way, he signed up off on it, if had he noticed these problems during initial inspection.

what kind of problems?

Those exact scheduling problems are why i got out of construction.

We were a smaller company mainly building townhouses but i'd bust my ass, work saturdays, OT, stress the fuck out over aligning work, trades etc. to meet a schedule thats been pushed forward once, twice, three times since the beginning.

Once we began turning over units we'd almost always have 2/3/4 weeks cut out of our finishing schedule and would have to find a way to make up that time again..

I'm at a position financially now where it wasnt worth the stress and toll it was taking on me any longer, i've changed careers over the last 6 months and it's honestly like a breathe of fresh air being in this new industry and the attitude within it.

I hear you, it can be frustrating I'm just glad the scheduling stress isn't really mine to bare but I do feel bad for our foreman and my bosses. Don't get me wrong it's not like I don't have stresses there just different, meeting tight deadlines or missing something on an estimate and costing my company a bunch of money. The biggest stress I have right now is not being able to find anyone qualified to help me out, we've been looking for months with zero success.