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twitchyzero 03-15-2021 01:18 PM

i dont think many on the east side are expecting to really be away from neighbours and with a large driveway...that's what Agassiz is for

the appeal would be not paying strata and not having every other local restaurant get replaced by insurance brokers

supafamous 03-16-2021 06:08 AM

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-...ving-city-hall

Vancouver's Director of Planning quits/fired after 4.5 years. It's a brutal job being the Director of Planning here - the bureaucracy doesn't want to change, city council says they want a grand vision but has no backbone, and we're one of the worst NIMBY cities in the world (next to SF).

I don't know if he was doing a good job or not as there were wins (more rental housing, city wide duplex rezoning) and losses (ridiculous permit process and little change in affordability). At the very least the lack of a central leader is bad - we need someone who can sell a grand vision to the citizens and has the skill to push through drastic changes if we're going to keep Vancouver liveable while increasing density and improving affordability.

bcedhk 03-16-2021 07:41 AM

I don't think he actually stepped down willingly.

Liquid_o2 03-16-2021 12:05 PM

Kaye Krishna was General Manager of development services, buildings and licensing between 2016 and 2019 and her primarily responsibility was to streamline the permitting and licensing process. Then she left in 2019 to work for the Province. Did she actually accomplish anything in those 3 years? I'm not sure since the permitting and licensing process still sounds like it is a major problem.

I agree that the institution and regulatory environment that the City of Vancouver has negates vision or innovative practices. I work in planning and development (private sector), and the CoV is not easy to deal with by any means. They also have a lot of churn in staffing from what I hear, not sure if it is true.

twitchyzero 03-16-2021 12:18 PM

i want them to explore further the sixplexes the mayor wanted to do a pilot on if they can figure out parking/congestion

npa shut it down though

bcedhk 03-16-2021 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Liquid_o2 (Post 9020963)
Kaye Krishna was General Manager of development services, buildings and licensing between 2016 and 2019 and her primarily responsibility was to streamline the permitting and licensing process. Then she left in 2019 to work for the Province. Did she actually accomplish anything in those 3 years? I'm not sure since the permitting and licensing process still sounds like it is a major problem.

I agree that the institution and regulatory environment that the City of Vancouver has negates vision or innovative practices. I work in planning and development (private sector), and the CoV is not easy to deal with by any means. They also have a lot of churn in staffing from what I hear, not sure if it is true.


This clip is pretty relatable to how CoV's Council perform in the past decade.

City staff are weighed down by the legislative requirements, NIMBYs and Council. 8 out of 10 innovations will get shot down by the time it goes to Council and then out of those, only a small percentage will be bound for failure due to a change in council or from budget cuts.

GGnoRE 03-16-2021 05:24 PM

https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b...?itok=WXSjXKJG

Here's a fun chart, data basically confirming that Canadian real estate is in a parabolic price growth that's accelerating faster than what we've seen in 2016/17. Factors driving growth according to BMO:

- Employment in higher-paying industries recovered swiftly, supporting incomes among potential homebuyers.
- Mortgage rates plumbed record lows and, while they’re backing up now, they're still below pre-COVID levels, while many buyers are likely still on pre-approvals with rates locked in.
- There’s has been a dramatic shift in preferences toward more space, further outside major urban centres (commuting requirements are down, and probably assumed to remain down).
- Limited travel has created historic demand for second (recreational) properties, and households have equity in existing properties to tap.
- Younger households are likely pulling forward moves that would have otherwise happened in the years ahead.
- There has to be some FOMO and speculative activity in the market at this point (which is, unfortunately, tough to show with hard data until after the fact).

Hondaracer 03-16-2021 05:43 PM

Yea rec properties are crazy

mr00jimbo 03-16-2021 05:55 PM

I paid 15k over asking for my condo one year ago. My realtor thinks they priced it low to drum up interest and it worked. Now my neighbour across the hall has her place, which is the exact same layout as mine, listed for 93 thousand above what i paid and people are going to see it like mad.

Teriyaki 03-16-2021 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mr00jimbo (Post 9020998)
I paid 15k over asking for my condo one year ago. My realtor thinks they priced it low to drum up interest and it worked. Now my neighbour across the hall has her place, which is the exact same layout as mine, listed for 93 thousand above what i paid and people are going to see it like mad.

Congrats on making 100k in a year:pokerface:

JDMDreams 03-16-2021 06:41 PM

^ that's chump change lol isn't detached like $500 over asking:accepted:

twitchyzero 03-16-2021 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GGnoRE (Post 9020995)
- Younger households are likely pulling forward moves that would have otherwise happened in the years ahead.

in what ways? by having pandemic babies?

mr00jimbo 03-16-2021 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Teriyaki (Post 9021001)
Congrats on making 100k in a year:pokerface:

lol less real estate fees, less bidding war on a new place, less closing costs and property transfer tax and moving fees and all the aggravation. Unless I decided to rent again or move far, far away it ain't doing shit for me.

westopher 03-16-2021 07:08 PM

I made 100k!
Oh what do you mean the upgrade costs me 200k more than it would have last year? Guess I lost 100k

carsncars 03-16-2021 09:17 PM

Zealty seems to be down. Hopefully temporarily...

EDIT: Per Twitter they expect to be back soon: https://twitter.com/ZealtySearch/sta...804418049?s=20

https://i.imgur.com/f0PA63U.png

supafamous 03-17-2021 08:16 AM

https://twitter.com/RampCapitalLLC/s...502549508?s=20

Found some real estate that will go up as fast as Vancouver real estate.

TOS'd 03-17-2021 09:23 AM

Second Life? lol

supafamous 03-19-2021 06:42 PM

https://www.rew.ca/properties/318124...erty_click=map

Just got outbid on this pile of dirt. Sold for $1.655m (I bid $1.56m). Couldn't get access to see it and there weren't even pictures till yesterday afternoon so it's gotta be all developers bidding on it.

twitchyzero 03-19-2021 06:52 PM

3d google maps and drive by
dont need pics if you're gonna demo it

windsor is a fairly narrow street, i bike on it often

Special K 03-19-2021 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by supafamous (Post 9021363)
https://www.rew.ca/properties/318124...erty_click=map

Just got outbid on this pile of dirt. Sold for $1.655m (I bid $1.56m). Couldn't get access to see it and there weren't even pictures till yesterday afternoon so it's gotta be all developers bidding on it.

Wow the land is sold for $1.6m + $800k-$1m to build. We looking at a $3m flip in South Vancouver?:pokerface:

supafamous 03-20-2021 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Special K (Post 9021381)
Wow the land is sold for $1.6m + $800k-$1m to build. We looking at a $3m flip in South Vancouver?:pokerface:

Sketchy builders (like the one who built my duplex) can build for about $700-750k and they expect to make a 10-15% profit so they're expecting it to sell for at least $2.75m or so but yeah, don't be surprised if it goes for $3m when it's done in 18 months.

Teardown lots are now selling for as much as liveable houses so the profit must be there for these builders.

underscore 03-20-2021 07:14 AM

People are doing the same with bare lots here, asking double the assessed value and nearly as much as what the houses next to them are worth. A lot of them are just trying to flip them too, you can see in the sales history they bought it a couple months ago for what it's actually worth or sometimes a little under.

68style 03-20-2021 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Special K (Post 9021381)
Wow the land is sold for $1.6m + $800k-$1m to build. We looking at a $3m flip in South Vancouver?:pokerface:

I would be thinking the same thing, until I watched my parents neighborhood in Richmond transform before my own eyes, 6 different 1970’s houses on their block have sold for 1.2-1.4 in the last year and 5/6 of them got torn down and turned into a mansion and sold for anywhere from 2.5-2.8.

If it can be done in Richmond it most certainly can for 3+ in south Vancouver.

Great68 03-20-2021 11:12 AM

What I find crazy about Richmond is seeing those lot filling McMansions that replaced the old bungalows in the 90's now get torn down for new rowhouses. You can see this on Williams across from McRoberts/South Arm. Like, those weren't cheap houses when they were built, torn down in under 30 years.

jing 03-20-2021 11:51 AM

I was working up in Powell River recently and even there the residents are complaining about houses going for over ask. On a $500k property, very typical to see offers between $30-50k over.


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