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if that were true, then the loopers that closed their own loops would cease to exist as well
If you kill your future self, you haven't harmed yourself in the present. If you harm your current/past self it'll harm you and the future self. Remember the scene where he's carving stuff into his arm? Or remember the scene near the beginning where his fellow looper friend doesn't close his loop, and his loop runs, and how they catch him?
If you kill your future self, you haven't harmed yourself in the present. If you harm your current/past self it'll harm you and the future self. Remember the scene where he's carving stuff into his arm? Or remember the scene near the beginning where his fellow looper friend doesn't close his loop, and his loop runs, and how they catch him?
I'm not sure where you're going with this, but I hope you realize that you are really just reiterating my point.
Watched it tonight at the cheap theater. Loved it. Very well done, great twist ending.
As to why they have loopers off themselves to close their loop, I believe they covered that:
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Joe mentions right off that it's not really a career for the "forward thinking individuals" - they know when they off themselves, they get a huge payout and get to live the next 30 years in ballin' fun. Really, "kill tweakers from the future" isn't much of a sales pitch on its own, but knowing that at some point you get bought out and get to spend the rest of your life partying it up is a major perk.
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Looper 6/10 ~ wasn't horrible, kind of silly especially the target; JGL did a good job acting like Bruce Willis with the facial expressions and mannerisms; could have been a lot better imo
i'd like to know why the rainman wants to close all the loops....then who would do the killing?
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Because when he was a child bruce willis the looper shot and killed the mother and like peter parker with great power comes great responsibility. He vowed to himself when he grew up to kill all loopers. Remember how joseph gordon levitt (young bruce willis) had that epiphany? How the boy was on a train all by himself. Probably growing up as a hater? The timeline all changed when old bruce willis came back making the new time all plausable. What old bruce willis didnt know, was why the rainman was doing what he was doing. It was because of him. joseph gordon levitt Changed all of this by commiting suicide.
Watched it tonight at the cheap theater. Loved it. Very well done, great twist ending.
As to why they have loopers off themselves to close their loop, I believe they covered that:
Spoiler!
Joe mentions right off that it's not really a career for the "forward thinking individuals" - they know when they off themselves, they get a huge payout and get to live the next 30 years in ballin' fun. Really, "kill tweakers from the future" isn't much of a sales pitch on its own, but knowing that at some point you get bought out and get to spend the rest of your life partying it up is a major perk.
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Btw saying there is a "twist ending" is a major spoiler. Of any movie.
Because when he was a child bruce willis the looper shot and killed the mother and like peter parker with great power comes great responsibility. He vowed to himself when he grew up to kill all loopers. Remember how joseph gordon levitt (young bruce willis) had that epiphany? How the boy was on a train all by himself. Probably growing up as a hater? The timeline all changed when old bruce willis came back making the new time all plausable. What old bruce willis didnt know, was why the rainman was doing what he was doing. It was because of him. joseph gordon levitt Changed all of this by commiting suicide.
This is what makes no sense. I think it's a giant plot hole and ruins the movie for me.
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The events that happened after Joseph Gordon Levitt didn't kill Bruce Willis never happened in young Bruce's timeline because young Bruce killed his older self right away. Then he went to China and met the chick, etc.
They implied that that the kid became the rainmaker when he saw his mom die but the ending of the movie never happened in the 1st timeline, when Bruce was young. The kid still become the rainmaker.
This is what makes no sense. I think it's a giant plot hole and ruins the movie for me.
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The events that happened after Joseph Gordon Levitt didn't kill Bruce Willis never happened in young Bruce's timeline because young Bruce killed his older self right away. Then he went to China and met the chick, etc.
They implied that that the kid became the rainmaker when he saw his mom die but the ending of the movie never happened in the 1st timeline, when Bruce was young. The kid still become the rainmaker.
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The best counter I can think of is the butterfly effect LOL Watch it, if you don't know what i mean. She was destined to die by a looper so the rainmaker would have a personal vendetta towards loopers.
This is what makes no sense. I think it's a giant plot hole and ruins the movie for me.
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The events that happened after Joseph Gordon Levitt didn't kill Bruce Willis never happened in young Bruce's timeline because young Bruce killed his older self right away. Then he went to China and met the chick, etc.
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They implied that that the kid became the rainmaker when he saw his mom die but the ending of the movie never happened in the 1st timeline, when Bruce was young. The kid still become the rainmaker.
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"Then I saw it, I saw a mom who would die for her son, a man who would kill for his wife, a boy, angry & alone, laid out in front of him the bad path. I saw it & the path was a circle, round & round. So I changed it."
That quote is vital... and really, that plot hole is an inevitability... You're not meant to believe that an old joe killed rainmakerI, so it's never shown and we're left to assume the RainmakerI's motivations are that he holds a grudge against loopers somehow, hence he's killing them off. The key element of the film, and what your biggest takeaway should be is that Young Joe recognizes that a horrible loop is about to occur when Old Joe kills Sara... It's not about what created Rainmaker I, but what will create Rainmaker II. Our hero is Young Joe II, the anti-hero Old Joe and the villain- Rainmaker.
The ultimate twist would have been old Joe coming back from the future and knocking up someone, and their kid was the rainmaker. LOL Terminator styles.
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so if the rainmaker is in the future cleaning up the streets offing off all the old crime bosses, why would he have all the loopers close their loops one by one?
5. Knowing a looper killed his mother, is the Rainmaker closing all these loops for revenge?
“Or is he doing it because he’s come to power and he’s wiping everything out? It’s a good question.” says Johnson, suggesting there’s really no answer.
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