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Acura604 · 12-05-2012, 03:01 PM

noob alert.. how do i set win8 to load/launch into classic shell?

thanks!!!!!

LiquidTurbo · 12-05-2012, 05:29 PM

Quick question, don't wanna read through all pages. Are all win7 programs fully compatible on Win 8?
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Preemo · 12-05-2012, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidTurbo

Quick question, don't wanna read through all pages. Are all win7 programs fully compatible on Win 8?
Posted via RS Mobile

Everything that I ran before on Win 7 has run on Win 8. Unless you are running some old school legacy apps I am not sure. Anything in particular?

StylinRed · 12-05-2012, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidTurbo

Quick question, don't wanna read through all pages. Are all win7 programs fully compatible on Win 8?
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no, kaspersky 2012 isn't compatible needed to get the 2013

if you run the win8 upgrade assistant it will run a compatability check & tell you what if anything isn't compatible It's free to download/use from MSFT here
Upgrade to Windows 8 - Microsoft Windows

AzNightmare · 12-05-2012, 11:33 PM

I'm slowly getting used to Win8. Quite a bit of a learning curve considering I was still on XP.
But it helped that I've been using win7 at work.

I basically keep my desktop clean of icons now, and cram "icons" in the metro UI.
Not bad.

Manic! · 12-06-2012, 02:23 PM

Saw a Best Buy flyer in the local paper. Samsung I5 tablet for $1299 with Windows RT.

I know it's a mistake but Windows did not do a good job marketing the differences between the 2.

!MiKrofT · 12-07-2012, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Acura604

noob alert.. how do i set win8 to load/launch into classic shell?

thanks!!!!!

You need to install a 3rd party add on. I'm using startisback.

AzNightmare · 12-08-2012, 01:07 AM

Why is it that pretty much every "copy, moving folder, renaming file" action,

I keep getting this pop up that says something about admin permission?
But I can click Skip or Continue to carry on with my action anyway.

And I only have one account on my PC, so I assume I am the admin.

Edit:
This is BS. Why the fuck is everything locked up. I can't even save files that I edit, saying my access is denied.
I have to manually right click all my files and click "Take Ownership" before I can save my changes.

This can't be right, is this the default setting for Windows 8?
To lock everything up so idiots that don't know what they're doing can't fuck up their computer?
I don't even think a Mac is this retarded.

Edit 2:
Ok, I just basically selected all my folders in all my harddrives and right clicked to the submenu and hit "Take Ownership".

I feel stupid that I have to even resort to this method just so I can use my computer properly.

(btw, I had to install some third party program to even get that "Take Ownership" option in the submenu)

I must be missing something. I don't think a normal user would have figured this out.

Is all the files SUPPOSED to be locked up?? Maybe this was a "new" thing since Vista, where OS have been catering
to more stupid people. Cause in XP (the last OS I was using), there was no such thing like this...

StylinRed · 12-08-2012, 04:13 AM

never had that issue

maybe you set your UAC to max unknowingly?

AzNightmare · 12-08-2012, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by StylinRed

never had that issue

maybe you set your UAC to max unknowingly?

You're talking about that sliding bar (UAC setting), right?
I have it down to "Never Notify"

Seems like it's a common problem when I google the issue.
But no matter what solution method I try, doesn't seem to permanently get rid of these pop-up notifications.

Jmac · 12-08-2012, 12:01 PM

Have you edited the Registry to disable it?

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\policies\system

Key = EnableLUA
Change from 1 to 0

Restart Computer

SkinnyPupp · 12-08-2012, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AzNightmare

You're talking about that sliding bar (UAC setting), right?
I have it down to "Never Notify"

Seems like it's a common problem when I google the issue.
But no matter what solution method I try, doesn't seem to permanently get rid of these pop-up notifications.

Are you copying to system folders such as Program Files?

AzNightmare · 12-09-2012, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jmac

Have you edited the Registry to disable it?

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\policies\system

Key = EnableLUA
Change from 1 to 0

Restart Computer

This seems to have done the trick.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp

Are you copying to system folders such as Program Files?

I was copying and/or renaming files from pretty much anywhere in my computuer and it was giving me those admin warnings.

underscore · 12-09-2012, 12:15 PM

I've played with this for a few hours now, and I fucking hate it. Using IE through Metro meant I had to Ctrl + Tab to change tabs, and shutdown is under Settings? I know there are jokes about having to go to Start to shut down in older versions of Windows, but that's just stupid.

AzNightmare · 12-09-2012, 03:14 PM

There's definitely a learning curve, but I think majority of the people are either just jumping on the bandwagon to hate it or aren't even trying to learn it.

After a week of using it, I've noticed the Metro UI can be completely ignored if one doesn't even want to use it.
It's just an app layout screen, which doesn't replace the desktop at all.
If someone wants to put all their app shortcuts all over the main desktop, they can still do so just like in previous versions.

The other difference is shutting down the computer.
Shortcut is "Ctrl + I". You can then find the power icon there, and shutdown.
Might take a while to get used of not going to the start button to shutdown, but it's really not a drastic and complicated change.

I admit most of the preinstalled Metro apps are useless to me, or I just prefered doing it manually through an internet browser.
And I uninstalled a lot of them, such as the integrated Mail and Messenger.
But as for IE, I never used IE to begin with, and I don't think most people do either.
So that means most people will just be using FF or Chrome anyway on Windows 8.

I'm not saying Windows 8 is perfect, as indicated from my issues just a few posts back,
but then again, not everyone was having the same admin issues as me.
And now after a week, I'm starting to get the hang of it.
I jumped from WinXP, so I'm basically learning win8 and win7 at the same time.

SaviorSelf_666 · 12-09-2012, 03:50 PM

I use a program called pokki for a start button:

https://www.pokki.com/windows-8-start-menu

SkinnyPupp · 12-09-2012, 07:10 PM

Pokki is crap, use classic shell or start8. Pokki is just a way of getting their app store onto peoples' computers.

LiquidTurbo · 12-09-2012, 10:22 PM

Window's latest advertising, asking customers to 'take a chance'

LiquidTurbo · 12-09-2012, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzNightmare

There's definitely a learning curve, but I think majority of the people are either just jumping on the bandwagon to hate it or aren't even trying to learn it.

After a week of using it, I've noticed the Metro UI can be completely ignored if one doesn't even want to use it.
It's just an app layout screen, which doesn't replace the desktop at all.
If someone wants to put all their app shortcuts all over the main desktop, they can still do so just like in previous versions.

The other difference is shutting down the computer.
Shortcut is "Ctrl + I". You can then find the power icon there, and shutdown.
Might take a while to get used of not going to the start button to shutdown, but it's really not a drastic and complicated change.

I admit most of the preinstalled Metro apps are useless to me, or I just prefered doing it manually through an internet browser.
And I uninstalled a lot of them, such as the integrated Mail and Messenger.
But as for IE, I never used IE to begin with, and I don't think most people do either.
So that means most people will just be using FF or Chrome anyway on Windows 8.

I'm not saying Windows 8 is perfect, as indicated from my issues just a few posts back,
but then again, not everyone was having the same admin issues as me.
And now after a week, I'm starting to get the hang of it.
I jumped from WinXP, so I'm basically learning win8 and win7 at the same time.

I spend a week with metro. I'm really scratching my head as to why try to fix something that wasn't broke by any means. I find it really hard to build a case as to how search function is better on Win8 than Win7. It's really a step backward in my opinion. Metro doesn't really make any sense, and 3rd party work arounds seem to produce better results. I guess if I had to sum up how I feel, metro is just too intrusive to what you're doing on the desktop. Ie, why does it need to be full screen? It's like the start button taking up the full screen.

CT10 · 12-09-2012, 10:53 PM

I think Metro is a great idea in concept, however Microsoft totally screwed it up here. I see the benefits of how convenient things can be once you link up all your accounts to the Mail, Calendar, Contacts, and Skype app, however the execution is lacking.

These built in Microsoft apps are just hard to use and confusing, the Skype app for example is basically a stripped down version of the older one, there's hardly any customization's (I can't share my screen with others, can't start group chats, etc).

After I installed the Start8 menu I've gone back to the old traditional type of Windows and haven't touched Metro in a few days already

AzNightmare · 12-10-2012, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by LiquidTurbo

I spend a week with metro. I'm really scratching my head as to why try to fix something that wasn't broke by any means. I find it really hard to build a case as to how search function is better on Win8 than Win7. It's really a step backward in my opinion. Metro doesn't really make any sense, and 3rd party work arounds seem to produce better results. I guess if I had to sum up how I feel, metro is just too intrusive to what you're doing on the desktop. Ie, why does it need to be full screen? It's like the start button taking up the full screen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CT10

I think Metro is a great idea in concept, however Microsoft totally screwed it up here. I see the benefits of how convenient things can be once you link up all your accounts to the Mail, Calendar, Contacts, and Skype app, however the execution is lacking.

These built in Microsoft apps are just hard to use and confusing, the Skype app for example is basically a stripped down version of the older one, there's hardly any customization's (I can't share my screen with others, can't start group chats, etc).

After I installed the Start8 menu I've gone back to the old traditional type of Windows and haven't touched Metro in a few days already

I should have made myself more clear, I'm not exactly a big fan of Windows 8.
I'll agree nothing was broken with the older versions, so Win 8 isn't all that necessary. I don't know much about the back-end programming though, so I'll take people's word when they say it is a faster/smoother OS.

But I'll agree the metro wasn't all that necessary. The only thing I'm using it for is basically a secondary/hidden desktop to cram all my icons in there, leaving my main desktop nice and clean.

After a week of usage, all the integrated apps are horrible for the same reasons CT10 stated. And I actually hate how everything is linked up. I ended up reinstalling my own separate apps like WLM and Skype. Yeah, making everything fullscreen is also pointless.

I guess my point is that I don't HATE windows 8. I don't think "being too confused about how to shut down the PC" is a legitimate reason. I actually haven't really noticed the lack of Start button yet. (Maybe I just didn't really use it much on XP either).

But I'll agree windows 8 did do a lot of unnecessary things. Maybe the entire OS was unnecessary.

underscore · 12-10-2012, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by AzNightmare

But as for IE, I never used IE to begin with, and I don't think most people do either.

I wasn't planning on keeping it, but I know a lot of basic users will. Seriously, go try out IE from Metro and tell me what you think. It auto-fullscreens, which is great for anything with a smaller screen, but most people buying a new computer will get a 20"+ screen, where saving space isn't as important anymore (kind of like grouping taskbar icons in Win7. Why?)

SkinnyPupp · 12-10-2012, 08:37 AM

Why would you use Metro version of IE on anything other than a tablet?

StylinRed · 12-10-2012, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiquidTurbo

Window's latest advertising, asking customers to 'take a chance'

Windows 8: You and Me Together - YouTube

i like this one

the japanese song is $

full version of the commercial

Manic! · 12-10-2012, 12:18 PM

I started this thread but still don't have a computer running Windows 8 but that's about to change. Ordered a Lenovo Twist convertible laptop in November and now it's finally shipped. Should be here next Sunday or Monday.