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Old 11-09-2012, 11:28 AM   #26
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Wonder if the bike ran the stop sign...
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Old 11-09-2012, 11:49 AM   #27
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Wonder if the bike ran the stop sign...
you mean the car? the bike was heading southbound on burrard.
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:07 PM   #29
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2nd and 3rd cutting across Burrard is extremely dangerous. My girlfriend lives a couple blocks away and we always see vehicles trying to cut across Burrard usually narrowly missing getting t boned by vehicles traveling on Burrard, the worst are the cyclist that try and cut across Burrard on those streets, more than half of them just go flying into the intersection expecting cars to stop for them
Agreed. The worst part about the cyclists is that there is a bike lane and crossing at 1st ave just 1 or 2 blocks away.
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:08 PM   #30
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That bike must have been like a rocket to plow into the car with that amount of force to make it spin. RIP
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i think that the car was trying to cut across burrard and didn't see the bike coming, then the car pulled out in front of the bike, the bike hit the car so hard that it spun the car
the bike was probably going quite fast... i mean that E31 7 series is a two ton monster...
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The few times i've been down there i always see bikes just ripping up and down burrard with their loud exhausts.

Nonetheless, RIP
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:24 PM   #34
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Burrard is fucked up from broadway onward to dunsmir. There's so much activity going on in this street that confuses the fuck out of everyone. Railroad, bikes, pedestrians, hills, lane closures during peak hours, the whole 9 yards of fucked up. you know what's worse is after crossing the bridge there's a light immediately at the end of the bridge when people are blowing across the bridge at 90-120kph.

It's not bad enough that there are stop lights every block into downtown on burrard, it's the fucking pedestrians that cross leisurely when it's a solid red fucking palm and solid red light on the road for cars. They need technology that has that red palm bitch palms everyone who is still on the pedestrian crossing when it's already a red light. It's the Vancouver equivalent of Richmond's No. 3 road but with multitudes more road hazards. Which makes me ask why No. 3 road is so fucked up when it's nicely paved and has a very slight curve to it and is fucking flat.

RIP the two on the bike.

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RIP, can't believe this happened near my work. My coworker/friend saw the whole thing go down.
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The Bmw has to be at fault. There's no way you're not going to see them regardless their speed.

We don't hear the news talking about the driver is because the driver is most likely not a young adult or a teenager but the biker and the girl was younger.

News like this love to blame speed and the younger crowd.
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If the driver is a 22 year old driving an aventador we would hear it already
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Driver is a co-worker. She's mid 20. It's hard to dodge a 100km/h bullet. The 2 tons 7 series got ramped pretty good... She's probably partially at fault from the look of it. Yikes.
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The Bmw has to be at fault. There's no way you're not going to see them regardless their speed.

We don't hear the news talking about the driver is because the driver is most likely not a young adult or a teenager but the biker and the girl was younger.

News like this love to blame speed and the younger crowd.
I don't think they'll fault the BMW driver. I posted before about an accident where I changed lanes and was hit by a speeding car. Initially they assigned blame to me but later changed it to the speeding driver. I shoulder checked and the road was clear. I also looked in my mirror and there was another car but he was at least 10 car lengths behind. By the time I changed lanes he caught up to me. The reason I didn't get blamed is because it's unreasonable to expect a person to be able to judge the speed of an approaching car that could be going way over the limit. I checked and my lane was clear - the reason for the accident was the excessive speed of the other driver that caused him to close the gap faster than any reasonable person would expect.

Remember all the exotic cars that got impounded and people were saying the witnesses can't be relied upon since they aren't able to judge the speed of another car just by looking at it? Similar thing here. If the BMW driver looked left and saw a bike one block away, then looked right and saw it was clear, why wouldn't he cross? It's not reasonable to expect a vehicle to travel a block in the time it takes you to glance to the right to see if it's safe to go.

Of course there could be more, but this is my opinion based on what we've seen so far. The BMW driver could have blown the stop sign too, but if he did the usual "look both ways" then I don't think he'll be charged.
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Driver is a co-worker. She's mid 20. It's hard to dodge a 100km/h bullet. The 2 tons 7 series got ramped pretty good... She's probably partially at fault from the look of it. Yikes.
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I am not judging if your co-worker are partially or fully at fault but isnt driver suppost to make sure the intersection is clear before she drive thru the stop sign?
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I am not judging if your co-worker are partially or fully at fault but isnt driver suppost to make sure the intersection is clear before she drive thru the stop sign?
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Its the same as turning left. You need to make sure you won't be hit once you enter the intersection.

Even though it probably is the 'fault' of someone speeding in their own lane, fault will always be handed to the person crossing/merging the speeders 'right of way'.
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I am not judging if your co-worker are partially or fully at fault but isnt driver suppost to make sure the intersection is clear before she drive thru the stop sign?
Yes, that's why I said partially as guestimate. It could swing the way dragonay was saying too.

Don't really know her. The news just got passed around the office. Tragic.
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I retired from riding 5 years ago. Too many close calls. Too many idiot drivers out there. For riders it doesn't matter if the accident is their fault or not, the rider will always come out in the losing end no matter what. RIP
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Just found out a guy from work was on his 600 going to work right behind the other bike and saw the whole thing. Was with the police for a couple hours giving his statement. He's pretty shook up after what he saw. He's also a new rider and just got his bike. Other guys pushed his bike up to the shop as he couldn't ride.
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I love how everyone starts assuming who's fault it is when they weren't there and have no eyewitness accounts to back up their theories. And imo it doesn't matter who's fault it was because two people lost their lives so let it be and let ICBC deal with it.
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Just found out a guy from work was on his 600 going to work right behind the other bike and saw the whole thing. Was with the police for a couple hours giving his statement. He's pretty shook up after what he saw. He's also a new rider and just got his bike. Other guys pushed his bike up to the shop as he couldn't ride.
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