It's crazy how fragile life can be. One minute you're there, and the next you're gone. RIP good friend.

if its believed/witnessed that they were speeding i imagine they would be going far above that

driver was a friend of a friend; RIP

Everyone I know of is talking about these guys. I haven't gotten to know them personally, but they must have been good people. Cheers fellas, RIP

Speeding up the center lane of Liongate bridge in poor weather conditions..... I have no sympathy they obviously had little regard for their lives and that of others. I'm thankful they didnt hurt anyone else more severely. Darwin recipients in my books.

RIP, met one of them long time ago too...condolences to both their families :(

Feel worse for the people on the bus who had to experience this.
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Two people in their 20s lost their lives and I see people worrying about the "bus passengers" that didn't even have any life threatening injuries? Are you serious? Show some gratitude and respect!

You had a long life ahead of you.
RIP - T.L. you will be missed

They seemed like quite the popular people..

didn't know them personally but seems like tons of people i know knew them...

Rest in peace.

Richmond Review - Two young Richmond men die in Lion's Gate bridge crash

"officers on the scene said that based on the extent of the damage, speed was likely a factor."

RIP though

I dont give idiots gratitude or respect but meh if you respect idiots thats fine I guess. I doesnt say much good for you.
The only tragedy I see here is how their selfish stupid behaviour will forever negatively effect those directly involved (witnesses, paramedics, rescue crews etc) Those are who I respect.
The image of shattered bodies and twisted metal, the screams and moans of pain are with you forever. Those who deal with the aftermath of idiots have to live with that.
I have no respect for idiots.

I understand your sentiment, but I really don't think this is the right time for that.

Its life. No need to pussy foot around issues and sugar coat bullshit. People die, its a matter of life but when people die of stupid shit they dont deserve an automatic hero card and demands of respect. That shit pisses me off.

Those new West Van buses just went into service within the last month or so, looks like they did their job protecting the driver. RIP to those involved, but thankful no one else was killed.

If we were talking about strangers, then sure open up a discussion about it or create a thread. However, it seems like quite a few of our friends and fellow members knew these guys personally, it's not respectful to them to have this conversation right now in my opinion..I just don't see it as being constructive.

Outside of a picture and very basic facts, you know nothing about the conditions of the accident or the people involved. You're denouncing and insulting the deceased, and reiterating that opinion over and over again. You've driven above the speed limit, I've driven above the speed limit, and unfortunately when the deceased drove the above the speed limit they lost traction and a tragic series of events was initiated. The deceased made a simple mistake, one we've all made, that is not sufficient grounds to slander them as you have. Even if it were, this is certainly not the appropriate time or venue to do so. You lack even a modicum of decorum.

If you choose to respond to this post, do it via pm, I will not participate in steering this thread any further from the appropriate direction.

RIP.
A lost life is always a tragedy.

^ +1.

Ultimately they were irresponsible and it cost them their lives and endangered many others...I'm sure everyone thinks the same.

But to come out and say it blatantly when you see many people personally affected by it is just as disrespectful and an asshole move as doing it at their funeral.

RIP to the two, and hopefully they impact some drivers enough that they drive a bit more carefully now.

yes it is life, and obviously the driver made some bad decisions. but wouldn't you say him and the passenger has already paid for their bad decisions enough already?

will you calling them idiots and being disrespectful be constructive in any way?

what if they were your close friends? yeah they were being dumb, but the price was paid with their life already, the most valuable thing anyone can have. how would you feel if you saw strangers saying the things you've said instead of offering condolences?

in the end, lives were lost. there's no need to point fingers and push blame around, because that doesn't matter anymore.


i understand where you're coming from but you sound like a complete dick.

now i'm not saying you have to say any condolences, but if you don't have anything nice to say, might as well just keep your mouth shut and save grieving family and friends more unnecessary grief.

Your right I have sped and still do occasionally much like everyone else.
That is one of the most dangerous bridges in Canada. The speed limit is 50km/h on it. Have I driven 80+km/h on it? Never have never will, its a dangerous place to do so and not just for the sake of property or personal injury or death. There is an extreme probability of collateral damage and or death on this bridge.
The problem here isnt my attitude towards these kids it's the acceptance that shit happens, poor kids attitude. This creates precedence and acceptance towards more of this behavior leading to innocent people dying. A car can be a weapon or it can be personal transportation it all comes down to how you drive it. I believe a pat on the shoulder "I'm sorry your friend died he was a good kid" story is a terrible approach instead we should be reminding everybody just how precious life is and to respect your life but above all those of others. If you cant respect your life or those of others (exactly the case here) why should anyone respect theirs?
Like I said I sympathies for those affected and those who have to live with the decisions of those no longer with us. I do not sympathize for those who brought this upon themselves....... You make your bed you sleep in it!
Hows that for decorum?

"I doesnt say much good for you" either.

Have at least a little bit of decency and respect for the ones who passed. From the sounds of it, you don't even know them personally nor have got a chance to. They are good people, with a lot of things ahead of them in life. They were someones brother, friend and son. I'm pretty sure if the same happened to someone that you know, you wouldn't even dare call them an "idiot."

life is a gift, cherish it.

that is all.

^ well said

i feel no sympathy towards them, only to those who were affected by this accident.

You're doing a great job representing Rise Auto Salon, Phil.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, I get that, but you're taking it too far. A lot people knew these individuals and are mourning the loss so have some respect.

Phil, if it was one of your close friends or someone you knew, you would not be running your speaking about the ones that have passed.

Kids will always be kids , responsible or not. It is still someone's children.

I feel bad for the families and friends.

I think you should let people RIP.

RIP. What a tragedy. :(