Star Trek Into Darkness (2013)

[Gridlock]

Originally Posted by Lomac

It's a variation of the original films. Spock dies in The Wrath of Khan and then comes back to life in The Search For Spock. But instead of spreading it out over the next film, they simply shortened it.

Yeah dude...I got the connection

But in STII, spock died...and you cared. They didn't magically bring him back the next scene. And you had one of the saddest character funerals in a movie. And STIII sucked because they took away from the emotional connection of STII.

I'm a huge star trek fan. And I've been disappointed both outings on these.

I am sure that for people that never liked the original ST, that these ones probably work.

Spoiler!

How you screw up a character like Khan, I have no idea. You can call Benedink Cumberpooper many things, but none of them actually convince me in anyway that he played Khan in a Star Trek movie.

I know that casting always has a component of name recognition in combination with ability to play the part, but in some of these movies lately, I think we've completely forgot to ask if these people can play the role.

I'm actually angry that the character was whitewashed.

[Soundy]

Originally Posted by Gridlock

I'm actually angry that the character was whitewashed.

And I'm perturbed that people insist on injecting this racism where none was required or intended.

Go look up some of Abrams' comments on why Cumberbatch was chosen - none of them (at least none I've read) have anything to do with wanting to make Kahn "more white", and everything to do with his acting.

[Gridlock]

Well, if we picked him for the acting, we failed there too.

I'm not saying its a racist decision. I'm just saying he was a horribly bad casting for the role.

He used to be brown. Now he's not.

[gars]

If Abrams wanted to re-do the original movies like it was - he would've cast a horrible actor like Shatner as Kirk. But he didn't - he wanted to do something original - but keep a little taste of the old series/movies. He didn't cast a brown guy as Khan, because he wanted Cumberbatch - it has nothing to do with race.

Honestly, I quite enjoyed the movie - even though I was a huge fan of the original movies.