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Lexus Autonomous Driving Technology Teaser: 2013 CES
BY NELSON IRESON Jan 4, 2013
The Consumer Electronics Show has, over the past several years, become more and more about automotive technology. This year, Lexus will be flaunting its latest, including its take on autonomous driving tech.
While the company is touting the system as if it were about to reach production, one look at the monstrosity in the video here shows it's still very much a matter of research and development--much like Google's similarly-outfitted autonomous cars.
That's not to say that the sensors and equipment, once adapted to the intended use, couldn't be made smaller and integrated into production cars. In fact, that's exactly what we expect to happen--we just don't expect it for several more years, at the least.
The whole idea of autonomous cars is a bit of a mixed bag for enthusiasts like ourselves. While we can appreciate the potential for safety advances, easier--and more productive--commutes, and even a possible reduction in traffic slow-downs, the idea of handing over all control of a high-speed vehicle to a computer that's, at best, only partially aware of its surroundings, well...that's another matter.
How do you feel about self-driving cars? Let us know in the comments below.
It's going to happen. Some say within 10 to 15 years. It's already legal in a few states like Nevada and California. Planes already have auto pilot.
And do you know how expensive it costs for an airplanes auto pilot setup? Just to go RVSM up north is a $250,000 retro fit... And that's only to get within 1000' of other aircraft.
I can see something like they have in I Robot where you have certain dedicated thoroughfares where the car "locks" itself onto a sort of track and you can enter/exit at certain points.
technology is way too advanced these days that we forget how to use our brains. Already people can't do basic math with calculators readily available (smart phones), soon we wouldn't even be able to walk without the help of an "automated" machine. All in all, I'm still very pro in technological advances
I like the idea of a self driving vehicle, but it takes away from the experience of driving. If I wanted to spread out and relax on my commutes, I'd take the skytrain or other public transit, or even a taxi. A car is meant to be driven and controlled; with this automated driving, you might as well throw a bunch of railroad tracks on the streets and cart people around in train cars.
It'd be a cool option though, and I'm all for advances in technology, but not in this case.
And do you know how expensive it costs for an airplanes auto pilot setup? Just to go RVSM up north is a $250,000 retro fit... And that's only to get within 1000' of other aircraft.
I can see something like they have in I Robot where you have certain dedicated thoroughfares where the car "locks" itself onto a sort of track and you can enter/exit at certain points.
Technology is moving very fast and Google already has a car that's done over 100000 miles. It's coming and it's coming faster than most people think.
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I like the idea of a self driving vehicle, but it takes away from the experience of driving. If I wanted to spread out and relax on my commutes, I'd take the skytrain or other public transit, or even a taxi. A car is meant to be driven and controlled; with this automated driving, you might as well throw a bunch of railroad tracks on the streets and cart people around in train cars.
It'd be a cool option though, and I'm all for advances in technology, but not in this case.
I love to drive to but there are so many benefits to a self driving car. Think about a car that knows the light coming up is red. The car can slow itself down so by the time it gets to the light it will be green and it will also get rid of drinking and driving, speeding, and a whole bunch of other problems.
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Technology is moving very fast and Google already has a car that's done over 100000 miles. It's coming and it's coming faster than most people think.
There's just way too much work required to make it happen. I don't see it happening in the next 10-15 years as stated. I don't mind being proven wrong though haha.
And do you know how expensive it costs for an airplanes auto pilot setup? Just to go RVSM up north is a $250,000 retro fit... And that's only to get within 1000' of other aircraft.
I can see something like they have in I Robot where you have certain dedicated thoroughfares where the car "locks" itself onto a sort of track and you can enter/exit at certain points.
Ok you're fucking idiot.
Airplanes have to go through air law...get approved by FAA, Transport Canada, etc.
It's not like cars where you can pretty much invent whatever you want. This is why cars get advanced so fast.
This is the primary reason why Cessna, Piper and all the other small airplanes use engines from 1950s technology. They're all like lawnmower engine. It's not controlled by ECU.
You have to adjust mixture, carb heat, everything by yourself.
It would cost them couple million $ for each technology they want to get approved. (Fuel injection, automatic mixture, etc)
This is why Lycoming still sells "lawnmower technology" engines.
Otherwise they would have to sell it as a "non-certified" engine so that aircraft can be registered as "Experiment Aircraft"
Also, $250,000 that you're talking about is AFTER they paid several million $ to get approved. The cost to produce that auto pilot isn't nearly as high.
Just look at Cessna(certified aircraft manufacture) and VansAir or Lancair(Experimental Aircraft Manufacture).
For $100,000+, you can only get a Cessna 152(although they have 162).
Whereas for that price, if you go to Lancair, you can get way more sophisticated aircraft that can cruise at 250kias instead of 100kias like Cessna, pressurized cabin, etc. because they get to save money on approval.
This is why (certified) Aviation GPS would cost at least $8,000-$10,000, whereas for cars, you can find one for $100-$200.
They probably borrowed the autonomous acceleration technology from Toyota.
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Airplanes have to go through air law...get approved by FAA, Transport Canada, etc.
It's not like cars where you can pretty much invent whatever you want. This is why cars get advanced so fast.
This is the primary reason why Cessna, Piper and all the other small airplanes use engines from 1950s technology. They're all like lawnmower engine. It's not controlled by ECU.
You have to adjust mixture, carb heat, everything by yourself.
It would cost them couple million $ for each technology they want to get approved. (Fuel injection, automatic mixture, etc)
This is why Lycoming still sells "lawnmower technology" engines.
Otherwise they would have to sell it as a "non-certified" engine so that aircraft can be registered as "Experiment Aircraft"
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Also, $250,000 that you're talking about is AFTER they paid several million $ to get approved. The cost to produce that auto pilot isn't nearly as high.
Just look at Cessna(certified aircraft manufacture) and VansAir or Lancair(Experimental Aircraft Manufacture).
For $100,000+, you can only get a Cessna 152(although they have 162).
Whereas for that price, if you go to Lancair, you can get way more sophisticated aircraft that can cruise at 250kias instead of 100kias like Cessna, pressurized cabin, etc. because they get to save money on approval.
This is why (certified) Aviation GPS would cost at least $8,000-$10,000, whereas for cars, you can find one for $100-$200.
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