What morons. When I was learning to drive I took a lesson once a week for maybe 8 weeks before getting my N, then just drove my beater for a while and took a couple more lessons and got my class 5. The hardest thing about getting my license was probably taking the L test.

I am one of the people who hate transit and refuse to take it. Shitty transit system full of fat people and germs. No thanks.

Poor drivers and people who don't drive sports cars are the reason why I prefer to stay off the roads during the day. If I had it my way, everyone would have to take defensive driver training, undergo a license renewal road test every 5 years, and would be prohibited from driving cars with automatic transmissions unless drivers could prove a medical condition which physically inhibited them from driving a manual.

You must be a real delight to be around though. Fat people and germs? Puh-leeze.

I know this may come as a shock to a car forum, but... there are people whose lives don't actually revolved around vehicles and the fastest, most flashy way to get from A to B. I have plenty of friends and acquaintances who live in Yaletown or downtown and never NEED to go more than about 6 blocks from home - owning a car and carrying all its expenses is just wasteful when you use it MAYBE once a month. Some of them have licenses and use Zipcar or Car2Go the odd time they need wheels, but even that is rare.

Strangely, these people still manage to have busy, fulfilling lives...

Driving was only fun for me when I was in my teens. Now it just feels like a chore. Much rather hop on the skytrain and surf the web while I go from point A to B.

Already told the wife that if I ever do get a car again, it'll only be a weekend car.

Some days my drive to/from work is the best part of my day.

And I fucking hate transit too. After doing the 98-B-Line to downtown and back for a month I had enough and vowed to get a job where I didn't have to do that anymore.

There's a kid I tutor, he's kind of like my nephew. Even though he has no plans to drive and isn't sure which country he'll be in by the time he's done high school, I've been pushing him to get his DL. Ease of use as an ID, a useful talent to have, and great for bringing your insurance rates down as you get older even if you're not *driving* driving.


Also, the fact that a DL is an "huge undertaking" is bullshit. Written test, study for an hour or three before hand (or download the test practice app on Android and just keep going 'til you can't fail :lawl:). Driving test is a year out--you can't tell me that within a year you won't have the opportunity to improve your skills. Class 5 test is two years out from that...

Saying "It takes three years to get a license" means it's a huge undertaking is such a ridiculous spin. It's not like it's constant tests and exams and courses...it's just a fuckton of waiting.

Driving just makes so much more sense. A round trip to UBC takes me about an hour whereas if I took the bus it would be closer to 2.5 hours and time is money right now.

Then again I am coming from Richmond. Maybe if I lived in Vancouver I wouldn't need a car. But who am I kidding, a car isn't just an appliance for me or for most people on here.

I own a car that is insured but still take public transit almost daily.
Nothing wrong with saving some money on gas and there are always cuties on the bus I take so that doesn't hurt either.
No point being a snob and bitching about transit all the time.

If transit was more convenient for the places I need to go then it would definitely be a more viable option. However, given that it would take me longer to get to work I'd much prefer driving, not to mention it would be a 3 zone each way lol.
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props to you...I would just give in after half a semester and live on campus or the very least buy a beater.

It all depends in location. It's stupid to make blanket statements about how stupid owning of not owning a car is. The article is biased too. If you live in downtown or Yaletown, no shit you don't need a car. If you don't live along a bus route, then of course it makes more sense to drive.

Either way, nothing beats cruising around town with the top down on a nice summer day.
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I can be very irritable. I drive so that I don't have to put up with other bus riders, and they don't have to put up with me.

Mutually beneficial.

Sort of OT, I was in DT, driving along Hastings. Stopped behind a car that was turning right onto Cambie and Hastings, both of us waiting for a pedestrian to cross the street. Car turns, I go forward. Bus driver pulls up beside me at the next intersection and gives me the "eat shit and die" glare while mouthing something. I have no idea what I did to him. I leaned forward, smiled, and waved at him. I bet I really sent him over the edge.

I moved here for school 3 months ago from the Island, I drove every day for an hour a day at home. I stopped driving 3 days after I arrived. There is no pleasure in driving in this city.

Everyone is trying to kill you, traffic doesn't move, no one signals. It's awful. I take the train to school and it takes 10 minutes longer than driving (35 vs 45 mins)

It's worth it for the lack of stress. I still own both my cars, I keep one insured for when I need it (pleasure use only)

But until I leave vancouver when I'm done school, the u-pass is my main form of transportation. Vancouver roads are awful. I can see why no one here wants to drive.

maybe people are getting smarter eh? need vs want? I know for a fact I don't need to drive, because our transit system can take me anywhere I want. But I want to driver a 100k car therefore I do=p Probs to those who takes the bus=)

I was so close to writing a counter argument to your post but then I realized you live in Richmond...

Again it revolves around where you live. DT Vancouver.... sure, transit will get you to where ever you want faster than driving. However, if you live in an area where transit isn't available on demand and only comes by once an hour (trust me, that's how it is where I live), driving suddenly makes a lot more sense.

And before people start saying to move closer to a bus line, keep in mind that it's not that simple for the majority of people.

Besides commuting, I own a vehicle because i genuinely enjoy driving. Not because i have some awesome car (hint: I don't) but because there's something just magical about a nice drive after school or work, Windows down just cruising, music on... Maybe i'm just weird though? :okay:

Well as mentioned, smartphones, tablets and other gadgets have replaced the car as the status symbol of the youth. Most would probably give up their car over their phone... Plus with all the social media mediums, who needs to go out anymore anyways ?! :badpokerface:

I worked my butt off the summer of grade 10 and 11 to get my car in the beginning of this year. My 01 prelude se is my baby fuck my cellphone, I don't even listen to music I just like listening to my engine even while I'm cruising and the engagement of driving and rowing the gears. My generation is extremely lazy, people give me condescending talks about how much more work it is driving manual and I just laugh in their face. I'm not too surprised there are less and less people driving as our transit system is much more economical then driving ($80 bus passes vs $1.40 for a litre of gas + insurance and maint)

It's personal preference but to me.

vtec > going on facebook reading about people's days I dont give two shits about.

I've owned a car living with the folks in middle-of-fucking-nowhere-Surrey.
And I've also lived on my own without a car in Burnaby, along the skytrain route.

Honestly speaking, the two feel the same to me.
If I needed to get to school from wherever it was that I was living at the time, it would have taken the same amount of time, driving from Surrey or transiting from Burnaby.
And in the long run, what I was saving by living at home all went to car payments, gas, insurance, and all that extra money I'm spending because of the added mobility of going anywhere I damn well wanted.

So yes, it does depend on where you live. But also another factor is just your attitude. People who do nothing but complain about idiots on public transit (granted, there are a LOT of those) are just picky, that's all.
It's all routine; within a certain extent, that is. I've never understood how people I knew who grew up in Langley would make the transit to and from UBC every fucking day for like 3 hours of lecture. It gets too much when you're effectively spending more time on transit than you are at your destination.
But in my first year of university, I toughed it out by sloshing through the snow 6:30 in the morning onto a bus smelling like wet feet and coffee, then pile into an overstuffed skytrain with people still drunk from the night before or those who talk too fucking loud on their phones, and I didn't mind it.
Then there was a period in time where I just drove everywhere, and I pretty much just starting hating public transit.
Now that my transiting to driving ratio is about 70:30, I've found a pretty sweet spot.

But that all just goes to show that I've readjusted to the specific circumstances.

Just sayin...beyond being able to afford paying for a car and/or afford living at a more urban metropolitan area, some people just need to stop fucking whining.

But since this is a car forum, yes, owning a car and driving it is fucking awesome (if not slightly unaffordable depending on how you drive and where you live).

ive noticed when driving by some high schools the parking lots are surprisingly bare compared to when i went to high school

i took that to mean that times are hard for many not that people are taking transit instead... i find that hard to believe :D but i guess we're biased

do people not know about BCID??

wooo I actually enjoy driving.

A trend of fewer cars on the road? I don't mind at all. I actually think there are too many.

Trust me, I can't wait til the day I'm back in a small down, and put my impreza back on the road and never see the inside of a bus again.

Even if I could afford it, I wouldn't risk it here. It'd be driven into, doors smashed in parking lots, impounded and VI'd all in the first week :okay:

haha I can relate I worked like mad gr.10 - 11 saving to buy a g35 lool ended up saving 7k then giving up because I found out insurance was to expensive. so I just split insurance for my family car and drive that around. sucks how I only know like 1 person paying for insurance I'm grade 12.
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