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coolname 03-23-2013 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dared3vil0 (Post 8192185)
How the hell do you get insurance for 150 and gas for 80? My insurance is 300 a month and i pay 70 a week in gas...

92 miata, i paid for the first year insurance upfront and put 150 a month away so i will have the money again next year. I am still a student so i only use my car to get to work 3 times a week(20 minutes drive) and to go out with friends on weekend.

q0192837465 03-23-2013 10:12 AM

Wow, how do you guys manage to use so much gas. My slk55 uses $30 of gas each week (commuting from work, not counting weekend trips) I drive from east van to lougheed mall everyday to work.
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Tapioca 03-23-2013 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bloodmack (Post 8192535)
The best cars ever came out in the 90's

The 1990s was the peak in terms of the balance between engineering and reliability. The engineering has improved, but cars are now designed for obsolescence.

Purely 03-23-2013 10:57 AM

90's cars are a lot better than modern cars today.

UFO 03-23-2013 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dared3vil0 (Post 8192185)
How the hell do you get insurance for 150 and gas for 80? My insurance is 300 a month and i pay 70 a week in gas...

what car do you drive? haha. $300/mth insurance works out to like ~$3500/yr just for insurance

When I was in Uni the first time around, I had a beater. Bought no collision because it wasnt worth it. Had 1M third party, basic coverage, and I think $500 deductible for comprehensive. It was about $1100/yr with 20-30% discount. And probably spent about $50/mth in gas, but gas back then was around $0.70/L

I half feel the pain of the kids these days driving G35's and 350z's; $100+/tank that gets you maybe 350km's. But then the other half realizes that their cars are about 15x better than my Yaris

k2damax 03-23-2013 03:19 PM

I pay 260 a month for insurance and probably spend 140 a month on gas ...

hongy 03-23-2013 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by UFO (Post 8192658)
what car do you drive? haha. $300/mth insurance works out to like ~$3500/yr just for insurance

When I was in Uni the first time around, I had a beater. Bought no collision because it wasnt worth it. Had 1M third party, basic coverage, and I think $500 deductible for comprehensive. It was about $1100/yr with 20-30% discount. And probably spent about $50/mth in gas, but gas back then was around $0.70/L

I half feel the pain of the kids these days driving G35's and 350z's; $100+/tank that gets you maybe 350km's. But then the other half realizes that their cars are about 15x better than my Yaris

100 per tank.. I get around 300km...
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Splinter 03-23-2013 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tapioca (Post 8192606)
The 1990s was the peak in terms of the balance between engineering and reliability. The engineering has improved, but cars are now designed for obsolescence.

90s cars are also a lot better for modifications. Too much inter-connectivity in modern cars.

jing 03-23-2013 05:49 PM

My gf wAnders why I only like old cars... I'm glad there are other likeminded individuals out there lol
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Soundy 03-23-2013 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by VRYALT3R3D (Post 8191757)
The people not interested in cars and more interested in phones and other technology is what is killing it.

People have always had other interests besides cars; phones and technology are just RECENT distractions. What, you think before 1990 *everyone* was into cars because there were no cell phones?

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Originally Posted by Tapioca (Post 8192606)
...but cars are now designed for obsolescence.

This is just another symptom of the same issue with those "phones and technology". Nobody wants to pay what it costs for something solid, reliable and long-lasting. They want cheap, and they're willing to just throw it away when it breaks and gets something new. Holds true for tech, holds true for cars.

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Originally Posted by VRYALT3R3D (Post 8191757)
Sucks for them, because some of the BEST cars EVER are coming out now.

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Originally Posted by Tapioca (Post 8192606)
The 1990s was the peak in terms of the balance between engineering and reliability.

In 1981 my dad bought a brand new Dodge pickup with the classic Slant-6. He retired it in 1987 with a cracked frame and bagged suspension, and over 450,000km on it. Yes, in barely six years. Despite having been run dry of oil at least once, the old Slant-6 was still chugging along. You want reliable, that was it. My buddy had a '67 Valiant with the same plant. The design stuck around for a long time because of its reliability. The Mopar slant six engines

Drow 03-23-2013 07:01 PM

got confused when i read "urban youths"

Soundy 03-23-2013 07:10 PM


dared3vil0 03-23-2013 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by UFO (Post 8192658)
what car do you drive? haha. $300/mth insurance works out to like ~$3500/yr just for insurance

When I was in Uni the first time around, I had a beater. Bought no collision because it wasnt worth it. Had 1M third party, basic coverage, and I think $500 deductible for comprehensive. It was about $1100/yr with 20-30% discount. And probably spent about $50/mth in gas, but gas back then was around $0.70/L

I half feel the pain of the kids these days driving G35's and 350z's; $100+/tank that gets you maybe 350km's. But then the other half realizes that their cars are about 15x better than my Yaris

The ridiculous part is it's just a generic Civic Si. I drive 400KM a week and spend around 70/week in gas. 298 is the cheapest insurance i can find. I've never been in an accident either. That's what happens when you're only 18 though...

Tapioca 03-24-2013 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dared3vil0 (Post 8193073)
The ridiculous part is it's just a generic Civic Si. I drive 400KM a week and spend around 70/week in gas. 298 is the cheapest insurance i can find. I've never been in an accident either. That's what happens when you're only 18 though...

You have 2 years of driving experience and you drive a car that has been one of the most stolen cars in recent years. That is why your premiums are so high.

Lesson: drive a beater and decline extra coverage in your early years so you can earn your claims discount cheaply.

dared3vil0 03-24-2013 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tapioca (Post 8193536)
You have 2 years of driving experience and you drive a car that has been one of the most stolen cars in recent years. That is why your premiums are so high.

Lesson: drive a beater and decline extra coverage in your early years so you can earn your claims discount cheaply.

Good point on the most stolen car. never though of that.

Tapioca 03-24-2013 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Splinter (Post 8192966)
90s cars are also a lot better for modifications. Too much inter-connectivity in modern cars.

Modifications are over-rated and they reduce the resale value of your car.

When you have superior engineering, you don't need modifications. See the BMW E30, E34, and E39.

Splinter 03-24-2013 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tapioca (Post 8193538)
Modifications are over-rated and they reduce the resale value of your car.

When you have superior engineering, you don't need modifications. See the BMW E30, E34, and E39.

Oh lord this is cute. I have an 83 Brat and a 98 Impreza. What the hell do I care about resale value? They're basically worthless.

I modify cars because I enjoy modifying cars. I don't see the point in just buying a car. Anyone can do that. Taking a shell and turning it into something that you created will ALWAYS be the greater challenge, is INFINITELY more rewarding and the whole point of cars to me. I don't care if your brand new factory stamped car can drive circles around me. I built my car, not some asshole in germany.

VRYALT3R3D 03-24-2013 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tapioca (Post 8193538)
Modifications are over-rated and they reduce the resale value of your car.

When you have superior engineering, you don't need modifications. See the BMW E30, E34, and E39.

I guess I am an idiot then. I plan on getting a ZR1 and pouring another 40k into it for 900RWHP.

Oh no! My resale value:okay:

bing 03-24-2013 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Splinter (Post 8193548)
Oh lord this is cute. I have an 83 Brat and a 98 Impreza. What the hell do I care about resale value? They're basically worthless.

I modify cars because I enjoy modifying cars. I don't see the point in just buying a car. Anyone can do that. Taking a shell and turning it into something that you created will ALWAYS be the greater challenge, is INFINITELY more rewarding and the whole point of cars to me. I don't care if your brand new factory stamped car can drive circles around me. I built my car, not some asshole in germany.

Ah, another argument meant to indicate moral superiority. "I built my car while he bought it" or "he paid someone to put those modifications while I did it myself". This is what I call 'shit box logic' so people can make themselves feel better about themselves. Why is the individual who builds the car for a customer in North America automatically labeled an asshole?

optiblue 03-24-2013 06:44 PM

This is the main topic of conversation more often than never among my friends! The consensus is that less and less young kids will drive during and after schooling nowadays and that leaves people that drive with more space around town! Sucks to be a dealership though.

Splinter 03-24-2013 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bing (Post 8193704)
Ah, another argument meant to indicate moral superiority. "I built my car while he bought it" or "he paid someone to put those modifications while I did it myself". This is what I call 'shit box logic' so people can make themselves feel better about themselves. Why is the individual who builds the car for a customer in North America automatically labeled an asshole?

Because I felt like it :)

I don't get how people who've never so much as installed a lightbulb in their car can call themselves a car enthusiast. For what I've spent on my Impreza I could have easily bought a brand new car, for cash. I didn't want to though. It has nothing to do with false logic so I feel better about myself. I feel good about myself for working on my car.

VRYALT3R3D 03-24-2013 06:58 PM

Nevermind

Gerbs 03-24-2013 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by shenmecar (Post 8192517)
not surprising at all. i see my younger brother and his friends within the age group of 16-19, only one has a license.

i think its not so much to do with laziness but a change in priorities that they see important now. 6 years ago while i was in high school, my friends and i couldn't wait to get our licenses. we used to go cruising after class and nearly killed ourselves numerous times, because it was FUN. i see my brother and his friends and they're all into working out, protein shakes and true religion jeans
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No your brother is just lazy to get his license LOL

J.C 03-28-2013 06:37 PM

^^ lol were 2 of your brothers friends that do have it
i drive roughly 5 days of the week to the gym or to go shopping or something and im grateful to be privelaged to have the car so often
what i find is that they're either too lazy, scared of driving, have no interest in driving, or rely on other people to drive them around

ironheader 01-08-2015 01:02 PM

Parking Near my work in the Downtown Eastside is $10+ per day; almost double on nights with events at the stadiums. That's whats primarily going to prevent me from driving to work.


Damn I just bumped a 2 Year Old Thread. Woops!


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