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05-28-2013, 09:22 AM
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| Buying car that was never aircared
So, going to be purchasing a car that comes from the interior which means the car never had to go through aircare. Car is already located in Richmond at a dealer (was a dealer trade).
However, whats the best way to insure this while I take it to go get the appropriate parts and bring it into the shop to get the fixes it needs. One insurance place told me its about $40/day for temporary insurance.
Dealer is saying some people register it out of province or something? Seems like it could be a huge hassle.
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05-28-2013, 09:26 AM
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aren't the dealership suppose to get it pass air care before they sell it to you?
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05-28-2013, 09:34 AM
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sounds like a sketchy ass dealership
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05-28-2013, 09:38 AM
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they are supposed to aircare it before you buy it
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05-28-2013, 09:59 AM
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You need to just get a day permit from an ICBC agent. I don't even think it's $40 for one day. Get the permit, drive it through aircare, go back to ICBC and show them the pass, get plates & insurance for a year. It's pretty simple.
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05-28-2013, 10:02 AM
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This sounds like one of those King George/Kingsway dealerships... just in Richmond. 
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05-28-2013, 10:03 AM
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if a dealership is selling it to you they have to have it inspected and aircared.
unlesss, they sell it as wholesale/non drivable in that case you are supposed to tow it off the lot because they couldnt certify that its safe
something like that anyways
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05-28-2013, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Teriyaki Dealer is saying some people register it out of province or something? Seems like it could be a huge hassle. | I would steer away from a dealer who would recommend that to you.... 
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05-28-2013, 10:14 AM
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Stay away from the car until the dealer aircares it. The dealer probably knows they have to put in more money for repairs to get it to pass aircare.
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05-28-2013, 10:19 AM
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Make THEM aircare it before you buy it.
I bought a teg from the island once. Biggest fucking mistake of my life. Dumped thousands into it and still couldn't pass so I sold it after 5 months
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05-28-2013, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by snails if a dealership is selling it to you they have to have it inspected and aircared.
unlesss, they sell it as wholesale/non drivable in that case you are supposed to tow it off the lot because they couldnt certify that its safe
something like that anyways | Not exactly true.
If the vehicle requires a BC Safety Inspection ("BC Out of Province Inspection") they can't legally let you drive it away. However, requiring Aircare is not a safety concern and they are well within their rights to sell a car that is not aircared, in fact they are not actually even required to disclose this as passing aircare is not a legal declaration in BC while other items like Damage over $2000, Out of Province, etc. are.
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05-28-2013, 10:37 AM
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OP can you please tell us what dealership this is?
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05-28-2013, 10:42 AM
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Lets say its an internal staff sale. Its being let go for close to dealer trade-in value. Of course, downside of that is the dealer won't dump the requisite amount of money in the vehicle to get it road-ready.
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05-28-2013, 10:45 AM
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Sound like a wholesale vehicle. In that case the dealer does not need to inspect or aircare the vehicle, it will be sold as is.
Whats the model and year if you don't mind me asking?
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05-28-2013, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by lowside67 Not exactly true.
If the vehicle requires a BC Safety Inspection ("BC Out of Province Inspection") they can't legally let you drive it away. However, requiring Aircare is not a safety concern and they are well within their rights to sell a car that is not aircared, in fact they are not actually even required to disclose this as passing aircare is not a legal declaration in BC while other items like Damage over $2000, Out of Province, etc. are.
Mark | None of which means you can't make it a condition of sale that the dealer have it AirCared first.
But gars says, if the dealer is suggesting you get around AirCare by registering it out of province, you might want to stay away - sounds like a pretty sketchy place.
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if it's an internal staff purchase, why don't you use the dealer d-plate to drive the car to get air care?
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05-28-2013, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Soundy None of which means you can't make it a condition of sale that the dealer have it AirCared first.
But gars says, if the dealer is suggesting you get around AirCare by registering it out of province, you might want to stay away - sounds like a pretty sketchy place. | Absolutely true and I didn't ever suggest otherwise - I would certainly make the dealer aircare the car if I was buying it retail. However, I am responding to OP's question which is how to go about doing it himself, and then correcting a little incorrect info further down the thread. He stated that it's an employee buy so they are obviously giving him a deal.
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05-28-2013, 11:18 AM
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day permit should only be around the 20s, I cant recall but I think its around $27.
you should still try to negotiate it into the deal that they handle aircare, only because things can go wrong, or shops wont be able to take you in same day and might result in you having to buy day permits multiple times.
before you know it your bill for day permits only is in the 100s, which isnt worth your time.
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If its a 98+ vehicle they just plug it in, don't actually do a smog test. Readings could be off the charts but as long as engine light is off and sensors are ready it'll pass. I got screwed yesterday because the sensors weren't ready on my car due to disconnected battery 
I would make them air scam it before you purchase it though.
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05-28-2013, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Vdub333 day permit should only be around the 20s, I cant recall but I think its around $27.
you should still try to negotiate it into the deal that they handle aircare, only because things can go wrong, or shops wont be able to take you in same day and might result in you having to buy day permits multiple times.
before you know it your bill for day permits only is in the 100s, which isnt worth your time. | Day permit is $28 min coverage, $35 full coverage
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05-28-2013, 06:54 PM
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One of the exception to aircare is If the vehicle is from out of province, with a passed provincial inspection, the vehicle hasn't been plated before after it has been registered, the first plate/policy they buy will not need aircare.
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05-28-2013, 08:06 PM
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If it's an internal staff sale then you should be able to at least attempt aircare before final purchase. No way in hell I'd buy before knowing if it's going to pass or not (unless you're certain that the savings outweigh the known cost to corect).
Spend the $ for day permit and aircare to find out. If it fails, take it back and they can try to fuck someone else over that's not "internal staff" (not that I condone it, but hey, we all know it happens in used auto sales). They have nothing to lose by letting you try.
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05-29-2013, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Nodnarb If it's an internal staff sale then you should be able to at least attempt aircare before final purchase. No way in hell I'd buy before knowing if it's going to pass or not (unless you're certain that the savings outweigh the known cost to corect).
Spend the $ for day permit and aircare to find out. If it fails, take it back and they can try to fuck someone else over that's not "internal staff" (not that I condone it, but hey, we all know it happens in used auto sales). They have nothing to lose by letting you try. |
I think most of us here are already suspicious enough of used car dealers. I don't think you should be encouraging yet another dealer to become a shady one. C'mon, Revscene can be better than this.
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05-29-2013, 12:23 PM
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If its OBD2 like OTG mentioned just plug in a OBD reader and check the readiness of the sensors. If they've all readied and you have no CEL you are good to go
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05-29-2013, 09:10 PM
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you shouldnt pay a dime, get the dealer to aircare it for your before you sign or sign contingent on it passing aircare with whatever deal you made with him
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