The Iphone 5S/5C/etc Thread

[Acura604]

I love ios7... cant ever even look at ios6. ...but GM not OTA damn... i'll have to find a way to snag it.

[StylinRed]

So everyone seems to be taking the Nokia path of Plastic cases and Multiple colours



Am not interested in the fingerprint scanner more NSA crap

[Lomac]

I'll admit I'm not a fan of fingerprint scanners. I used to work for a company that had 'em in order to gain access to a few sections of the building. The owner was super proud of them and boasted how they were unhackable and all that jazz. So one day we managed to snag a fingerprint off of his mug and walked into his office after using that print. Needless to say he quickly changed all fingerprint scanners with something a little more conventional. Now obviously in this case it's designed more for convenience than actual security, but I feel that it's more of a gimmick than anything else.

The processor specs are pretty good for the 5s. Would have been nice to see them try a bit harder with the camera and opt for 120fps in 1080p instead of 720p, but that'll probably be in the 6. Also would have liked them to introduce NFC. Curious why they still haven't done that.

Also, that gold colour? Out of all the colours available to them, gold is one of the gaudiest they could have chosen.

[DanHibiki]

The gold will be popular amongst females. A few girls on fb were like "OMG gold! I'm sold!"

I'm also gonna stick with my 5 until something more remarkable is introduced. Ios7 will already keep the older phones fresh a little while longer.
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[murd0c]

Everything gangster in the ghetto is going to be rocking a gold iPhone so it's a smart move on apples point lol

[dangonay]

Originally Posted by Lomac

I'll admit I'm not a fan of fingerprint scanners. I used to work for a company that had 'em in order to gain access to a few sections of the building. The owner was super proud of them and boasted how they were unhackable and all that jazz. So one day we managed to snag a fingerprint off of his mug and walked into his office after using that print. Needless to say he quickly changed all fingerprint scanners with something a little more conventional. Now obviously in this case it's designed more for convenience than actual security, but I feel that it's more of a gimmick than anything else.

The processor specs are pretty good for the 5s. Would have been nice to see them try a bit harder with the camera and opt for 120fps in 1080p instead of 720p, but that'll probably be in the 6. Also would have liked them to introduce NFC. Curious why they still haven't done that.

Also, that gold colour? Out of all the colours available to them, gold is one of the gaudiest they could have chosen.

The iPhone sensor is about security. Apparently it requires "live flesh" in order to work. You can't just use a duplicate of a print to gain access. This is what Authentec was working on when Apple bought them and is described in some of Apples recent patent applications.

The fingerprint data is encrypted and stored inside the A7 chip (what Apple calls the "enclave"). It never leaves the phone or gets uploaded to any servers.

[Lomac]

Originally Posted by dangonay

The iPhone sensor is about security. Apparently it requires "live flesh" in order to work. You can't just use a duplicate of a print to gain access. This is what Authentec was working on when Apple bought them and is described in some of Apples recent patent applications.

The fingerprint data is encrypted and stored inside the A7 chip (what Apple calls the "enclave"). It never leaves the phone or gets uploaded to any servers.

Oh ours had pulse and heat sensors as well. A thin gelatin mold put over a fingertip was more than enough to fool it. But the chances are of someone going through all that trouble to make a mold for a simple phone is pretty slim.

[dangonay]

Originally Posted by Lomac

Oh ours had pulse and heat sensors as well. A thin gelatin mold put over a fingertip was more than enough to fool it. But the chances are of someone going through all that trouble to make a mold for a simple phone is pretty slim.

That might work and I'm sure people are going to try it out. There are countless methods to try and fool fingerprint scanners, but they have all been applied to older technology. My understanding of this is that living tissue it not detected by heat or pulse but by the slight electrical charges that are present in a finger. Nowhere in the patents I read is there any mention of heat or pulse detection.

[LiquidTurbo]

Wtf? $549??
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[DanHibiki]

Originally Posted by LiquidTurbo

Wtf? $549??
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"Affordable"
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[willystyle]

^ $599

[MTV Cribs]

If the 5C was $300-$400 I would have bought 4 of them to replace the iPhone 4. But at $600 I'm not going to buy any at all. The 5C at $600 makes the 5S at $720 a way better deal.
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[willystyle]

The most amusing aspect of the 5C is that it is Apple's weapon to better compete with mid-level Android phones in China, India, and other developing countries, where Android dominates in those markets.

However, at a $600 price point with lacking hardware specs, how will they compete with mid-entry Android phones at $300-400 with the same iPhone 5C specs?

They can't compete in the high end either, as all the high-end Android phones have better specs for the same price than the lesser equipped iPhone 5C. Lol

[kwy]

Fingerprint scanner is gimmicky just like face unlock on Android, except when it breaks it'll rape your wallet as well. How very Apple.

[MarkyMark]

I can't believe the 5C costs so much, i thought it would be like a Nexus priced phone.

[.Renn.Sport]

updated my 4S to iOS7 GM, surprisingly its running very smooth compared to beta, in fact its even running better than iOS6!

[G]

I don't know about you guys, but Apple has been pretty good in terms of replacing stuff for free in my experiences (when my home button didn't work, and dead pixel on screen). IMO I wouldn't worry too much if the scanner breaks... just more of a nuisance

[threezero]

Originally Posted by G

I don't know about you guys, but Apple has been pretty good in terms of replacing stuff for free in my experiences (when my home button didn't work, and dead pixel on screen). IMO I wouldn't worry too much if the scanner breaks... just more of a nuisance

only if its under warranty. my home button on my old ip4 broke exactly a month after its out of warranty, no love from apple

[mos_skeeto]

I actually think pricing themselves out of the low-medium range is good for the brand. They're the LV and Benz of cell phones especially with the new bling color.

[twitchyzero]

How I feel about the reveal

Apple knows how to make their chips...64-bit SoC that drive games that rival current-gen console games...2 years ago you had ShadowGun which was comparable to current-gen launch titles...so mobile gaming scene pretty much caught up 4-5 years of console graphical fidelty in about 2 years.

5C is overpriced...$599 is NOT entry-level

sorry for the tin-foil hats but I wont be surprised if something like this is happening behind the scenes.

Originally Posted by Presto

Fingerprint data will be sent to the NSA for safekeeping.

[willystyle]

Originally Posted by mos_skeeto

I actually think pricing themselves out of the low-medium range is good for the brand. They're the LV and Benz of cell phones especially with the new bling color.

The reason why they released an iPhone 5C model was to COMPETE in the mid-entry sector because Android's global dominance is currently above 80% mobile market share now, mostly from entry to mid-level price point handsets in developing countries. Not to mention, the sale of the iPhone 4, 4S, and 5 has been slumping in Europe due to the financial crisis over there. Europeans arent spending as much money on high-end handsets like they used to.

APPLE HAD TO DO something to prevent further decrease in market share, so they released the 5C to compete with Android's mid-entry level phones, even if that means that they will have to sacrifice some of the revenue generated from the sale of their high-end device (iPhone 5S).

As we witness today, there's no chance in hell Apple will pick up much sale from the 5C without price reduction. No one in their right mind would buy a 5C over a S4/HTC One for about the same price (for example).

If iPhone 5/5S is a Mercedes-Benz then what's a Galaxy S4/Note 3? Ferrari and Lamborghini?

[van_city23]

any word on how much ram is going to be in the phones? i haven't seen it listed anywhere. Would low ram make a difference with the 64 bit chip or does it need more than 1g of ram which was in the 5 to actually notice a difference?

[willystyle]

Originally Posted by van_city23

any word on how much ram is going to be in the phones? i haven't seen it listed anywhere. Would low ram make a difference with the 64 bit chip or does it need more than 1g of ram which was in the 5 to actually notice a difference?

64-bit CPU and OS is useless and unnecessary (for now) when you have under 4GB of RAM, which is essentially what these phones will have.

[Hondaracer]

so does the 5 now suppost ios7?

[DanHibiki]

Ios 7 is iPhone 4 and up so yes.

Available sept 18 ;_;
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