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The Optima is definitely interesting to look at for a car of its class, but the design is a bit polarizing. I can see it becoming dated faster than some of the more traditionally designed, conservative competitors. The side vents are pretty gaudy as well..
this is good news to people who like to save and buy second hand!
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I think more cars are being designed for aerodynamics (fuel economy), hence the sporty appearance.
The Impala certainly looks sporty and can move under its own weight but it's a highway passer at it's best. Nothing more. It's still a chunky sedan built for American bums (gluteus maximus, not hobos).
Today, I got passed by the latest gen Jag XJ. Don't see many at all on the streets but they look gorgeous in person.
I can't stand cars that look heavy. For example, the current generation TL. That thing looks really heavy. It may be nimble (which I doubt) and quick, but it looks so slow and heavy. The look does not inspire sportiness. It resembles obesity.
Another perfect example, the last gen Accord coupe. Look at that fat heavy ass it has. Ugh.
I imagine this car must have massive body roll with that hideous hunchback backend. You know those old ass stretch Cadillacs or Buicks? The ones that are like 67 feet long, and lean to one side during turns.
The cleaner bodylines with less side mouldings etc makes the car look larger
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The Optima is definitely interesting to look at for a car of its class, but the design is a bit polarizing. I can see it becoming dated faster than some of the more traditionally designed, conservative competitors. The side vents are pretty gaudy as well..
No different from fashion trends if you think about it.
Keeping a clean, conservative design will stand the test of time (Lexus). Knock it on release for being boring but 20 years later, people will know. I can't imagine people will know (or care) what a Veloster was in 20 years.
Yup. Some car designs are pretty timeless. Other car designs take advantage of current trends to make a quick impact. Manufacturers don't care about the used car market very much, after all.
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Originally Posted by nns
I can't stand cars that look heavy. For example, the current generation TL. That thing looks really heavy. It may be nimble (which I doubt) and quick, but it looks so slow and heavy. The look does not inspire sportiness. It resembles obesity.
My buddy has one and it is nimble and fast but that maybe because I was expecting slow and sluggish for as you say it looks heavy. its pretty surprising especially when you put it in "sport" mode
I agree the new genesis sedan is a really slick looking vehicle. It doesn't belong matched up against these other cars. It's going to be in the high 40's.
If just comparing by looks, I'd definitely get the mazda 6. But if the honda accord sport with the 18 inch wheels and rear spoiler is 2k cheaper then M6, I'd get the accord cuz it's pretty good looking as well.
Mazda still offers traditional auto trans, honda only offers cvt now, no thanks to the CVT. If I were to get the honda, definitely the manual.
A lot of nice looking cars at the $30k price point and surprisingly a lot these cars have tons of options which in the past $30k would never be equipped with.
A lot of the cars listed here would peak $40 000 quite quickly.
For that money on the used market you could snag a W212 Mercedes E class with anywhere from 40-60000km.
Thats how I always look at it. Thats why I always end up moving to the used market...
I do agree that there are some very nice looking family sedans coming out now though. I love the accord and the mazda 6, and I have always liked the TL's...
surprisingly a lot these cars have tons of options which in the past $30k would never be equipped with.
because even entry level cars these days have a lot of bells and whistles...corolla has start button and backup camera...something that isn't common in North American variants
one day even a Ford Fiesta will have blind spot system and parking assist
because even entry level cars these days have a lot of bells and whistles...corolla has start button and backup camera...something that isn't common in North American variants
one day even a Ford Fiesta will have blind spot system and parking assist
One reason why I'm amused that companies like Mercedes still charge to have bi-xenon lights installed in their cars. It comes stock in a $25,000 Mazda 3 GT, so why not a luxury car?