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Old 09-30-2013, 05:49 PM   #51
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Bikers were idiots for the way they were riding

Driver was an idiot for not calling the cops and staying on the highway - get cops involved, apologize to rider you hit (yes it looks like he brake checked him, and this deserved it, but in the end of the day 50 retards on motorbikes - I think I'd take the high road), offer to pay for any damage (clearly little to none), Shake hands, move on with life - like a fucking 33 yr old adult

Instead, he pussies out and tries to drive over a bunch of them, scares the shit out of his wife (way to go to protect your family, arse face), then gets a minor beat down/ damage to his vehicle.

I really think common sense is lacking in people these days - especially when you have a wife and kid in the car to protect
Hindsight always 20/20.

Like Gridlock's story, some people are just wanting/looking for trouble. And that many guys, surrounding your car. To top it off, a big guy gets off his bike and walks towards you?

There are some people that would take your apology/handshake well, exchange info, and accept your humility for the rear ending.

Others? Well, they just like watching the world burn. These riders riding like they are, have a common interest. They love riding and already sort of bonds them.

Factor in rage, tunnel vision, mob mentality and this spells disaster for the Range Rover guy.
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But clearly trying to run didn't work - hence call the cops, and get their protection.
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Unlike the rest of us that's watched the video and had the time to process the event and then write about it, the driver only had about 10 seconds to make a basic physiological response/choice: fight or flight.

Fight: he's just be fucked around with (encircled by bikers, brake checked, and forced to stop in the middle of a highway). Stick around and try to reason with the rider and 100+ of his buddies??!!??! Mob mentality is not something I want to deal with, especially with my wife and child in tow.

Flight: run over a few bikes/bikers and get my family to safety. This is a reasonable response, given this situation.

If the driver's intentions were truly malicious, he could have destroyed half of the bikes in that video.
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On MSNBC they said the driver won't be charged, the bikers might be charged. They also mentioned that there might be civil suit against the bikers from the driver of the RR.
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Flight: run over a few bikes/bikers and get my family to safety. This is a reasonable response, given this situation.
the thing is he has nowhere to go with 100 fast bikes chasing him. he didn't stay for the police to arrive, instead he decided to flee and get stuck at a redlight and have the raged bikers smash his shit. not the smartest move by the SUV. Or he could drive straight to a police station.

he would have probably took less off a beating if he had just stayed to begin with and talked to the bikers, it wasn't like all the 100 bikers were attacking him, it was one guy who stopped him.

lucky no one died there.
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Dont Range Rovers have double paned glass? Didnt know it was that easy to smash
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double paned glass only has the benefit of insulating road noise and it doesn't fog up as quick -- definitely not any harder to break. Especially when your a fully grown man, full of adrenaline swinging a bike helmet
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Sounds about right. A pack of bikers surrounding your car.

Fuck that shit, I would floor it too. WTF, I'm going to wait around for them to rip me out of my car.

That was a stupid move on the biker to break check on the highway. Even dumber of the range to tap him.

At the end of the day, this shit show could have been adverted. But this is what happens when you put two idiots together.
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One stopping him and many others boxing him in. Bikers already seem enraged over something...I could only assume how mad they were once that idiot thought it'd be funny to break in front of the RR and got hit.
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People still think brake-checking is cool? Fucking idiots. Too bad Darwin didnt get them.
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All I can say is I'm glad the biker slowing down in front of the RR (on purpose, obviously) get hit. You wanna start shit then don't complain if you get your ass handed to you.
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Of course it's the black guys breaking the windows in the end


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would have done exactly the same.
But would have called the cops.

maybe get one of them stuck under the vehicle, and then build up some torque in the wheels and shoot off with them underneath the vehicle..
this is why people buy SUVs right?
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The driver did call 911.
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SEE IT: Pack of motorcyclists chase man in SUV, attack him on upper Manhattan street after fender bender turned hit-and-run on West Side Highway prompted by driver running over biker as he fled - NY Daily News
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I wonder if 911 told him to pull off the highway...

Shoulda kept driving.
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he had a slashed tire.. he had to pull off the highway
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Both driver and biker don't look they got good temper. just guessing, looking at the pics.

I m honestly just kinda glad the wife and daughter didn't get hurt.
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i would have done the same thing, except i probably would have ran over some more bikers just for the hell of it
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IMO, nothing good can come out of identifying the RR man and his wife. Somehow I doubt this is over in some of the bikers' minds, and they will continue to harass and go after him in his personal life.
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Bikers were idiots for the way they were riding

Driver was an idiot for not calling the cops and staying on the highway - get cops involved, apologize to rider you hit (yes it looks like he brake checked him, and this deserved it, but in the end of the day 50 retards on motorbikes - I think I'd take the high road), offer to pay for any damage (clearly little to none), Shake hands, move on with life - like a fucking 33 yr old adult

Instead, he pussies out and tries to drive over a bunch of them, scares the shit out of his wife (way to go to protect your family, arse face), then gets a minor beat down/ damage to his vehicle.

I really think common sense is lacking in people these days - especially when you have a wife and kid in the car to protect
I think you missed the part where a group started damaging his car and tried to pull him out. I doubt they were interested in shaking hands.
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brake checking on a motorcycle while a range rover is behind= retarded biker
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the thing is he has nowhere to go with 100 fast bikes chasing him.
That's true, but in the heat of the moment with adrenaline pumping and being completely surrounded (with your family in the car with you), anywhere is better than "here".

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.....it wasn't like all the 100 bikers were attacking him, it was one guy who stopped him.
The video showed that one biker brake checked, then he got hit. What happened next was all the bikers stopped. ALL OF THEM. Make no mistake about this. This was not a one-on-one encounter between a driver and a rider. It was the driver against all the bikers. He saw the potential for shit to get real bad. I can not blame the driver for fearing for his family and his own life.


If all the decision were made based on fact, logic and common sense, this probably wouldn't have happened. Cooler head would have prevailed. I mean, did the bikers really have to ride in all three lanes? The driver could have pulled over to the left lane and let the group pass. Again, hindsight is 20/20. Just glad no one died.

What really sucks is the child having to go through this ordeal
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I think you missed the part where a group started damaging his car and tried to pull him out. I doubt they were interested in shaking hands.
I think you missed what I wrote.

Call cops, everyone stops with the cops in control - you think there will be a beating with a bunch of cops in control (cops might do beating, different story)

Of course you wouldn't stop and try to shake hands without cops there, clearly this situation just got majorly out of control far too quick.
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