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Old 10-08-2013, 01:58 PM   #26
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I should really write up a Sticky post for this thread...me think you need to be a mod though...
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If you or Grid create a thread with all the useful info, I'll pin it up.
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This question is kind of after the fact but should I be providing manuals and stuff I got from the developers to my tenant?

i.e. appliance manuals and home owner manual
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For my personal property, I leave all the appliance manuals and provide a copy of the strata bylaws.

For our apartment building, we lease appliance manuals. As it is the responsibility of the tenants to replace light bulbs and fuses (which include fridges and ovens), it is good for them to know how to properly replace them.

As for home owner manual, it is up to you. Providing a copy probably doesn't hurt....maybe it will cut down on the emails/calls
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And under most strata bylaw, you are supposed to provide a copy of the bylaws for your tenant to read, follow, understand, be able to reproduce verbatim and provide to the tattoo artist to have imprinted upon their body.
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This question is kind of after the fact but should I be providing manuals and stuff I got from the developers to my tenant?

i.e. appliance manuals and home owner manual
Keep the original and provide copies or owner's manual (copy or URL) to the tenant.

Also bylaws should be required.

You definitely have a princess tenant and it's time to put on the daddy pants and be a dick around her.
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I don't mean to go off topic, but are there any ways throughout the interview process of prospective tenants to determine whether one is a princess or not? (Serious question)
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Gee, why didn't I think of that?
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I don't mean to go off topic, but are there any ways throughout the interview process of prospective tenants to determine whether one is a princess or not? (Serious question)
Look for a Channel purse

Seriously though, anyone who acts like they are doing you favour by moving in. I also stay away from those who ask:

-"Can I paint?" and turns up their nose when you say, "no"

-"Are you going to put in different appliances?"

-"Is it quiet?" and persistently insist that it needs to be silent 24/7. I have had someone almost make me swear on my life that it was quiet. That was enough of a red flag for me. You are going to hear noise...it is unavoidable.

-Anyone who asks you if items can be changes, ie: carpets, fixtures, counters, etc. Basically someone who wants you to renovate to their liking.

Honestly, you just need to get that feeling. After a while you can pick up on it...they walk around with their nose up, nothing seems to be good enough, etc.

OH, and....this is a big one....anyone who says, "I always have a professional cleaner come and clean the apartment before I move in because I don't trust your cleaners". Translation=nothing you ever do will be up to my standards.

I also like to give people guidelines for contacting me. I'll say, I am available between 9am and 5pm Monday to Friday for random issues. Anything above and beyond that is off-hours emergency call only, ie. fire, flood, major safety concern. This gives the tenant the impression that you are not at their beck and call. The same goes for emails....don't feel the need to respond right away. It is ok to wait until the next day during your "business" hours.
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DO NOT LET TENANTS PAINT.

Sorry...dino mentioned people painting and NEVER EVER EVER EVER let tenants paint. I don't care if Michelangelo himself wants to rent from you and says, "well yeah, I did this chapel that turned out ok" ...NO NO NO NO NO.

Other than that, Dino's post is spot on for princess spotting.

In general, also look for people that talk too much. Like, they are trying to snowball you with how great they are?

Ultimately, you are looking for people that have a normal conversation and seem to be "in the here and now" with you. They ask a question, you answer it and that inspires a new question or comment.

Basically, you need to rent to some shit a few times before you realize that you need to stop doing that
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DO NOT LET TENANTS PAINT.

Sorry...dino mentioned people painting and NEVER EVER EVER EVER let tenants paint. I don't care if Michelangelo himself wants to rent from you and says, "well yeah, I did this chapel that turned out ok" ...NO NO NO NO NO.
What paint horror happened?
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Ended up with a greek restaurant on crack. Bright blue, ceiling as well...and fuschia.

Another group painted our townhouse a nice baby poo brown.
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Furthermore, people always think painting is easy. "I don't mind painting, it will just take a couple hours, how hard can it be?!"

They will never prep the walls. They will never take face plates off. They will never use drop cloths. They will never cut properly around the ceiling. They will never paint a second coat. They will never pick nice colours. They will never purchase the proper supplies. They will always cut corners.
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If you or Grid create a thread with all the useful info, I'll pin it up.
In my humble opinion, Grid and Dino's contributions to H&H Renovations warrant them becoming the moderators of it (if they want to be). I see the potential impacts of such a move as nothing but positive.

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Grid would probably be better than I as he owns is own renovation company as well as managing properties. I just manage properties. He is more "well-rounded" for this sub-forum.

Plus, he has been a member of RS for 10 years and knows it better.
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this doens't jut go for painting, if they change anything or fix anything etc, they have the ability to sue you. this is the reason why i alwasy hire professional and insists on doing that and "i'll do the hardwood floors, you just pay me money".
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i know at work when we talk about small private projects and you hire a contractor there's always a concern that they have WCB. if they injure themselves or 'injure' *wink wink* themselves and are not WCB covered, they can go after you as the owner and you cover the bills.
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In general, also look for people that talk too much. Like, they are trying to snowball you with how great they are?

Basically, you need to rent to some shit a few times before you realize that you need to stop doing that
i think i got me one of those...tells me everything i want to hear to sign a contract but starting to be the opposite, lesson learned
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