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11-01-2013, 04:47 PM
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| Google and compant gets sued.... again Microsoft and Apple-owned company is suing Google, Samsung, HTC, LG and others Just when we thought things were getting too quiet on the patent front, we have a new development that is threatening to obliterate anything we've seen this far in terms of its scale. Apple and Microsoft-owned company Rockstar has filed a series of lawsuits against Google and its Android partners, including Asustek, HTC, Huawei, LG Electronics, Pantech, Samsung and ZTE. According to Rockstar, these all infringe on a total of 14 different patents it holds.
Rockstar Bidco, a consortium that includes companies like Apple, Microsoft, Sony, BlackBerry and Ericsson was formed back in 2011 with the aim of acquiring the vast patent portfolio of Nortel, a company which in its hay days employed nearly 100,000 people. The consortium had one big rival for the patent cache, Google, and it is now becoming obvious why the search giant wanted Nortel bad enough to offer up to $4.4 billion before dropping out of the race.
Seven of these patents strike at the very core of what made Google, and by far its biggest revenue stream: its search engine and advertising. The earliest of those dates to 1997, a year before Google was even founded, and AdWords in particular is going to be under fire.
In terms of the Android OEMs, the alleged patent infringements range from hardware, through graphical interface and the navigating of it, down to some network protocols.
This is purely speculative, but a number of people consider Google's subsequent Motorola acquisition to be related to the loss of Nortel's treasure troves of patents (about 6,000 of those!). The idea being that apart from getting its very own hardware company, it's also getting ownership of Motorola's vast portfolio of intellectual property. Google was probably hoping that such a situation would lead to a stalemate, as both sides would have more than enough valid lawsuits against each other. Doesn't seem like it, and the tricky part is that Google can't actually counter-sue the way Samsung did with Apple, since Rockstar doesn't really have any operations other than, apparently, patent trolling. Rockstar is technically an independent organization from Apple, Microsoft and the rest, though it's not too hard to imagine that Google might decide to go for a counter-attack.
The scale of this new development is impossible to gauge just yet (and probably not for a while, as these things always go down slowly), but there's the possibility of it dwarfing Apple's $1 billion worth of victory against Samsung in recent months. Unfortunately for Google, it'll have a pretty hard time defending itself in court, seeing as how close it was to actually assimilating Nortel's intellectual assets, and for a price, too. Rockstars lawyers aren't blind to this fact, and are reportedly specifically mentioning this in their complaint.
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11-01-2013, 06:33 PM
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Looks like there might be some panic selling of Google |
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11-03-2013, 07:53 AM
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Of course this was going to happen. Is a company (or group) going to pay billions for an IP portfolio of 6,000 patents and then just "donate" them to the rest of the world for free? Rockstar has spent the last year negotiating with numerous companies to license patents (outside of the patents that were already being licensed - pre-existing license agreements companies had with Nortel are still valid with Rockstar). It's obvious those negotiations failed with the companies involved and now they're going to let a court decide. Quote:
Doesn't seem like it, and the tricky part is that Google can't actually counter-sue the way Samsung did with Apple, since Rockstar doesn't really have any operations other than, apparently, patent trolling.
| Complete bull by the article writer. Obviously trying to call Rockstar a "patent troll" so they can then, by extension, call Apple, Microsoft and the rest of the consortium "patent trolls".
A "real" patent troll can't be sued since they don't manufacture products that you can open up and examine for possible infringement. A "real" patent troll has no affiliation with, or ownership by a company that makes products. You can't go up the ladder to the real owners who are pulling the strings and sue them.
This is not the case with Rockstar. Who owns Rockstar? Companies that make numerous products. There's nothing preventing anyone that Rockstar is suing from turning around and suing Apple, Microsoft or Sony over any patents they may infringe. Nobody is "hiding" behind Rockstar as everyone and their dog knows who's involved.
The reason Rockstar was formed is because Apple, MS, Sony, Ericsson and Blackberry needed a holding company so they could share ownership of the patents they bought. There is no other logical way for the patents to be divided up among all the owners than to form a patent holding company. To imply Rockstar was formed to do the "dirty work" for the owners is asinine.
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