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moldex 12-05-2013 06:37 PM

Line of credit
 
I was recently contacted by my bank about opening a line of credit. I would like to open one in case of emergencies however the rate they gave me was prime + 3.75%. Now I want to negotiate it down but what's a good way to do this? What's a reasonable rate to ask? A friend of mine has prime + .5 unsecured which is ridiculous. Would asking for prime + 1.5% be reasonable?

tiger_handheld 12-05-2013 07:26 PM

The higher the credit amount, lower the rate.

If you do all your business with that bank, use that as leverage.

What does your friend do that he has P+.5 as a rate?

Energy 12-05-2013 07:53 PM

Students usually have prime+.5 but that's on a professional student line of credit.

noclue 12-05-2013 08:08 PM

Wow your friend got a smoking deal.

I have prime + .5% but its on secured LOC with BMO. I have a huge credit limit though.

TypeRNammer 12-05-2013 08:43 PM

Wow that's a sick deal, I have prime + 3%

moldex 12-05-2013 08:54 PM

Should I bother going to another bank to get a quote? I don't want a credit check done

itsnick 12-06-2013 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moldex (Post 8376294)
Should I bother going to another bank to get a quote? I don't want a credit check done

You'll most likely be able to negotiate a better rate if:
1) You've been with the Financial Institution for a decent amount of years
2) Have good credit
3) Have multiple products/services/accounts at one FI.
4) Have a mortgage or a secure line of credit that bank can have collateral over.

lemon4 12-08-2013 05:42 AM

my staff rate is prime+1% :okay:

fuhkyu 12-08-2013 02:48 PM

I have a LOC with interest rate sitting at prime from CIBC, it was a promotional interest at the time not sure if its still available

knight604 12-08-2013 03:04 PM

I have prime +3 when I asked for 15k

d1 10-01-2015 05:58 PM

Anybody have a line of credit from a credit union? Would their rates typically be lower than the banks?

cdizzle_996 10-01-2015 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d1 (Post 8685528)
Anybody have a line of credit from a credit union? Would their rates typically be lower than the banks?

Im with Prospera.

I have a 30k LOC at prime + 1.75.

I have perfect credit, and a mortgage threw Prospera. I never really shopped around, or negotiated.

d1 10-01-2015 07:37 PM

Secured or Unsecured?

cdizzle_996 10-01-2015 07:40 PM

Unsecured

Jmac 10-01-2015 07:43 PM

I think mine is prime + 1% but I honestly don't know as I never use it. IIRC, I have a $25k limit.

d1 10-01-2015 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8685580)
I think mine is prime + 1% but I honestly don't know as I never use it. IIRC, I have a $25k limit.

Bank of credit union?

I only got offered prime + 3% @ RBC and I have been with them forever.

lowside67 10-02-2015 05:57 AM

As a BMO employee, we get basically the best rates that are possible for customers. My PLOC (unsecured) was setup at P+3.0% which I assume is the default for a walkin but was then adjusted to P+1.25%. Since they gave that to me, that means there are at least some customers who are also receiving this rate - though I don't work in a branch and have no idea what the qualifications might be.

Mark

a00755836 11-25-2015 04:39 PM

got mine prime + 3% at 15k at td. wanna try 30k in the near future.

Gh0stRider 11-25-2015 09:50 PM

shiet, mines like prime + 7% i think for 5k. I haven't use it in like 4-5 yrs.

dn53 11-26-2015 08:36 PM

Someone educate me, what is the difference between secured and unsecured?

Gtrr33 11-26-2015 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dn53 (Post 8702633)
Someone educate me, what is the difference between secured and unsecured?

well one is secure and the other is not.

4444 11-27-2015 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dn53 (Post 8702633)
Someone educate me, what is the difference between secured and unsecured?

if you have equity in a property you can use that as collateral, i.e. if you default on your LOC, the bank can claim against your property - because of this the bank's risk is much lower thus you will get a lower rate. Almost anyone with a pulse and equity in a property can get a LOC at prime + 0.5% up to about 80% LTV (means you must have >20% equity always - this may be out dated LTV information)

unsecured LOC aren't great as the bank has little recourse if you don't pay back (as in, they can't encumber an asset, of course they will actually have legal recourse) - they are loaning to you based on your income to pay back the LOC = higher risk = higher rate, as we're seeing in this thread.

A couple of reasons why secured LOC's are great:
- Cheap immediate money
- No need to actually hold a 6 month emergency fund if you're an investor (you can invest almost all your excess cash), as any short term emergencies can be covered by a cheap LOC
- You can use funds to invest and deduct the interest against the investment income (there's a thing called a smith maneuver which is basically paying off your mortgage then immediately taking out money on your LOC (as your mortgage gets paid down, the amount of available LOC increases) to invest in, say, equities... for some reason people think this is a god send... it's not, it's a nice tax tool, it's not the secret fountain of financial freedom - hard work, saving/investing your money every month and living within your means is the real secret... and very few actually know about this one)

ok, i've digressed.

Adorkami 11-27-2015 02:17 PM

Mine is with Vancity, secured at P +1% for 150k, when i renew my mortgage the person I spoke with talked about lowering my LoC rate. It's a lot cheaper to use the LoC to pay off credit cards immediately if you don't have the funds available.


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