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12-19-2013, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Rich Sandor  I love my 2011 F150 5.0L | How much do you love your non-adjustable headrest angle??? lol Worst design ever. (2012 introduced adjustable headreat angle)
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12-19-2013, 09:12 AM
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#27 | | Diagonally parked in a parallel universe
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I've got a 2012 F150 Eco-boost, love it.
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12-19-2013, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jasonturbo How much do you love your non-adjustable headrest angle??? lol Worst design ever. (2012 introduced adjustable headreat angle) | I have no problem whatsoever with my headrest. Nor have I ever heard anyone else complain about it.
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12-19-2013, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich Sandor I have no problem whatsoever with my headrest. Nor have I ever heard anyone else complain about it. | Well then you are one of the few that didnh't hate them, there is a reason Ford made them adjustable for 2012+... https://www.google.ca/search?q=f150+...ddress&spell=1
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12-19-2013, 01:50 PM
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12-19-2013, 02:07 PM
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Ford and Dodge transmission designs are licensed from ZF. I would stay away from first year anything in general.. that includes the Dodge.
With DI, you use less fuel. But because the vapour is finer, it actually get further into your skin / mucus linings so there are more potential to do more harm than before. Quote:
Originally Posted by jackal but seriously, i'm a ford guy. i really don't trust the reliability of the chevy and dodge offerings. dodge has never built a decent transmission for their trucks and having 8 gears just screams more things to go wrong to me. | | |
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12-19-2013, 02:22 PM
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With DI, you use less fuel. But because the vapour is finer, it actually get further into your skin / mucus linings so there are more potential to do more harm than before.
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12-19-2013, 06:45 PM
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100000kms in on our dodge ram and not one single problem.
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12-19-2013, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jackal even though i am a ford guy, i wouldn't buy a first model year truck from any manufacturer.
as for running a diesel in a 1/2 tone truck. it makes no sense. diesel is tipically a lot more maintenance and the engines are designed to move really heavy loads. loads probably bigger then the frame and axles can handle. if your looking at a 1/2 ton and feel you NEED a diesel then you probably should be looking at something bigger.
not to mention they are also usually a really expensive upgrade.
on a side note, spent the day ripping around in the new truck. loving it so far. it's SO much quieter then my previous 05 fx4. i'll snap a couple pics in the daylight tomorrow. | im not disagreeing with you. but the ram ecodiesel for example is a small v6, i dont think its designed for towing heavy loads so much as it is for better fuel economy with similar capability to a v8.
if diesels were so much more expensive than why do most pickups/suvs outside of north america have diesels. in europe many cars even have diesels.
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12-19-2013, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jasonturbo I don't know that I can agree with this, from what I have seen it's more like the initial cost is higher for comparable import and as such the used sale price is also higher, I think they depreciate at a similar rate.
... except for those old ass tacoma's... man people spend way too much on those things lol | I bought my 2013 Tundra with 60km's on it, loaded, for 42K$ taxes in.
and ya, those old tacomas are ridiculous :/
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12-19-2013, 10:20 PM
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went to barnes wheaton chrysler on scott road and 64thish and nobody would even talk to me  Do salesman not realize its worth while to give a card to everybody that walks in
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12-19-2013, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by vitaminG im not disagreeing with you. but the ram ecodiesel for example is a small v6, i dont think its designed for towing heavy loads so much as it is for better fuel economy with similar capability to a v8.
if diesels were so much more expensive than why do most pickups/suvs outside of north america have diesels. in europe many cars even have diesels. |
i tried to find what the cost of that ecodiesel but couldn't even find it on ramtruck.ca but assuming it's like a 1k option plus the increase cost in diesel fuel how could you justify going that route even if it gets a couple l/100km better mileage?
and you can't compare europe vs NA there are very good economic and governmental policy reasons why there are so many diesel vehicles in europe vs NA. and it definitely doesn't mean that diesels are better then gas engines.
edit: i found an unconfirmed magazine review that said the ecodiesel is a 4k upgrade... http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t-drive-review
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12-19-2013, 10:49 PM
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#39 | | 2x Variable Nockenwellen Steuerung
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Because places in Europe their Diesel is subsidized, not to mention their diesel is from the Middle East which makes them to have less sulfur by default (vs our Alberta crude).. too bad we can't get Bakken stuff here. Quote:
Originally Posted by vitaminG if diesels were so much more expensive than why do most pickups/suvs outside of north america have diesels. in europe many cars even have diesels. | | |
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12-27-2013, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jackal i tried to find what the cost of that ecodiesel but couldn't even find it on ramtruck.ca but assuming it's like a 1k option plus the increase cost in diesel fuel how could you justify going that route even if it gets a couple l/100km better mileage?
and you can't compare europe vs NA there are very good economic and governmental policy reasons why there are so many diesel vehicles in europe vs NA. and it definitely doesn't mean that diesels are better then gas engines.
edit: i found an unconfirmed magazine review that said the ecodiesel is a 4k upgrade... 2014 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel V-6 First Drive ? Review ? Car and Driver | 4k over the v6 which is not even comparable in terms of power and torque. its 2800 over the v8, its 22 mpg combined vs 16 for hemi, diesel is about 1.45 vs 1.28 for gas. so at 20k per year is 1318 for diesel and 1600 for gas so pays for itself in 9 years or so. higher resale probaly offset by higher maintenance cost.
sp assuming my math is correct then id have the say the diesel is not really worth it.
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12-27-2013, 03:03 PM
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#41 | | 2x Variable Nockenwellen Steuerung
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Maintenance will be lower assuming there are no design issues like oil leaks etc.. no need for O2 sensors by itself should make life easier. Quote:
Originally Posted by vitaminG 4k over the v6 which is not even comparable in terms of power and torque. its 2800 over the v8, its 22 mpg combined vs 16 for hemi, diesel is about 1.45 vs 1.28 for gas. so at 20k per year is 1318 for diesel and 1600 for gas so pays for itself in 9 years or so. higher resale probaly offset by higher maintenance cost.
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12-27-2013, 03:58 PM
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If you think a diesel truck engine is going to have less maintenance costs than a gas truck engine you need to think again man........ holy balls........... ask any guy with a F350 or Cummins Dodge what his maintenance bills are.
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12-27-2013, 04:33 PM
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#43 | | 2x Variable Nockenwellen Steuerung
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You are missing the equivalency..
This is a 3L diesel at least compare it with a same class and weight.
If you use F350 and Cummins as expensive to mantain, I can throw the VW TDI as cheaper to maintain too... or the Volvo DH12C as expensive too. Heavy duty diesel mechanics exist for a reason. Quote:
Originally Posted by 68style If you think a diesel truck engine is going to have less maintenance costs than a gas truck engine you need to think again man........ holy balls........... ask any guy with a F350 or Cummins Dodge what his maintenance bills are. | | |
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12-27-2013, 05:13 PM
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#44 | | Where's my RS Christmas Lobster?!
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My 2011 F350 6.7L powerstroke the oil change + tire rotation ran into $180 after tax at a ford dealer. Plus another $20 for the urea fluid.
My 2013 F150 3.5L ecoboost the oil change + tire rotation is $80 after tax at a ford dealer.
Keep in mind that a diesel engine can go longer between service intervals.
Not too bad considering a C-class oil change is $250.
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