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Want to know source of the found lost hijacked plane in africa
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a 30yr+ flight experience Captain + a Fmr. Inspector General of Transportation on CNN currently are saying the data is inaccurate because the speed of changes in altitude and direction are impossible

I assume you're talking about Mary. She's been consistent with the notion that it was a mechanical failure rather than terrorism or sabotage.

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Originally Posted by Lord Disick (Post 8436013)

I think he's trying to point out that the plane flew a specific flight path so that wouldn't be in line with a mechanical issue.

Exactly, that's supposed to come from pings off satellites IIRC. The red line is the planes path, the black lines are flight routes and the little triangles are waypoints.

There's also other reports that supposedly involve the planes altitude, saying that after the transponder stopping it shot up to 45,000 (41,500 is supposed to be the max a pilot is allowed to take it to) briefly and turned around, then dropped down to 30,000 or something, stayed there for a while, then dropped to 23,000 for a bit followed by a jump back up. But according to some pilots the rates of change sounded outside the realm of possibility for the airframe.

(apologies for the inaccuracies of the above, I'm running off of memory here, the page where I read that is open on a different PC)

I don't know if it is the same data that I saw. But the radar recording I saw said the plane reached 48 000'. I'd say that is coming up on impossible, not too mention above the airplanes service ceiling. Especially with 5+ hours of fuel onboard. But I could be wrong.

The numbers are spitballed from memory, the important bit is that it went to a crazy altitude and made a lot of jumps, but between most of those jumps it stayed level. I'm assuming this altitude data is on a separate route from the one I posted earlier, it sounds more like something a military training flight would be doing though (the altitude jumps)

Here's the site that's been getting a tonne of posts, there's a lot of pilots on here so there's good info, but it's a lot of reading. I think the stuff on the altitude jumps was thread 20 or 21 MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 24 — Civil Aviation Forum | Airliners.net

They have a very good summary at the top of every thread for those wanting a Coles Notes.

edit: found the initial altitude info

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Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 experienced significant changes in altitude after it lost contact with ground control, and altered its course more than once as if still under the command of a pilot, American officials and others familiar with the investigation said Friday.

Radar signals recorded by the Malaysian military appear to show the missing airliner climbing to 45,000 feet, above the approved altitude limit for a Boeing 777-200, soon after it disappeared from civilian radar and made a sharp turn to the west, according to a preliminary assessment by a person familiar with the data.

The radar track, which the Malaysian government has not released but says it has provided to the United States and China, then shows the plane descending unevenly to an altitude of 23,000 feet, below normal cruising levels, as it approached the densely populated island of Penang, one of the country’s largest. There, the plane turned from a southwest-bound course, climbed to a higher altitude and flew northwest over the Strait of Malacca toward the Indian Ocean.

Investigators have also examined data transmitted from the plane’s Rolls-Royce engines that shows it descending 40,000 feet in the space of a minute, according to a senior American official briefed on the investigation. But investigators do not believe the readings are accurate because the aircraft would likely haven taken longer to fall such a distance.

“A lot of stock cannot be put in the altitude data” sent from the engines, one official said. “A lot of this doesn’t make sense.”

It doesn't sound as solid as the other route tracking report tho.

edit 2: Sounds like the altitude info is along the same route as posted before. From the NYTime article http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/15/wo...adar.html?_r=0

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I keep checking this thread for updates, in the hope that the plane/passengers have been located.

I have to admit that I'm kind of dumbfounded that in this day and age, something that big, carrying that many people, can be missing for this long.

First of all, they are not giving back enough information to the public nor to their Families. They identify 3 glowing objects suspended in the air while the plane was still flying for 4 hours. They obviously got abducted by extratessrials, there has been many documentaries in the past where fighter jets get abducted or encounter a UFO. The plane obviously got an EMP attack, then it obviously got transfer somewhere. The plane can't fly anymore due to low fuel. If they can't find it for 1 week, even a month. It is considered an abduction.

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Originally Posted by NeoDestinyZ (Post 8436132)

They identify 3 glowing objects suspended in the air while the plane was still flying for 4 hours.

??????????????

CNN has yet more stupid claims, unbelievable

^ one I agreed with was General Spyder Marks's comments on why did they immediately dismiss so quickly that those Iranians were simply trying to seek asylum and why they aren't deeply looking deeper at the all passengers' profiles.

Via CKNW:

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A Malaysian government official has told the Associated Press the government has concluded the missing Boeing 777 was hijacked. The official told the AP hijacking is no longer a theory, but "conclusive." The official says a motive isn't clear at this stage, and it's unclear where the plane was headed.

heard it was sucked into a black hole

^
All over twitter right now, the report was from the AP and one source said they don't know if the plane actually crashed or it landed somewhere. They also said there's 600 airports in the area that can accommodate a 777.

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Originally Posted by Lord Disick (Post 8436123)

FYI:

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oh ffs RS is the last place I want to see those tables
i'm out :suspicious:

supposedly a press conference is imminent from Malaysia that will confirm its a hijacking. Am watching 20/20 and it was interrupted to report that

if it was hijacked by experts who would know how to turn off the equipment and have the skill to fly a 777 then surely they would have the knowledge of fuel levels and how far/where they could fly, so how/why would it have crashed?

a mechanical error also? (what are the odds of that?!)

shot down by Malaysia but they're keeping it secret? and wants everyone to believe it crashed?

Or have they gotten away?

Fucking makes me sick how slow these Malaysian officials are. Took a week to figure out it's a hijack and it actually flew else where. I actually hope those people are dead. Who the hell know what kind of torutre or sex slave those people would be sold in to if they actually landed somewhere.

I also wonder if terrorist bought out one of the pilots
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press conference about to start on BBC

and its the Prime Minister who will come out to speak!

Just throwing it out there, I think it's mentioned some where that it wasn't until 5 or more hours later till Malaysia Airline had a press release that they lost contact with the plane, which coincidentally, was the same amount of time that people are speculating that the plane was still active after disappearing from civilian radar.

I'm not sure if there are protocols as to when the airline has to release a press to alert the public of the situation.

It's a improbable and retarded theory, but it would be super crazy if the Malaysia Airline actually knew something all along.

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Originally Posted by EmperorIS (Post 8436197)

Fucking makes me sick how slow these Malaysian officials are. Took a week to figure out it's a hijack and it actually flew else where.

Let's not forget there's been at least a dozen other nations and numerous aviation authorities in on the search, as well as the plane and engine manufacturers, and who knows who else working on this in an "official" capacity, and ALL of them have been just as stumped.

Hope to god that a miracle happened and the plane landed with all of those people still alive :(

Where is the best source for accurate news?