very well summarized. lol

i think the main issue is that the opposing forces of this debate cannot understand the fact that they may never show up, and are willing to bank their entire emotional energy on the chance that things will turn out the way they want it to be.

I'm saying cover your asses. you have to accept all ultimate outcomes.

anyway reamemiya said it good.

^+1

I get that, but wanting answers within a couple of weeks of a tragedy happening, and still clinging to wanting those answers ten years later are not the same thing. The concept that time means nothing is ludicrous. Sorry but Ulic makes it seem like moving on a day after a tragedy or years later is just as easy, but it's not.
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Oh for the love of... yes, moving on is ultimately determined by the individual, but you can't just flip a switch and move on. It's not a choice it's a process, and for most people knowing what happened to someone makes it a hell of a lot easier. I don't think anyone said anything about blaming others for not being able to move on. You can't blame them, but you can certainly thank them if they bring you answers and help with the process.

i didnt say it's just as easy

i said the strategy and method is the same. so knowing immediately after the incident, is better than knowing later.

like i said, awareness. and KNOWING is important. regardless of time. because at the end of the day, you have to walk that path.

it's like saying you'd rather start looking for a map when you're already lost, rather than having a map just as you start the journey. you don't have to look at the map, but it's always good to have it and know how to use it and how it works BEFORE you head out on your quest. all it does is reduce your risk of getting more fucked up.

and yes, you can flip a switch and move on. maybe not if it's your first time. but if it's happened to you before. and it's happened again. i can gaurentee you, you'll try to reduce the time of your greiving the second, or third etc... time it happens to you again.

and for a small percentage, they are able to run the scenarios in their head so that they can do it the first time it happens to them.
not everyone needs to learn by pain. some people can learn by forcing themselves to do what hurts before it happens.

like hondaracers dad said, he'd say RIP to his own son after 2 days. he says that, but he might not feel it, but at least it's already in his mind, half molded, and he just has to believe it a little more. whereas the rest of you, the idea isn't even implanted in your heads. and good luck trying to implant that idea into your head AFTER the incident. you are totally unprepared mentally. and there's no way you can adapt when you're emotionally distraught.

that's all im saying. and for whatever reason, only a small number of people can understand it.

i'm not the type of asshole that would say "fuck it, they don't get it, fuck them, im better than them, so i'll just walk away and IGNORE them!"

I will keep lecturing. whether you wanna listen or not. cuz i know someone is listening, and it will benefit someone. and if i can benefit those who listen, that's good enough for me.

Lol what self respecting man uses a map before they get lost

Anyways this is getting redundant, I see your views you see mine
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anyway reamemiya said it best, and any rebuttle should be directed to his comment. cuz that's what i ultimately mean.

as for redundancy, all debates are "redundant". that is the meaning of debate, to argue back and forth. an excersize for the brain. no different than kumon LOL.

if you want pragmatic results, kick over the debate podium and you go to war and you physically subdue the opponent... i don't think we're ready to go to war over this little difference of ideologies... but im sure as hell ready to debate the hell out of it.

AWARENESS?? Just exactly what are you making them aware of?

Friend: I'm depressed, my mother just passed away.

Ulic: Did you know... that you can get over this.

Friend: Well no shit I can. But She just passed away yesterday, it will take some time.

Ulic: Yes I know, but I'm just giving you awareness that you have an option to get over this. In fact, you should do it right now. With enough training, you won't even feel a thing when close friends/family die next time. That is when you have mastered strong willpower.

:concentrate:

I wonder if the majority of the 328 Failed Posts from Ulic has come from this thread.

No, he's this ridiculous everywhere.

Malaysia Airlines MH370: black box ping detected

CNN gonna lost their shit with this one.

It started.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/05/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

In honor of today being one month since the disappearance of MH370, we have:

The depth of the problem - The Washington Post

:fulloffuck:

Of course, this has been a problem from the start for this search, with people simply having no concept of the vastness of the area to be covered.

recovering black box is one thing...just odd there's no debris to be found.

even the air france from 2009 had debris located within 2 weeks...and black box 2 years later.

cool link...didn't' realize it took them 73 years to find the Titanic

It was that long before they even had the technology to find Titanic, let alone get anywhere close to it.

Considering the depth of the ocean where they're searching, and the sub-surface currents, anything that could float would probably be far from the final resting place by the time it reached the surface, especially if parts were breaking off as it went down. Depending on how it impacted, a large chunk of the plane could be on the bottom, meaning not a lot of debris making its way to the surface.

5th ping coming from the same area where the first one was detected. I guess that's the latest news so far?
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They're saying the ping from Thursday isn't from the black box but they know the approximate area where the pings that is from the black box is coming from.

Oh my...

wtf :derp:

I don't know which is stupider: firing the guy over these complaints... or people who actually took the time to complain about the way he dressed.

Anyone who complained about how he was dressed should be smacked for caring about how he looks. He's a pilot not a fucking model.

i will say i thought he looked rather comical/unprofessional with the way he has been dressed (earlier on anyhow i don't know if he spruced up a bit as ive long since stopped watching) but then i just dismissed it as "whatever" nevertheless it was surprising that he kept up with that look

it's also surprising to me that there were complaints from outside though... i would have thought if there would be any it would be from within his own company

let this be a lesson to all who think appearances don't matter.

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they do.

Love that the CNN talking heads can dress nice and then blather on endlessly about utter bullshit, while a professional who presumably know what he's talking about gets outright slammed because of the way he dresses :fulloffuck: