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heleu 09-28-2020 04:46 PM

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van...204691768.html
2001 Porsche 911 Turbo - MANUAL! - $40,000 (Yaletown)

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Reduced price due to a couple maintenance related items that may be required on the car. Please let me know if you're interested or would like additional information.
It's probably $20K below market value. I'm guessing it needs a new engine or something if this is real.

van_driver 09-28-2020 05:07 PM

Anyone have experience with drive motorsports in Richmond? Went in to see a car they had listed on autotrader without a price. Got there and it was parked on the showroom floor but the salesman said it’s not for sale ��

The Producer 09-28-2020 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by van_driver (Post 9000870)
Anyone have experience with drive motorsports in Richmond? Went in to see a car they had listed on autotrader without a price. Got there and it was parked on the showroom floor but the salesman said it’s not for sale ��

that's some bush league stealershop tactics if they're just trying to get you in the door. buy the seller applies to dealerships too - I'd happily avoid a shop that does this.

which car?

JDMDreams 09-28-2020 05:57 PM

I'm not sure what's with mazdas but older ones are pretty much worth nothing. Look at mazda speed 3 or 6. Maybe because they like to rust?

immorality 09-28-2020 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JDMDreams (Post 9000875)
I'm not sure what's with mazdas but older ones are pretty much worth nothing. Look at mazda speed 3 or 6. Maybe because they like to rust?

My wife had a Mazda3 and I used to have a Mazdaspeed6, and the biggest problem with both cars was shit paint, which leads to rust. Neither of our cars were "80's Japanese car rusty", but both had lots of rock chips that would lead to small spots of surface rust.

twitchyzero 09-28-2020 09:08 PM

if rock chips go deep enough on steel hood better to put clear coat/lacquer if you dont want micro surface rust

dont think it's specific to mazda...i've seen in toyota, suzuki etc.

Suprarz666 09-28-2020 09:18 PM

Mazda paint is generally thinner than most other manufacturers

EvoFire 09-28-2020 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JHatta (Post 9000851)
This has the potential to be a good deal, or a shit one. Need more photos and history on the car (220K is quite high)

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Originally Posted by JDMDreams (Post 9000875)
I'm not sure what's with mazdas but older ones are pretty much worth nothing. Look at mazda speed 3 or 6. Maybe because they like to rust?

The MS6 is known to rust on the leading edge of the hood because the way the hood is stamped, moisture gets trapped under the fold and rusts out from inside. Hoods are hard to source because they didn't make that many of them.

The other weak point is the rear diff. The diff itself is ok, but because the mounts are made of tofu and when it moves around it grinds itself to bits, especially when you put a lot of power through it.

Some expensive bits like the keyless entry credit card remote, same thing as the RX-8. Weak aftermarket. Carbon'ed valves that could probably use a cleaning, by extension also the injectors could be cleaned as well. Zoom-zoom-boom if you aren't careful with it.

Otherwise it's ok, no major major weak points imo, typical Ford era Mazda stuff, minor electronics. The seats suck, way too flat and designed for fat people.

If you want a decent AWD manual 4 door, it's one of the few you can choose from.

68style 09-28-2020 09:37 PM

I wanted a MS6 so bad back when... test drove a few... almost bought a few... but every time I test drove it, I couldn't get over the non-recirculating turbo system... the fact it vents to atmosphere in every gear change and the turbo has to spool back up again made pretty much every at-speed 1-2 shift jerky as anything...

It might be okay if you're not used to anything else, but like my MR2 recirculates so the turbo doesn't lose spool in between gears...

Also the clutch engagement on every MS6 I drove was tricky as hell... unnecessarily high engagement point and grabs like a mofo, almost no give before the bite point... and the interior of that era Mazda6 is pretty shit, passable but not very nice surfaces to touch. Flat seats like someone mentioned.

I still have a soft spot for it though, keep my eye out for a decent one. They're getting super rare now though.

EvoFire 09-28-2020 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9000925)
I wanted a MS6 so bad back when... test drove a few... almost bought a few... but every time I test drove it, I couldn't get over the non-recirculating turbo system... the fact it vents to atmosphere in every gear change and the turbo has to spool back up again made pretty much every at-speed 1-2 shift jerky as anything...

It might be okay if you're not used to anything else, but like my MR2 recirculates so the turbo doesn't lose spool in between gears...

Also the clutch engagement on every MS6 I drove was tricky as hell... unnecessarily high engagement point and grabs like a mofo, almost no give before the bite point... and the interior of that era Mazda6 is pretty shit, passable but not very nice surfaces to touch. Flat seats like someone mentioned.

I still have a soft spot for it though, keep my eye out for a decent one. They're getting super rare now though.

It vents to atmosphere? That's new to me, the MS3 with almost the same engine recircs.

I like them too, especially in Black Cherry Mica, too bad it's US only. Almost pulled the trigger on a BCM that was imported, and another one that was white pearl as well. Ended up with a MS3.

68style 09-28-2020 11:42 PM

Maybe the ones I drive had a BOV? I heard it anyway... have to admit I didn’t research it though.

I also love the black cherry mica <3

bcrdukes 09-29-2020 05:57 AM

Living here in Ontario for the past four years, my general observation is of all Japanese manufacturers, Mazda is the absolute worst and most notorious for rust, then Subaru, and Honda. Not very many Nissans on the road here.

A colleague of mine had her Mazda 3 (brand new) rust in a a matter of 3 years. Silly girl trade it in, got a CX-3, and is already rusting. :facepalm:

320icar 09-29-2020 08:15 AM

Now that you guys mention it, if I ever had a 4 year old rust bucket from Ontario come in the shop it was ALWAYS a mazda 3

bcrdukes 09-29-2020 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by bcrdukes (Post 9000947)
Not very many Nissans on the road here.

I take this back, and should clarify.

There are a lot of Nissans on the road that are typically no more than three years old. It's rare to see anything over 5 years on the road for a Nissan because they either rust, or suffer from general mechanical failures, and/or lack of maintenance, leading to people dumping them and leasing a new one in a few years. Same for Infiniti.

Lots of Toyota and Lexus here, but almost never rust, unless there was an obvious accident. There's a Gen 2 Prius in my condo that's rusting, but to be fair, the owner told me he has 650,000km on it, so, yeah.

underscore 09-29-2020 11:56 AM

When I briefly lived in Ontario I'll never forget seeing an XTerra around that was only a couple years old and the hatch already had rust everywhere. It was actually impressive in a way.

EvoFire 09-29-2020 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9000935)
Maybe the ones I drive had a BOV? I heard it anyway... have to admit I didn’t research it though.

I also love the black cherry mica <3

If it was swapped to atmosphere and untuned, then yeah it would definitely drive like shit. The BPV on the stock DISI motors typically leak when you put more boost in as well.

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Originally Posted by bcrdukes (Post 9000947)
Living here in Ontario for the past four years, my general observation is of all Japanese manufacturers, Mazda is the absolute worst and most notorious for rust, then Subaru, and Honda. Not very many Nissans on the road here.

A colleague of mine had her Mazda 3 (brand new) rust in a a matter of 3 years. Silly girl trade it in, got a CX-3, and is already rusting. :facepalm:

Oh that definitely, but many makes have a hard time in Ontario. Even if the body may look good, it could be a complete wreck underneath. Early Mazda3s were definitely notorious to rust, especially Winning Blue for some reason.

impreza_scott 09-30-2020 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bcrdukes (Post 9000947)
Living here in Ontario for the past four years, my general observation is of all Japanese manufacturers, Mazda is the absolute worst and most notorious for rust, then Subaru, and Honda. Not very many Nissans on the road here.

A colleague of mine had her Mazda 3 (brand new) rust in a a matter of 3 years. Silly girl trade it in, got a CX-3, and is already rusting. :facepalm:

I believe In the early 2000s Mazda used recycled metals to try and save costs which led to a lot of their cars rusting, especially the Mazda Protégés.

SumAznGuy 09-30-2020 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by impreza_scott (Post 9001135)
I believe In the early 2000s Mazda used recycled metals to try and save costs which led to a lot of their cars rusting, especially the Mazda Protégés.

Look for a 1990 Miata in white that has the original white paint. Very hard to find that isn't repainted.

jaaagman 09-30-2020 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 9001145)
Look for a 1990 Miata in white that has the original white paint. Very hard to find that isn't repainted.

In general I would avoid NA6's in white or silver. They have a tendency to chip and have chunks of paint fall off.

bcuzracecarz 09-30-2020 05:14 PM

Mazda was one of my first jobs back in the day when the Speed 3 and 6 came out, basically learned to drive manual on them. Definitely one of the most tricky and finicky manual trannys out there, 68style was bang on in his description. Most of the points have been addressed, definitely look at the rear diff if interested, known to be weaksauce. Still love them, cheap speed for sure

TopsyCrett 10-01-2020 10:14 AM

Clean E320. If you can't do beige on beige it ain't for you Lol.

https://images.craigslist.org/00U0U_...v_1200x900.jpg

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van...202362623.html

OG owner CB7 Accord, 5 speed ! No rust

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van...206049191.html

https://images.craigslist.org/00N0N_...2_1200x900.jpg

Traum 10-01-2020 10:16 AM

link for the Accord?

TopsyCrett 10-01-2020 10:47 AM

^ Fixed

320icar 10-01-2020 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jaaagman (Post 9001151)
In general I would avoid NA6's in white or silver. They have a tendency to chip and have chunks of paint fall off.

Can confirm. My white paint on the 1990 NA ripped off when I peeled off painters tape. Insane

mb_ 10-01-2020 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rps13 (Post 9000423)

That's my old car. Looks like it's sold and last list price was $6,500.

Rebuilt title from the original engine catching fire according to the previous owner before me and he swapped in another 3S-GTE so if seller was trying to say rebuilt title is from front end damage, that's not the case but it could have had front end damage after I sold it since it was about 5 and a half years ago.


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