They are pretty horrible to drive as a daily. The turbo doesn't make power until 3.5k rpm and the trunk is tiny. It's a good car when you have enough road to blast around though. The Type R is a better all around car

Also Mitsubishi has fragile paint so it's best to at least clear bra the front end to prevent rock chips.

They aren't bad, kinda a pig on gas and the tank isn't that big, like 60l? I think. You're pretty much undefeatable in corners doe in any weather which is handy in Vancouver :fullofwin:

As someone who was in the market for any 45K fun, dual-duty car, the Evo X (and a 370z for that matter) was ruled out cause I couldn't justify the shit interior quality for that kind of money. Arguably, a 10K e36 m3 or E46 has better interior quality than these cars.

This specific car is for a very specific buyer, who are not usually the same as FK8 buyers. FK8 buyers are like Golf R buyers. They want to be able to track, but it's gonna be 90% daily. Which on that spectrum, both cars are very emotionless - it's like a really good precision tool. It does the job with no drama.

Man I miss my BMWs.

Further to the trunk thing, I fit an extra large shovel and 6 bags of de-icer with no drama in the Type R. I've also heard of some people fitting two sets of tires&wheels as well. Or maybe it was just tires.

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They are both great cars, chances are if you are buying a Type R or Evo, you've somewhat accepted a harsher more performance oriented drive.

The Evo from what I recall was faster on a track and has AWD, so it depends what you are looking for in a daily and how prepared you are to be uncomfortable.

Looks like the ad price was bumped from 45k to 50k now.

^ I wouldn't do either for $50K ... I feel like a broken record. For that money ... I'd get a 2018/19 Golf R and have coin to spare.

What would the Evo or Civic Type R have that the Golf R doesn't ... for less?

If it was an evo 9, I’d say some character and rarity, but not in the 10s case. They are all good cars, but an R just seems better, and easier.

I still have nightmares of when I worked at Mitsubishi back in 2007 when the X came out. Interior trim falling off closing doors, if you rubbed the console wrong it scratched, rear seats don’t fold down. Such an impractical car for what customer it was aimed at.

^ that sounds like every gen of evo :lawl:

My old Evo V was exactly that but loved driving the thing.

The MK7.5 R's interior quality and infotainment was great. I loved being in that car. Trunk was a little small tho. It had ACC and lane keep, but it didn't matter. The manual transmission in that thing sucked balls and all I've experienced was BMW (which is known to be the absolute worst).

The only reason I chose a Type R over the Golf R is because the manual transmission was significantly better than the Golf R's. Both are numb, but the Type R was just better to shift and clutch engagement was better as well.

I'd have stuck with German cars if it felt right. They were both same price and VW Richmond was willing to negotiate on the price. Speaking of which, AJ at Cowell VW (Richmond) was a great person to work with. Probably one of the best dealership experiences I've had. Great service, no bullshit. I can't say the same about Destination Honda lol.

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^ Nothing that a Thule box or a rear hitch can't fix ...and DSG :lol.

From what I've read, the R clutch assembly is a parts bin from the GTI, which in itself was notoriously shit even on stock GTI power. So you're already pushing an already on the limit clutch even more with the power difference. There's aftermarket solutions obviously, but who the hell would make the first mod a clutch upgrade when the R is already better out of the box like you said?

I've owned an Evo X, and an E36, and the Evo is WAY nicer inside. I had the SSS package, and the Audio system sounded great.

I also LOVED the Recaros in there. Best seats I've owned not counting the ones in the Lotus.

Yes, there's some plastic but at least it isn't glossy.

The cheapness that bothered me was on all the clips and fasteners. I felt like they were going to break every time I did anything under the hood. Also, no fold down rear seats really sucked if you wanted to go skiing.

The main reason why I got rid of it (after 4 years) was how slow it was off the line in traffic. Unless you dropped the clutch it just didn't go anywhere until you were doing 15km/h. That, and I had 3 cars and just one parking space.

edit: 50k? Holy shit.. I think I bought mine almost new for 30k CAD down in LA.. I sold it for something like $25 with 23,000km on the clock.

I was looking at the 7.5R and wife said it looked like an old man's car :sleepingzz:

That and I was coming from a MS3 and she's like, it's the same form factor in that it's a 5 seat hatch/short wagon while the R is smaller and slightly less practical in terms of cargo room. Why are you buying the same car?

Since I wanted a manual and the clutch was known to go if you even sneezed at it, plus wife would drive it and potentially ride the clutch a bit more, it wasn't gonna happen.

rocking the mk7 R with DSG.

probably the swiss army knife of hatch backs.

so nice to daily and adequately fast. that LKA stuff is weird af though. Could use just a hair more power and thats about it.

only thing I hate so far is the brake hold and its jerky when it goes into reverse... otherwise a pretty solid hatchback imo.

Was strongly considering the FK8, but I don't want to drive stick on my commute.... and the MK7 flies under the radar better than the FK8 (saved my ass on hwy 1 a few times already)

I would love the Golf R in a wagon format. It's available in other markets but not here. The hatch design just doesn't have enough room for family needs.

yeah, the standard car's short fall is I don't find the trunk deep enough for cargo.

It just fits the length of a standard recycling box.

Just pretend it's 10 years ago, that way you can also feel 10 years younger :troll:

can confirm it's a swiss army knife in the snow :lawl:

cc @DEADBEA7

Some have tried to dress up a Golf Wagon 4motion to a near Golf R Variant ... maybe around ~ 250 hp with some tuning and some suspension goodies, quad exhaust. Close and maybe enough for a stealth family hauler wagon? Or the recent/newer Audi A4 Allroad, already at ~250 hp and Quattro stock. And with a bit of tuning ... closer to 300 hp.

What I would love to see is the Audi RS3 hatchback (quattro and ~ 400hp) in NA! A tad more trunk space than a Golf, I think. Maybe just enough to be functional.

https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/2X...renderings.jpg

I think they are actually very decent to own. This one has only 70,000km and looks to be taken care of. It's a pretty basic small car - no hydraulic suspension or brake-by-wire as on bigger Mercedes so less to go wrong. Common things needing replacement would be engine mounts, valve cover gaskets, and rear tires. The camshafts can show wear and the cam adjusters can make noise but it's unlikely with lower milage and proactive oil changes.

I believe he dynoed the car and it put down 440whp so it's healthy.

I think this gen of C63 is that next level of special compared to an ISF or M3. Mercedes took their biggest engine and shoved it in the c-class. BMW would have needed it to put the V10 into the M3 to match the C63.

With the 'p31' package it has SLS engine internals which is really the icing on the cake.

well..............


If i took the motor and brakes out of my wife's TT RS..... and graft it into the Golf R.......... :pokerface:

DIY 5CYL Golf R? :troll:

@MB___ just had to execute that perfect power slide to impress you :troll:

You can certainly get more power from the 1.8 but it won't feel like the 2.0, that big bore power. Then there's all the other bits and pieces, I looked into it before to get a golf wagon to look like a golf R isn't cheap.

Pay to play I guess.

I would have loved to have a Golf R wagon to replace the GTI, but they aren’t available. Too poor to afford the RS6, so settled for the A4 Allroad. It’s still surprisingly fast for a fairly fat wagon.

APR made one iirc or maybe just the cosmetics. It was for sale in 2020

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A4 wagon looks good, has decent power but I can't justify that Audi badge $$

I'm just a pleb :p

Did you mean RPI? If you scroll to the bottom of link, 2nd last vehicle, you'll see it. There is also an RPI RS6 ... only for $190K!

https://rpiequipped.com/automobiles-for-sale/