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westopher 02-16-2023 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tapioca (Post 9090896)
Appreciate the various perspectives on the used car market.

I picked up a beater E46 convertible last year for $4K. It seems like I won the lottery or something, given the market.

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Originally Posted by Tapioca (Post 9090899)
The pricing on late model VW products is crazy.

We bought our MK7 sportwagen just before the pandemic for less than 20K. The same car is more expensive today, almost 3 years later.

The MK7 wagon is a great car for what it is, but it's not worth over 20K today.

We paid 24k for our mk7.5 sportwagen, and picked up an excellent e46 touring for 3.5k. Sounds like we both ended up even. Things cost what they cost. Save somewhere and get fucked somewhere else.

whitev70r 02-16-2023 09:00 PM

Tapioca and westopher ... did you guys opt for the 4motion or simply the FWD version?

Tapioca 02-16-2023 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 9090932)
Tapioca and westopher ... did you guys opt for the 4motion or simply the FWD version?

We have a FWD. We had a budget and at the time, the only 4motions within our budget were in the base trim.

My wife wanted more creature comforts , so we ended up with an older model with the Fender audio and HIDs.

whitev70r 02-16-2023 09:49 PM

^ yah, you need the 4motion about 2-3x's a year for snow in Vancouver. And 5-6 if you go skiing in Whistler.

Badhobz 02-16-2023 10:09 PM

I miss my 4motion sportwagen. One of the best cars I’ve ever owned.

Tapioca 02-16-2023 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 9090935)
^ yah, you need the 4motion about 2-3x's a year for snow in Vancouver. And 5-6 if you go skiing in Whistler.

I live in an area in the Lower Mainland with significant snow.

I have a set of winter tires for the sportwagen and we have never had a problem getting around where we are with FWD.

Get the 4Motion because it has the DSG.

TypeRNammer 02-17-2023 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by kjlks (Post 9090918)
https://vancouver.craigslist.org/bnc...589958341.html - can throw collector plates on this, if thats your thing

Post deleted, what car was it?

westopher 02-17-2023 06:36 AM

We also have the FWD model. 4 motion was a little out of the budget or it would have taken away from e30 parts.
I've always done whistler trips in the RWD touring or the m3 with proper winters and never had an issue. It really doesn't snow much on the highway. Even used to do it in the slammed mk5 without trouble. Would have liked the 4motion just based on driving dynamics and dsg though. FWD really is shitty to drive

Badhobz 02-17-2023 06:42 AM

i think the DSG is the worst part of the car though. It was often jerky at low speeds and i heard it was also quite fragile. that DSG fluid change is also very expensive.

4motion was good.. until it wasnt. it didnt do jack shit in this sand, and we got totally stuck. had to get a 4runner guy to pull us out.
https://i.postimg.cc/dVMY50hL/IMG-5308.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/yxtH41np/IMG-20170701-211845.jpg

roastpuff 02-17-2023 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 9090949)
i think the DSG is the worst part of the car though. It was often jerky at low speeds and i heard it was also quite fragile. that DSG fluid change is also very expensive.

4motion was good.. until it wasnt. it didnt do jack shit in this sand, and we got totally stuck. had to get a 4runner guy to pull us out.

The DSG 6-speed is jerky at low speed as it is an earlier version compared to the newer 7-speed. To reduce jerkiness, you can either get a TCU (transmission tune) or drive it in manual mode until ~20kph. It's not fragile though - a lot of the GTI/Golf R guys get 400HP on them easily and they hold that power. You can upgrade the clutches for bigger power.

As for the sand, that's just a tire flotation issue - you see trucks and jeeps stuck in the sand on stock tires a lot because there's not enough flotation. The guys with bigger 33/35/37 tires do better on sand to spread out the weight more.

68style 02-17-2023 09:05 AM

haha badhobz got sand in his v

Badhobz 02-17-2023 09:22 AM

i had a sandy V... w for months. that shit's hard to get out hahah

68style 02-17-2023 09:26 AM

It happens to the best of us, I did an aerial endo off the top of a sand dune in Oregon on an ATV once, flipped the ATV like 5 times and fell about 20 feet/rolled the rest of the way down the dune myself...

Was pulling sand outta crevices on my body that I didn't even know I had for a solid week after.

Badhobz 02-17-2023 09:28 AM

i really miss this sportwagen. Might have to replace it with something similar to roastpuff's beautiful audi wagon when/if this camry ever dies.

whitev70r 02-17-2023 09:57 AM

In light of the above, this seems like a fair ask.

2018 Golf Sportwagen, 4motion, 112K kms (bit high), $20K ... too bad it's on a dealer lot on Kingsway in Surrey.

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/rds...585640155.html

https://images.craigslist.org/00f0f_...9G_600x450.jpg


Here's another, but this guy tried to make it look like an R wagon with fake quad exhaust, R steering wheel, and R wheels. Big ask though, 2018 with 52K kms, $28.5K

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/rds...590276684.html

https://images.craigslist.org/00o0o_...b1_600x450.jpg

radeonboy 02-17-2023 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 9090973)
i really miss this sportwagen. Might have to replace it with something similar to roastpuff's beautiful audi wagon when/if this camry ever dies.

That Camry is never going to die unless you crash it or something. My mother had one and hated how it didn't' give her any practical excuses to get a new car.

May I suggest a Volvo wagon? These V60s with the T6 are sleepers - beautiful inside and has 300hp/325 lb-ft of torque to boot.

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van...587491011.html
https://images.craigslist.org/00E0E_...M_1200x900.jpg


And speaking of Sportwagens, I do miss my AllTrack...
https://i.imgur.com/u1kwfjV.jpg

!Aznboi128 02-17-2023 10:10 AM

never buy a volvo without a warranty

roastpuff 02-17-2023 12:59 PM

Do not want the new Volvo motors. Too complex...

Also the chassis is not as good as MQB/MLB Evo.

Tapioca 02-17-2023 01:33 PM

The MK7 sportwagen/Alltrack with stick shift is basically auto nirvana for most people. Good chassis, decent interior (with the revised infotainment), and practicality. The weak points are the seals by the water pump/thermostat amd PCV, but overall, the drivetrain has proven to be quite reliable.

trollface 02-17-2023 01:49 PM

I think tires are your problem there, not the trans lol

Badhobz 02-17-2023 02:22 PM

nah, the problem was the low clearance. sand's too soft and i got high sided.

Anyways, during the 4 years of ownership i had a couple of issues. the DSG had some issues with low speed clunking as mentioned before. They tried a few things at the dealership but it never was completely fixed. Replaced the DSG fluid too and that didnt even fix it. The infotainment would randomly crash and restart and i had 3 pano sunroof failures.

First failure was due to the rails not linning up properly and water getting in. (replaced headliner)
Second failure was the drain spouts getting clogged and flooding again (replaced 2nd headliner)
3rd failure was the rollers getting completely stuck and i couldnt even close the damn thing. I read quite a bit of pano roof issues on the MK7 forums.
https://i.postimg.cc/GtB4MT84/IMG-6732.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/KjdRCcBJ/IMG-6733.jpg

JDMDreams 02-17-2023 02:24 PM

What about subuwus? Literally all of them are awd. And the good shit too, none of that only kicks in when you slip awd. You literally have all sized and shapes of wagons to choose from. Outback, Impreza, legacy, Forrester

JDMDreams 02-17-2023 02:26 PM

What did you expect from the finest of German engineering. Nothing more exciting that starting the car every morning wondering what light will come on and how much it will cost me.

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Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 9091004)
nah, the problem was the low clearance. sand's too soft and i got high sided.

Anyways, during the 4 years of ownership i had a couple of issues. the DSG had some issues with low speed clunking as mentioned before. They tried a few things at the dealership but it never was completely fixed. Replaced the DSG fluid too and that didnt even fix it. The infotainment would randomly crash and restart and i had 3 pano sunroof failures.

First failure was due to the rails not linning up properly and water getting in. (replaced headliner)
Second failure was the drain spouts getting clogged and flooding again (replaced 2nd headliner)
3rd failure was the rollers getting completely stuck and i couldnt even close the damn thing. I read quite a bit of pano roof issues on the MK7 forums.
https://i.postimg.cc/GtB4MT84/IMG-6732.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/KjdRCcBJ/IMG-6733.jpg


Tapioca 02-17-2023 02:52 PM

German cars just drive differently.

That's why, despite the niggles, people buy them.

roastpuff 02-17-2023 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JDMDreams (Post 9091005)
What about subuwus? Literally all of them are awd. And the good shit too, none of that only kicks in when you slip awd. You literally have all sized and shapes of wagons to choose from. Outback, Impreza, legacy, Forrester

No more Impreza wagon or Legacy wagon. Forester and Outback are true SUVs now, very tall. Subaru has gotten fat and boring. The WRX is alone, and no more STI. Subaru wagons no longer exist - only older models.

And you'd be surprised at the current state of Subaru AWD especially with CVT - it's no longer "symmetrical" AWD, it's front-biased to a degree for better fuel economy. Also, CVT trans is absolute dogshit. That's why the new WRX is a joke for making the top trim CVT only.


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