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Old 02-12-2024, 05:29 PM   #38301
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Speaking of beetles, I raise you w12

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I mean you can have v10 and w12 for the price of that golf r

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It would be pretty cool to be able to say you have 22 cylinders across 2 cars
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^ your credit card for gas say, 'not cool' at all.

Srsly, after driving a V10 or V12 once to Sea to Sky on a summer day, how often would you take that thing out? Is it a garage queen?
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I would love one but every single thing is engine out

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Every time I hear "engine out service" I say it in the same way that Fernando Alonso said "GP2 Engine! GP2!" when he was driving the McLaren Honda.

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^ your credit card for gas say, 'not cool' at all.

Srsly, after driving a V10 or V12 once to Sea to Sky on a summer day, how often would you take that thing out? Is it a garage queen?
yes, because it would be in a shop all the time
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^ your credit card for gas say, 'not cool' at all.

Srsly, after driving a V10 or V12 once to Sea to Sky on a summer day, how often would you take that thing out? Is it a garage queen?
If your not devaluing the shit out of your V10 V12 GT_____ S2000 M3 M5 typeR R8:
Or whatever other 50-500k worth of shit you have parked in your garage, do society a favor and sell it.
So someone else can devalue the shit out of it..... and create some rubber necks on the sea to sky / steelhead / NVmarine drive / east sooke backroads
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It would be pretty cool to be able to say you have 22 cylinders across 2 cars
i have 40 running cylinders under my current care. oil alone is a significant cost.

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I wonder on the v10 can you do like a Ferrari 5 year engine out service, like rip it out every 5 years redo everything for like 10gs and you should be good for another 5-10 years? If you divide that over 5-10 years it's not that bad per year.

And yes you should be able to daily drive a w12 and definitely a v10 Avant. AWD.

I have 24 cylinders under my care right now, but Yolo. It's not like I insure and drive all of them at once
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https://carsandbids.com/auctions/r4D...2-lexus-sc-430

This SC430 ended up going for 9k USD.
Daily driver condition with 1 minor accident and various chips/scratches
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It would be pretty cool to be able to say you have 22 cylinders across 2 cars
Subaru owners can say the same thing…. They’re just scattered in the road and around the garage lol
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The SC is a pretty good deal, timing belt bone, can't think of a more reliable hard top convertible
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Buy SC !!! Join me in my geriatric motoring club my brothers !!!!
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Proper fun. Being a Westfield this could be well sorted and ready to go.

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Geriatric Motoring Club sounds pretty catchy.

This should be a thing.
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Geriatric Motoring Club sounds pretty catchy.

This should be a thing.
Literally why I prefer the Chevy truck over the old man spec GMC
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Speaking of maintenance I saw meme on instagram and it looks like it’s somewhat true lol

https://www.carscoops.com/2023/07/as...first-3-years/

$500,000 in the first 3 years for Valkyrie owners lol
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Speaking of maintenance I saw meme on instagram and it looks like it’s somewhat true lol

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$500,000 in the first 3 years for Valkyrie owners lol
I couldn't stop thinking about 458 Challenge after driving one but I heard maintenance runs 800-1M over 3 years.
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^nah man. It should be just like a regular 458. Maintenance should be 1-2k a year depending on mileage

Service A is roughly 1k (although prices must have gone up since I had my Maserati)
Service B is 2k
Service C is 4-5k
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^nah man. It should be just like a regular 458. Maintenance should be 1-2k a year depending on mileage

Service A is roughly 1k (although prices must have gone up since I had my Maserati)
Service B is 2k
Service C is 4-5k
Here's what I had in my notes since Ferrari of Seattle had a 458 Challenge EVO for ~106k that a buddy was down to split:

It depends on how you use it... I know someone who know a guy who knew a guy who helped him register it as a road car and it's pretty cheap.

Usage based...
Injector cleaning and coil replacement every 15k km.
Engine refresh every 30k, $30-50k.
Ceramic rotors last ~30 session (15k), conversion kits available (7k).
Fuel cell every 5 years ($10-15k + fitting), pump kit runs $4k.

Major things:
That gen DCT has some issues but replacements or rebuilds are now just $15k.
If you want the EVO kit, parts cost is $35k and requires welding to mount wing support.

As a track car however:

Consumables:
2 sets of tires and wheel for a full day ($7kish), extra set of wheel is 20k
Race gas at 3-5MPG, $10/gal ($500 per day)
1-2 sets of pads per weekend

Time based
Full nut and bolt, alignment, damper check each day
Annual inspection: all cooling system (radiator, hoses, etc), suspension (LCAs, ball joints, bushings)

Racing the actual thing:
general transportation and entry costs to CCR events (25-80k) if you decide to do them.
Chief, engineer, fuel consumables, spotters, electronics dude, bodywork dude (50k per race weekend)
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Oh yeah track car it’s gonna be insane.

Most Ferrari owners aren’t gonna have anywhere close to 30,000kms as it’ll tank resale so hard that you’ll lose like 1/4 the value. Especially the higher spec cars like the aperta , challenge or specialie

You’re suppose to drive it around the block and then back into hibernation it goes otherwise you risk diminished value. God forbid you actually drive it or even worst…. Gulp… track it
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If you have no intention or plans to sell the car, and you end up driving it daily to get groceries or to drop your kids off at school, does depreciation even matter?
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Oh yeah track car it’s gonna be insane.

Most Ferrari owners aren’t gonna have anywhere close to 30,000kms as it’ll tank resale so hard that you’ll lose like 1/4 the value. Especially the higher spec cars like the aperta , challenge or specialie

You’re suppose to drive it around the block and then back into hibernation it goes otherwise you risk diminished value. God forbid you actually drive it or even worst…. Gulp… track it
It's particularly difficult since the Challenge isn't normally street legal and can't be filled up at a normal gas station.
The man who registered it is self-insuring in some state that allows him to do that since no one would write him a policy.

The Aperta/Speciale are triple the cost of a Challenge .... since u can actually drive them lol
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If it's only a 100gs, why don't you just beat on it, do mods to make it more street able. Assuming you can get it insured. I don't see it dropping below $100 as at the end of the day you have the badge. Can you manual swap a 458?
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If it's only a 100gs, why don't you just beat on it, do mods to make it more street able. Assuming you can get it insured. I don't see it dropping below $100 as at the end of the day you have the badge. Can you manual swap a 458?
The fuel system is probably the biggest thing.

Manual swaps where they're converting an SMG normally runs 30-50k.

A couple shops have done the 458 swap but it's a LOT more involved since you're completely replacing a DCT, more like 70-80k.

At that point, might as well get the Challenge for 100k, keep it DCT but also get a gated 360/430 for 100k.
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