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Old 02-27-2024, 01:03 PM   #38426
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Old 02-27-2024, 02:39 PM   #38427
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I'm not boomer enough to really be into e30 wagons, maybe e36 wagon, I started with e39/e46 wagons, then e61 turned into shit
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Well... Gen X and Millennials are the driving force behind the Rad era wave, so not sure why you gotta be a boomer to want an E30... boomers are too busy beating off to Caprice or Country Squire faux wood panel wagons
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I don't think e30s were ever that popular or available here? Like even 10 15 years ago you rarely rarely see any old BMWs, I see more e34 than e30s, all I see are e36,e46. Even all the 190e 300e are quite rare now.
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E30 wagons weren't here, that's what makes them so cool.

That said, I remember E30 and 190E era Mercs were ALL OVER the place in my younger years... and I'm right on the border between Gen X / Millennial
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E30s were very popular. 15 years ago they were a big tuner car. Then they all disappeared like 240sx’, EF/EG civics, Miatas and the like.

E30 is a bloody old car now. I think back when I was a kid. They are basicly a 54’ Belair, to the new generation. Lol.
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I loved my e30, but it was automatic so in sold for so cheap at the time because I wanted a manual and didn't want put the money into getting it swapped at a shop but still have an old BMW with all the old BMW issues to deal with.

I don't regret selling it especially with my E82 feeling like the spiritual descendant of the E30. But it was a relatively clean shell with an interior in amazing shape, it would've still taken a good amount of investment to get it in good enough shape to sell for any sort of good return or to keep it running over the years.
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There were a lot of E30s on the streets back in the 90s and early 2000s.

I had one when they literally hit the bottom of the depreciation curve. I had a 1989 325is in 2010 that I bought for $1500. As more and more E30s became acquired like dumb young people, like me when I bought my example, they became drift cars or they were written off. The demand is still high for these cars because of the internet hype (though the hype is largely substantiated as it's truly a classic chassis and embodies everything that made BMW great).

These days, I imagine that most clean examples have been acquired by Gen-Xers or older Millennials who are wealthy enough to keep them in their 4-car garages in their vacation homes on the Island or on the Sunshine Coast. Everything else out there is clapped out with welded diffs, rocker panel rust, stripped interiors, etc.

$25K-40K for a clean late-model E30 example becomes a tough value proposition, when there are much more modern cars with slightly more complexity and less road feel that can be had at the same price point.
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What if it's a white e30 wagon with a s52 in it that ran before. Would anyone want
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seems to be a about a 30k premium for a 3rd pedal - which is everything that is wrong w the car market.
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seems to be a about a 30k premium for a 3rd pedal - which is everything that is wrong w the car market.
Last gated manual car that a commoner can reasonably purchase. Even at 110k it's still attainable.
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hmmm ... I like. Sensible AMG wagon for a soccer mom wagon (over the E63). 2019 MB E53 AMG long roof, 49K kms, $67K. Not sure about the price but nice.

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Ouch. That's some huge depreciation. These cars, brand new, are not cheap by any means!

We shopped around for a wagon and did a back to back comparison between the C and E-class wagons. Dollar for dollar, the E-class (brand new) is a tough pill to swallow. Is it nicer than the C-class wagon? Yes, but not by huge margins.

Also, I think roastpuff will agree with me. The new wagons materials, fit, and finish are pretty blah in comparison to their Audi rivals. Regardless, still nice cars. And I'm too broke to afford one.
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Ah ... so C-class might be best option for value/buck. Less power but still enough, smaller though. C-class ... good name for all the Asian ladies in Richmond.
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can you remove the sideblade to install a carbon one?
not that it'd be cheap...
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^ If you don't care if it's a China piece likely with questionable fitment, they're about $800usd on ebay!
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Ouch. That's some huge depreciation. These cars, brand new, are not cheap by any means!

We shopped around for a wagon and did a back to back comparison between the C and E-class wagons. Dollar for dollar, the E-class (brand new) is a tough pill to swallow. Is it nicer than the C-class wagon? Yes, but not by huge margins.

Also, I think roastpuff will agree with me. The new wagons materials, fit, and finish are pretty blah in comparison to their Audi rivals. Regardless, still nice cars. And I'm too broke to afford one.
This wagon's been sitting for some time at over $70k so there's probably room to negotiate further. The C43s hovered around this price during COVID but I suppose those have dropped in value as well.

The Audi interiors are nicer, but the powertrains in these Mercs are more interesting than their Audi counterparts. They're all nice options in the end like you said - just a matter of preference.
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can you remove the sideblade to install a carbon one?
not that it'd be cheap...
It's a mod some v8 owners do. You could also just wrap it in carbon fiber vinyl.
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Ouch. That's some huge depreciation. These cars, brand new, are not cheap by any means!

We shopped around for a wagon and did a back to back comparison between the C and E-class wagons. Dollar for dollar, the E-class (brand new) is a tough pill to swallow. Is it nicer than the C-class wagon? Yes, but not by huge margins.

Also, I think roastpuff will agree with me. The new wagons materials, fit, and finish are pretty blah in comparison to their Audi rivals. Regardless, still nice cars. And I'm too broke to afford one.
At that price, it becomes a pretty good bargain. At least the E-class fit and finish is better than the C-class. Also, the I6 drivetrain and the heated armrests are very tempting.

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Ah ... so C-class might be best option for value/buck. Less power but still enough, smaller though. C-class ... good name for all the Asian ladies in Richmond.
C-class fit and finish is quite poor IMO - have not seen the latest gen but the cost cutting in them was quite clear compared to the E-class.

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This wagon's been sitting for some time at over $70k so there's probably room to negotiate further. The C43s hovered around this price during COVID but I suppose those have dropped in value as well.

The Audi interiors are nicer, but the powertrains in these Mercs are more interesting than their Audi counterparts. They're all nice options in the end like you said - just a matter of preference.
Yeah a matter of preference. The powertrain in the E53 is definitely heaps more interesting than the EA888 or the 3.0T in the A6 Allroad.
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It's a mod some v8 owners do. You could also just wrap it in carbon fiber vinyl.
CF wrap is quite ugly imo, zero depth and you can tell it's a wrap 10ft away. I'd just keep it silver in that case
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