iirc they lobbied to have the taxes added to private sales in the first place.

Not sure if it’s a good buy, probably not. But definitely a cool buy!

https://www.facebook.com/share/7odr6...ibextid=79PoIi

^^ On that topic of "not sure if good buy but cool buy"

97 Del Sol 5MT 242K - $9,500 - I'm sure you can talk down a bit. Listing is vague to say the least, though.

haven't driven the IS F but heard that IS F owners were disappointed by how normal the IS500 felt (despite imo having a better general chassis balance and feel) and that the LC F actually feel kinda special

Lexus builds the IS-F, owners complain suspension is too harsh

Lexus builds the IS500 with softer suspension, owners complain suspension is too soft.

Lexus = :seriously:

I don't think Lexus understands their customer base :fuckthatshit:

That could be significantly because Lexus as an entity for all intents and purposes does not really exist in Japan, it's an image construct primarily for North Americans.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the LF-A and LC500 are the only 2 cars they ever sold under the Lexus badge in Japan, everything else got rebranded as a Toyota.

I think that changed over in 2005 and they use Lexus for quite a few things over there now. Before 2005 it was all Toyota...but I may be wrong.

Not anymore. That used to be the case but now Lexus is actually in Japan and has been for a while (you can check out how many Lexus stores they have on google maps). The products are a bit disjointed because they want to do global platforms and global cars but each market is very distinctive. The is500 seems very much a skunkworks project or an engineering fever dream where they try and shove that 2ur-gse engine into everything and anything that would take it.

I remember my parents had one of these growing up, crammed my brother and I, plus our 100lb dog in the back and drove to the Shuswap.

https://www.facebook.com/share/HDkBC...ibextid=79PoIi

IMO the real problem for the 500 is that the CT5-V Blackwing is like 15k more...

You get an available manual, ~600hp supercharged V8, drives like a sports car instead of a Lexus with a V8... and mag shocks that make the ride both soft and firm when u want it

available supercruise, giant OLED dashboard, and recaro pole position style bucket seats are just the cherry on top

I love the CT5-V Blackwing... love love love it... but it's hard to get and with ANY options it's well into the $120+ range I've built several of them... and nobody wants to take that risk on the car with the depreciation Cadillacs typically have and a little bit of the bad image the ownership has too.

Not the same car, but I ended up renting a CT4 in automatic for two weeks in Los Angeles and it was a great car. Like 68style said, the depreciation is tough to swallow.

I feel that even speccing the CT5-BW with an auto is a death sentence for resale value.
The CT4-V BW and CT-5 V aren't worth buying since they'll also depreciate like rocks.

I fully expect the last factory manual supercharged v8 sedan to hold a fair bit of value (the dummy resale value on 2G CTS-V Wagons suggests this should apply too)

I think this is500 will hold its value decently once all the NA v8 s are dead. Right now the only thing left standing are the RC F , is500 and the LC.

Even the GX and LX no longer have v8s. Soon it’ll be a sea of forced induction

IS500 is probably going to be one of those nobody bought it when it was new and then people will be looking for it as the last Toyota V8 sedan a few years from now and there won't be hardly any around

I want a is500 but not at $80000 Rather get a used lc500

^Lightly-used LC500s were in the low-mid 80s during covid in 2020 before the market went crazy - a friend picked up a 2019 during that time and is probably still ahead.

I suspect used values for the IS500 will be bound between the IS-F and GS-F. I can see them hovering around $50-60k for a decent lowish mileage one given how long that Toyota Richmond unit sat for.

These don't come up for sale too often, I don't even know if this is good price. I guess it is if you're willing to pay ... 2013 AMG E63 MB Wagon, 63K kms, $53,900. If I had kids that need rides to soccer field or to hockey, and $55K, this would be it.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...0299440610736/


https://scontent.fcxh3-1.fna.fbcdn.n...0w&oe=65F763C1

Is AMGMeister here on RS?

This wagon sold for 37k in Jan. I believe it has spent some time out of province and has a few decs.

richardmozis = AMGMeister and he has one of my favourite AMG channels.

Rly ... in that case, not worth remotely close to asking price $55K. $37K ... that would be a good buy.

From posting:
Over the past 11 years and 65,380 kilometers, its had one left front corner repair for $8,127.00, one left rear repair for $2,299.89, a front center for $2,398.61, and one final left rear for $1,468.69. It is a clean title car!

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...type=top_picks

2007 Lexus LS460, 65k km
$13,500

https://scontent.fyvr4-1.fna.fbcdn.n...sg&oe=65F87DF3

I would take this one instead. Local car and no hits.

https://m.facebook.com/marketplace/i...97/?ref=search

^ could that 2012 AMG E63 wagon be fake? From FB posting, it looks like a white fellow, a Matt Brown, in Richmond. I didn't know there were any ... except the mayor.

I think 69Style is in Richmond. So now you know 2 :lawl: