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BIC_BAWS 06-26-2024 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by is350 (Post 9140768)
^wow what? I never knew mazda cx5 had that engine option

Oh this is similar to the 540d or any of the 40d products from BMW. It was single model year (2018) production due to emission laws lol.

I'm tryna find a 540d...

radeonboy 06-26-2024 11:27 PM

The facelifted CX-5 also got a stick-shift for one model year, but it only comes in the base GS guise.

EvoFire 06-27-2024 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Klondike (Post 9140762)
https://vancouver.craigslist.org/bnc...757973480.html

'19 CX-5 Diesel
https://i.imgur.com/dnuIAaA.jpeg
Spoiler!


I need the D(iesel)

That's expensive. IIRC the diesel really didn't return much better fuel economy, and the turbo is the better buy.

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Originally Posted by radeonboy (Post 9140771)
The facelifted CX-5 also got a stick-shift for one model year, but it only comes in the base GS guise.

The stick is also FWD only, you can't get AWD which makes it a bit of a lame duck.

JDMDreams 06-27-2024 06:47 AM

I thought there was no diesels Mazda here and it was a Europe only thing

supafamous 06-27-2024 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JDMDreams (Post 9140776)
I thought there was no diesels Mazda here and it was a Europe only thing

I think it was only available for 1 year before Mazda gave up on it - they had to cripple the performance a bit for emissions reasons and therefore the performance was worse than the turbo yet it $5k more.

https://www.autotrader.ca/editorial/...diesel-review/

Gerbs 06-27-2024 08:32 AM

What's so good about diesel that it's worth the markup?

AstulzerRZD 06-27-2024 08:43 AM

The euro motor was famous for headgasket issues, the US version lost another 20hp/40lbft.

It got like 10% better EPA/NRCAN mileage than the gas version with a huge upcharge, did not sell.

The Producer 06-27-2024 09:13 AM

sounds like it would be an absolutely insane 1 year only vehicle to purchase

no disrespect the the poster, on the surface it's pretty cool - but this must be one of the all time bad buys of the thread

mazda must have been out of their minds. passenger vehicle diesel is dead

supafamous 06-27-2024 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by The Producer (Post 9140799)
sounds like it would be an absolutely insane 1 year only vehicle to purchase

no disrespect the the poster, on the surface it's pretty cool - but this must be one of the all time bad buys of the thread

mazda must have been out of their minds. passenger vehicle diesel is dead

Mazda's drivetrain strategy over the past 10-15 years has been largely that of a mad scientist who likes to zig when everyone zags.

While everyone else goes with a gas 3L turbo six that make anywhere from 300-550hp they go with a 3.3L gas single turbo that makes only 340hp and a 3.3L diesel turbo AND they plan on releasing a NA 3.3L gas engine. All hooked up to a in house designed 8 speed auto with a wet clutch. And then there's the PHEV drivetrain hooked to a 2.5L four.

There's no reason for them to not just go with the flow (3L turbo) and then use the ZF8 HP tranny that everyone else uses.

Just the amount of R&D dollars (for a tiny company) that went into something that should have been straightforward is crazy. I hope and pray that they can survive cause I don't ever want the Miata to go away but I'd never buy shares in them cause they are a poorly run business.

twitchyzero 06-27-2024 09:26 AM

bumps up tow capacity by another 1500lbs, nice
did they reinforce the tongue and extra cooling for the trans then?

AstulzerRZD 06-27-2024 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerbs (Post 9140791)
What's so good about diesel that it's worth the markup?

Really really good highway fuel economy
Diesel gets more efficient with high load

Dbone 06-27-2024 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by red kryptonite (Post 9135026)
PY z3m is now pending... glad someone made an offer.

Just heard that someone stole this thing for 20k.

Man.. that seems like a crazy deal for a well sorted, 30k km S54 Z3m.

whitev70r 06-27-2024 10:00 AM

Yah, if I'd go diesel used, I'd go with the trusted diesel cheaters - VW/Audi, they've been at it for a long time. Do they have a Q5 TDI?
And maybe even BMW as a gamble. This is the 328d (weak 180hp) version but I think there is a 335d 6 cyl (265hp) engine version.

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van...756436184.html

https://images.craigslist.org/00C0C_...2_1200x900.jpg

underscore 06-27-2024 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by The Producer (Post 9140799)
sounds like it would be an absolutely insane 1 year only vehicle to purchase

no disrespect the the poster, on the surface it's pretty cool - but this must be one of the all time bad buys of the thread

mazda must have been out of their minds. passenger vehicle diesel is dead

Having owned a 2-year diesel unicorn, do not buy a 1-year diesel unicorn.

GS8 06-27-2024 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by rps13 (Post 9140739)

Price went up to $12,000. Fuck this guy and his fart torn driver seat...

EvoFire 06-27-2024 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD (Post 9140810)
Really really good highway fuel economy
Diesel gets more efficient with high load

For most diesels yes, not for the Mazda

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Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 9140815)
Yah, if I'd go diesel used, I'd go with the trusted diesel cheaters - VW/Audi, they've been at it for a long time. Do they have a Q5 TDI?
And maybe even BMW as a gamble. This is the 328d (weak 180hp) version but I think there is a 335d 6 cyl (265hp) engine version.

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van...756436184.html

https://images.craigslist.org/00C0C_...2_1200x900.jpg

There is a Q5 TDI, not common though.

The E90 came in a 335d which is apparently a hoot.
The F30 only came in the 328d.

People that buy diesels typically know what they are doing and almost all of them have high mileage. No one buys a diesel to do 5k a year, except MAYBE the occasional X5 35d.

JDMDreams 06-27-2024 10:25 AM

I was looking at diesel ML, and my mechanic told me to stay away:considered:

EvoFire 06-27-2024 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JDMDreams (Post 9140827)
I was looking at diesel ML, and my mechanic told me to stay away:considered:

Most diesels worth their damn are going to have higher maintenance costs. They have much more oil capacity compared to their gas counterparts, and then some models you'll have the blueurea or DPF stuff to deal with. You really need to be piling on the highway mileage to make it work in your favour.

AstulzerRZD 06-27-2024 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JDMDreams (Post 9140827)
I was looking at diesel ML, and my mechanic told me to stay away:considered:

The V6 diesels tend to be a lot more troublesome - MB, FCA, Ford, GM all discontinued.

I4 diesel for piling on highway mileage in a passenger car is fine tho. Italian/German diesels only.

whitev70r 06-27-2024 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by EvoFire (Post 9140823)

The E90 came in a 335d which is apparently a hoot.
The F30 only came in the 328d.

so the 335d only came in sedan here in NA and maybe the X5 SUV version? Saw a couple of Euro reviews of the BMW 335d wagon xdrive which apparently was the cat's meow!

The Producer 06-27-2024 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 9140846)
so the 335d only came in sedan here in NA and maybe the X5 SUV version? Saw a couple of Euro reviews of the BMW 335d wagon xdrive which apparently was the cat's meow!

yes - the X5's have the same M57 6 cyl diesel as the 335d

the build recipes for these motors are tried and true. do the deletes, get the tunes, maybe beef up the trans programming and cooling.

tuned 335d's will absolutely walk stock E9x M3's. Look for an msport and you've got an absolute bahnstormer on your hands.

the later 2L diesel doesn't compare at all.

underscore 06-27-2024 11:58 AM

iirc with just a downpipe, dpf delete, and flash tune, they can make 600+ ftlbs.

bcuzracecarz 06-27-2024 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GS8 (Post 9140820)
Price went up to $12,000. Fuck this guy and his fart torn driver seat...

Plus how the hell does the top of the seat get that badly torn. I hate this and his finger picture post

The Producer 06-27-2024 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 9140857)
iirc with just a downpipe, dpf delete, and flash tune, they can make 600+ ftlbs.

plus - a lot of times, the X5's especially come up as "mechanic's specials" that essentially get fixed by the deletes you want to do anyways.

there are killer deals on the diesel X5's sometimes. I know guys that have picked them up for a couple g's

E90 diesel guys seem to know what they have more - they're never that cheap. Id' rather have them though and never deal w a AWD BMW ever again.

BIC_BAWS 06-27-2024 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 9140846)
so the 335d only came in sedan here in NA and maybe the X5 SUV version? Saw a couple of Euro reviews of the BMW 335d wagon xdrive which apparently was the cat's meow!

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Originally Posted by The Producer (Post 9140856)
yes - the X5's have the same M57 6 cyl diesel as the 335d. The later 2L diesel doesn't compare at all.

There's also the G20 (2018) 540d that I mentioned earlier. It's the true successor to the M57 - the B57. 3L twinturbo straight six. Technically the successor is the N57, but it's only avail in the F10/F15 35d's in Canada.

The 2L diesel N57 (?) in the 28d's suck balls. Might as well get a normal car at that point.

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Originally Posted by The Producer (Post 9140864)
E90 diesel guys seem to know what they have more - they're never that cheap. Id' rather have them though and never deal w a AWD BMW ever again.

I've been hunting for a 335d msport for the longest time. I almost pulled the trigger on the M3 drivetrain swapped one a few years ago, but ultimately bought the Type R instead. I've got trollface's problem - i refuse to pay the "market" price on these 300K KM 335d MSports...

I'll continue hunting for a 540d MSport instead.


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