i havent tried anything VW other than the jetta back in the day.
im just waiting for trollface to chime in to defend the R.

The thing I always love about the Golf's is the seating position and the greenhouse... it's got that old school feel of low beltline and lots of glass you can see everything in it. Most modern cars feel like you're a little kid sitting in a bathtub.

I've only driven a mk5 golf and the floor hinged pedal was weird AF after only have JDM cars. I did test drive some mk4 vr6s but I never pulled the trigger on one. I sorta wanted the vr6s r32 before.

Don't get me wrong - I LOVED the MK7 TSI I had.
Visibility, damping, nice cabin with physical controls, and materials at the level of a base Lexus. All of this at 22k.

I just don't think 6MT GTI, 6MT/DSG R deliver the experience they're hyped up to deliver.

They are the best Swiss Army knife imo, if you want a sports car. This is not. They have always been muted compared to its peers, and that’s the reason ppl buy them. They are shockly practical if you don’t live life 1/4 mile at a time.

I’ve got two coupes with no back seats. I don’t need a third and I’m not driving a SUV.

2025 black edition in blue, black roof, leather interior and titanium akrapovic exhaust getting delivered in mid to late May.

This is where all my hate for the Golf R is. There's nothing "R" about it lol. It's as sporty as a "Sport" trim on an econobox



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I think there's a couple "R"; a car would ideally hit all 3

There's sportiness R; this is Mini/Abarth/S2000.
It's about being satisfying to drive even at low speeds; these aren't amazing track cars.

There's drivability R; this is Golf R and M340i.
Fast and easy to drive no matter the conditions.
Problem is the base model with a tune comes super close to the sporty variant; later Mk7 nerfed the TSI and increased GTI capability with VAQ diff.

There's capability R; this is the Type R and 981/991/whatever.
Amazing track car, seats hold you in nice but imo shifter and other controls don't feel super sporty if you're just tooling around town.

How did you order blue on the black edition? They only have black on the website?

It can come in white or blue as well:

https://i.ibb.co/KMQpzcX/r-black-edition.png

Driven a bunch of GTIs since MK5. All really boring stock, I told my friend it's a quicker Corolla and he was a little mad lol. I'm like fine it's got a nicer interior but it's just so dull.

I did drive one that was FBO. The turbo lag gave it some semblance of drama, but that was it.

The R means just as much as the S, M trim or GT. There isn't some benchmark you have to meet to put a letter on a car. If you are looking for a sports car, you don’t buy the R. The other cars do sports car things way better than the R. Every generation of the R has been soft compared to its competitors, and every buyer knows that. The Golf R is not a sports car, it’s a spicy version of a base car. It’s literally in the name, Hot Hatch.


I haul all my gear to go salmon fishing in the sticks every fall/winter. I can put everything in it, have fun driving up the Sea to Sky in any weather, and cruise back down like a lazy bastard after standing 12 hours in a river on a nice soft ride with heated seats.

I’m not doing that in a Type R with TE-37 because it offers more driving experience over logging roads. This is a sample use case for a car like the R. It's going to fit in perfectly with my car that has levers instead of buttons and the one that's 2inch off the ground.

The car is a compromise, and it does it very well.

That's what I get for looking at manufacturer websites on a iPhone SE lol

I'm really digging this new GTI colour with the (also new) Queenstown wheels... really dislike the GTI letters on the side though are those on the MY2024?? I can't remember from Badhobz's now.

https://i.imgur.com/PnHNLuE.jpeg

I've been eyeing a Blue 2012 R 6mt, I've been longing for a stick functional hot hatch. This one has been listed for a whiiiiile though, sketch.

Obviously as its a Hastings dealer... PPI will be a MUST lol. Prelim research says HPFP issues, and timing chain tensioner? Seems like typical german issues.

What an odd place to put that lettering

I think the mk 6 and 7 likes to rust too? But I thought golf r/ GTI was the benchmark. Like the beetle. Everyone uses that as the one to beat. Too bad we don't get all the weird euro hot hatches. Alfa, megane, skoda, opel, pugeaut

I'm getting rid of my golf r soonish

For those Abarth fans, this seems like a decent specimen

2015 Fiat Abarth, 92K kms, $10K, looks like well maintained with some nice gentle mods.

https://www.facebook.com/share/1BrKBWD7nr/

https://scontent.fcxh3-1.fna.fbcdn.n...MQ&oe=67F14497

Oh man, love the exhaust tone on these things

We called em "a-barfs" when they came out, hideous cars

I’ve driven the Abarth and Mini extensively.
Both have terrible interior plastics but

IMO a B48 Cooper S feels a lot more responsive and is only an exhaust away
Without the major usability, comfort, build quality drawbacks of the Abarth.

^ Just chop the muffler off and it'll be the same

This is B38 but I think the 3 popper sounds better.

Speaking of minis, I wonder how they survive since they got big + BMW problems

BMW dosnet really have these crazy problems anymore. If anything the old minis are the time bombs.

Yeah, anything older than BMW B series engine in Mini is asking for trouble.

- R50/53: terrible CVTs and manual even tho the engine is mostly ok
- R56: N14/16/18 all have timing chain issues, Aisin 6 speed rly doesn’t handle torque
- F56 (2014+) with B38-48 and revised 6AT/7DCT are good.