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12-26-2018, 01:17 AM
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#24201 | | Even when im right, revscene.net is still right!
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Originally Posted by Akinari  Yeah those K-series motors are tanks. Never burned a drop of oil either. | Never burned oil?
My 04 type s burned alot of oil but the engine is very reliable
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12-26-2018, 08:07 AM
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#24202 | | Banned By Establishment
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Originally Posted by twitchyzero E60 M even with all that bulk seems like such bargain for the performance that you get, but at end of the day it seems to still require supercar-caliber maintenance from the wallet
nothing that the average RS poster can't handle though (if the latest pic of my whip and real estate feeds are any indication) | Once you replace the bearings, throttle actuators, SMG pumps and can get passed the horrific gas mileage in the city, the E60 M5 can be a real piece of shit.  Could always find a manual but I’m told it takes away from the real character of it. I never had an issue with my S65s after about 100k. I’d always keep the revs down and had a Wolverine oil pan heater for those -20 mornings.
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12-26-2018, 10:50 AM
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#24203 | | Captain Happy Bubble is my Homeboy
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Originally Posted by Akinari Y'all ain't got nothing on my cars.
My old Element was just shy of 360k kms before getting totalled. Ran a compression test a few months prior with perfect results.
My Corolla is around 274k kms now, zero issues as well aside from the usual blowby from the 1ZZ motors.
Meanwhile my old leased E90 needed a motor rebuild under warranty less than 30k kms in. |
IMO it is not even very fair to compare economy vehicle to race inspired vehicle. How many 400 or 500+ HP motor are reliable that can be used 200k km or even 300k km? 2JZ is probably the only motor I could think of but since that Toyota decided not to make any race engine for general public consumers. I would assume one of the reason is because all the race engine after 2JZ is going to ruin Toyota's reliable reputation.
I've owned E60 M5 for 6 months, it's not even that nice to drive in the city due to SMG transmission. During the 6 months ownership with a low mileage example, the SMG pump failed, the thermostat sensor failed. Both would cost me $2000-$3000 each to repair if not covered by warranty. But it's not about the cost of repair, it is the fear that this vehicle will leave me and/or my family standard anytime, anywhere. So I sold it.
It might be my luck with BMW, my next E46 M3 constantly leaks oil/fluid that I have to visit the repair shop more than 3 times a year.
However I am still looking for a F80 M3 since BMW is the only company still offers manual transmission sedan...But there is no M car appears in good buy thread for long long time.  | |
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12-26-2018, 11:36 AM
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#24204 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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G70 offers manual/rwd/lsd, 0-60 4.7s
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12-26-2018, 12:22 PM
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#24205 | | Willing to sell a family member for a few minutes on RS
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2jz motors have like 325hp. There’s plenty of reliable motors in that range.
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Originally Posted by boostfever Westopher is correct. | Quote:
Originally Posted by fsy82 seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked | Quote:
Originally Posted by punkwax Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct. | | |
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12-26-2018, 01:02 PM
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#24206 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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he already mentioned 2jz and as flexible/bulletproof as it is, was designed almost 30 years ago
and correction on the 2.0T G70 manual, it 'only' does around 6s in 0-60
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12-26-2018, 01:34 PM
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#24207 | | Willing to sell a family member for a few minutes on RS
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I know he mentioned it, but seemed to imply it was the only reliable motor in the 400-500hp range, which it doesn’t fit in at all.
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Originally Posted by boostfever Westopher is correct. | Quote:
Originally Posted by fsy82 seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked | Quote:
Originally Posted by punkwax Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct. | | |
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12-26-2018, 02:56 PM
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#24208 | | Captain Happy Bubble is my Homeboy
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2JZ with some simple bolt on it's 400+ hp motor, but I know it's not stock.
R35 GTR's VQ38TT is fairly reliable I think, although transmission is not as good but still way better than E60M's SMG...
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12-26-2018, 03:32 PM
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#24209 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Originally Posted by Akinari Y'all ain't got nothing on my cars.
My old Element was just shy of 360k kms before getting totalled. Ran a compression test a few months prior with perfect results.
My Corolla is around 274k kms now, zero issues as well aside from the usual blowby from the 1ZZ motors.
Meanwhile my old leased E90 needed a motor rebuild under warranty less than 30k kms in. | We have a Element on our lot with 220k and its still going for 7k. They're super reliable, desirable and retain resale value like crazy. I wish Honda resurrected the Element.
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12-26-2018, 04:03 PM
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#24210 | | Need my Daily Fix of RS
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Originally Posted by donjalapeno We have a Element on our lot with 220k and its still going for 7k. They're super reliable, desirable and retain resale value like crazy. I wish Honda resurrected the Element. | lol I was browsing local honda dealerships, I swear I saw that element you mentioned with 220k on it, and still going for $7k, insane...
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12-26-2018, 04:14 PM
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#24211 | | :: Sells McLarens, Not tofu :okay: ::
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those elements command insane value.
VR38 V6 from GTRs are actually reliable if left stock. have quite a few guys on the north american GTR board with well over 100k miles on their stock motors on stock tune.
pretty impressive consider they dish out between 480-575hp depending on years.
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12-26-2018, 05:14 PM
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#24212 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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any reason to pick an element over cr-v of that era?
very similar powertrain and i'd assume comparable cargo space
other than because hipster?
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12-26-2018, 05:20 PM
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#24213 | | Everyone wants a piece of R S...
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Originally Posted by tofu1413 those elements command insane value.
VR38 V6 from GTRs are actually reliable if left stock. have quite a few guys on the north american GTR board with well over 100k miles on their stock motors on stock tune.
pretty impressive consider they dish out between 480-575hp depending on years. | I heard that the dual clutch transmissions can be pricey to replace once they go. I wonder if the VRs motors burn oil like the older VQs.
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12-26-2018, 06:15 PM
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#24214 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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Originally Posted by twitchyzero any reason to pick an element over cr-v of that era?
very similar powertrain and i'd assume comparable cargo space
other than because hipster? | Way more common to find an Element w/ a manual
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12-26-2018, 06:35 PM
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#24215 | | Media Officer / MOD
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Originally Posted by twitchyzero any reason to pick an element over cr-v of that era?
very similar powertrain and i'd assume comparable cargo space
other than because hipster? | The Element is actually more practical even though it seats 4. It has lower ground clearance as well thanks to the fuel tank. If you ever looked under one you would see the flat gas tank that's under the seats with a metal bar that surrounds it to minimize damage.
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12-26-2018, 08:17 PM
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#24216 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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Listed as a 4 runner but pics and description say it's a 91 240sx Price $4000. Not an expert on 240's but seems like a fair price.  https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...80521548660199
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12-26-2018, 09:01 PM
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#24217 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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Originally Posted by !Aznboi128 The Element is actually more practical even though it seats 4. It has lower ground clearance as well thanks to the fuel tank. If you ever looked under one you would see the flat gas tank that's under the seats with a metal bar that surrounds it to minimize damage.. | i think 5 seats vs 4 is a more important criteria for most than no floor hump unless you're using it as a mini work horse hauling big objects often?
always saw it as a weird in-between of the Civic SiR, the old Civic Wagon and the CR-V
like the rx8-style suicide doors though
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12-26-2018, 11:44 PM
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#24218 | | :: Sells McLarens, Not tofu :okay: ::
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Originally Posted by jaaagman I heard that the dual clutch transmissions can be pricey to replace once they go. I wonder if the VRs motors burn oil like the older VQs. | Glass transmissions if cars are modified and launched regularly. Otherwise if you drive it and service it regularly they’ll last.
Oil consumption heard of common normal leaks (hot engine bay) and of course some turbos consuming oil (requiring rebuild for turbos)
Otherwise a normal ownership R35 that doesn’t get bagged on don’t blow up... but the thing is, who doesn’t bag on one?  it’s an R35. I see only upping power levels and neglect are really the factors on shortening a R35 life.
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12-27-2018, 07:20 AM
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#24219 | | 14 dolla balla aint got nothing on me!
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12-27-2018, 10:15 AM
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#24220 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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^^ mainly used it for work but drives 3000 kms a year?  And that buddy guy lean in the passenger seat
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12-27-2018, 11:02 AM
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#24222 | | Media Officer / MOD
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Originally Posted by Derpdidoo | Yea, demand is high.
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12-27-2018, 12:57 PM
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#24223 | | Rs has made me the woman i am today!
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Originally Posted by twitchyzero any reason to pick an element over cr-v of that era?
very similar powertrain and i'd assume comparable cargo space
other than because hipster? | Used K24A4 and A8 after the facelift. Same motors as the 7G Accords. Same 4WD system as the CR-V, strengthened DC5/EP3 f/r subframe. Strangely it shares more with the DC5/EP3 than it does with the CR-V which it's loosely based off of. Quote:
Originally Posted by Jmac Way more common to find an Element w/ a manual | Also easily accepts TSX 6th speed cog and any short shift kit/bushings etc. from a DC5/EP3. Quote:
Originally Posted by !Aznboi128 The Element is actually more practical even though it seats 4. It has lower ground clearance as well thanks to the fuel tank. If you ever looked under one you would see the flat gas tank that's under the seats with a metal bar that surrounds it to minimize damage. | Not a great car to slam, I eventually just took off the metal bar surrounding the gas tank for more clearance so I didn't scrape on every single thing on the ground  good times
God damn I miss my Element. Probably won't buy another one though, it's a money pit because of all the things that swap over from the DC5/EP3...
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12-28-2018, 12:00 PM
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#24224 | | 14 dolla balla aint got nothing on me!
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