sadly it is an automatic, but still...

2009 Pontiac G8 GXP Sedan

MonsterAuto.ca: 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP Sedan

... or just buy this already:

2013 MUSTANG BOSS 302

http://images.craigslist.org/00e0e_l...ZW_600x450.jpg

Since you are looking for an "all in one" car, the Mustang GT or new STI make sense. You could always get a previous gen STI hatchback but then it becomes a used car and if you're stuck on new then that won't work. Sounds like you have a thing for the Mustang and that's great. Bang for buck it's probably the best option for you based on your previous statements minus the winter/practical factor. Excited to see which direction you go.

I'm with most on here by saying get yourself a nice, cheap, reliable car and then buy a garage queen for track, cruisin', shows, meets, whatever. Personally, I could give a rats fuck what I daily as long as there's something waiting for me in my garage. If I was stupid rich I'd have a garage full of awesomeness and daily a Yaris.

2008 BMW M3 6 spd manual w/ Navigation -AVAILABLE

better than a mustang in every single category

you should really really consider a used STI. they can take a beating (high kms, track days..) with minimal upkeep.

except gas mileage? :concentrate:

wow.

nice.

not a big fan of the silverstone though :heckno:

5.0L V8 in the mustang VS a 4.0L V8 in the M3...

He's going to say that he puts 25-30k KMs on the car per year, and that wouldn't be a good idea for the M3 because of maintenance costs.

I think its become pretty apparent what he wants, and the only answer is the stang. Just needs a push off the end of that diving board.

you really basing your argument on engine displacement?

E92 M3s are known for absolutely piss poor MPGs

and a 5.0L Mustang is known for being eco friendly?

you said the M beats it on everything; i said "except MPGs?"

i never said eco friendly anywhere

lol i commented to a honda friend that i got a personal best of 11L/100kms with mine (3.73 gears) on the highway commuting between langley and vancouver on hwy 1 and he told me that would have been his personal worst in the city :lol

When I had my T88 Supra with the external wastegate I would basically orgasm at WOT

The 5.0L Mustang is very efficient, whereas the V8 used in the E92 M3 far from it.

Doesn't seem like that big of a difference... $850/year according to them. Except having to put Premium in the M3. People actually run their Mustangs on 87 octane?

http://i61.tinypic.com/1znx0t5.jpg

so.. is MPG a category that the M3 beat it in?

MPG wasn't one of the categories that he was worried about in the OP, so when I said that the M3 beat the Mustang, I was referring to his categories, not every single theoretical category you can come up with.

M3 runs on prem, whereas the Mustang is only reg.

cheaper servicing, easily can handle its own on a track, cheaper insurance?

Mustang gets my vote

preferably not. i think i read somewhere that you lose about 20hp by running 87. i did 87 back when prices reached $1.54/L, but my engine started to knock and now i won't go lower than 91.

i can't feel any difference between 91 and 94 however...

If you are trying to defend your post in every imaginable way, then I will play too.

If you reviewed his first post, this is one of his categories (optional though, but emphasis on MUCH):

"-Would MUCh rather a new car. I know a used car is cheaper, blah blah blah, i love owning a car and knowing it was lovingly cared for in every way."

2008 is not newer than 2013.

This thread reminds of that old sayin'

No replacement for.....

anyhow getting off topic, and dont care anymore

An M3 with 70,000km on it, yeah imagine the maintenance costs to drive it 5 years and 125,000kms?

Going to test drive an STi tmrw i think.

EDIT: Are the 2015's on lots yet?

what about used Evo? If you are considering used STI ...