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06-24-2014, 06:07 PM
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So I've been pouring Shell 91 in my 750i for the past couple of weeks. I usually pour Chevron 94 but wanted to see what happen if I switched to Shell 91 because 91 is the BMW recommended octane.
What I found is with 91 my car has a very rough idle when I come to a full stop at the lights, feels similar to the infamous gas pump issue the early e92's had. With 94 I never encountered a rough idle.
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06-25-2014, 09:31 AM
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My car do require 94...  | |
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06-25-2014, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by IMASA  Yup, I agree. Chevron 94 octane lets me run timing similar to what others using Cali 91 gas run. US 92 is far superior than our 94. | Agreed
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06-25-2014, 12:30 PM
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Does anyone have any science to back up this US 92 > CDN 94? I mean an actual fuel analysis comparing multiple brands, not some dyno pulls that leave a shit tonne of variables out of the equation.
Also octane boosters are junk, if you need to bump your octane use Toluene which can actually bump your octane a significant amount, the boosters will only bump you like 0.1
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06-25-2014, 12:54 PM
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#55 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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Originally Posted by LemonT I remember RG did a dyno of US Chevron 92 vs CND 94 on a stock wrx with a stock tune, made something like 5% extra HP, My butt dyno seemed to notice the difference as well in my own car, link: http://www.revscene.net/forums/68154...dien-fuel.html
Correction: CND 94 typo | Except the 02 WRX calls for 91, not 94, and it's known that running too high of an octane will lose you power. So they didn't gain anything, they lost power because they used too high of an octane.
Plus you have to factor in how the ECU works, you would need to reset it, completely drain the fuel system, then drive it time to learn, then dyno. Repeat for every other fuel you want to test with.
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06-25-2014, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by underscore Does anyone have any science to back up this US 92 > CDN 94? I mean an actual fuel analysis comparing multiple brands, not some dyno pulls that leave a shit tonne of variables out of the equation.
| Disclaimer: I'm not an expert but this is the clearest answer I've pieced together without actually talking to a tuner in person.
From what I understand it's pretty much all down to the "zero" ethanol content of Chevron 94.
In FI applications, ethanol is more "stable" at compression and is wanted to prevent detonation (ethanol changes the RON vs MON ratio of that fuel), but it puts out less energy / burns cooler during combustion. So you typically add a bit more fuel to keep things right, especially as boost pressure increases. A lot of big power turbo builders seem to leap at the chance to run e85, presumably for this reason.
NA motors & tuners prefer fuel with as little ethanol as possible because boost/air density is less variable. They're just focused on spark timing and resultant AFR.
Many fuel maps written by tuners in the US or other regions may be writing in an assumed adjustment for a 10% ethanol content - which usually adds a certain % more fuel. On Chevron 94, this extra fuel will make your car seem bogged down due to a richer mix.
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06-25-2014, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by eason_c My car do require 94... | What car?
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06-25-2014, 08:10 PM
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06-26-2014, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Manic! What car? | E63
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06-26-2014, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by eason_c E63 | So what do people in Cali do? The highest they can get is 91.
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