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1. expected the use of Imax cameras, space, exploration, etc. would mean excellent cinematography, but Nope. Instead we get constant close-ups/tight spaces/and lazy CGI
2. the constant attempt at making the undramatic, excessively dramatic was annoying (the docking sequences come to mind; his son returning to the farm for two)
3. you know what's coming right from the beginning but it took about 2.5hours before we got to it and the movie actually started before then it was just mind numbingly needless time wasting (see #2)
4. the last 30mins? was acceptable at best, kinda lame, but compared to the rest of it it was great
5. Matthew was good and I liked the casting of his daughters they performed well and actually looked like one another (the role of his son seemed completely needless)
not really but kind of a spoiler? so spoilered
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I love sci-fi flicks mind you and this reminded me of Sunshine (which was excellent) but couldn't hold a candle to it imo even with Sunshines weaknesses (like the antagonist which Matt Damons character reminded me of)
When the lights came on in the theatre (20% full) it looked like everyone was jarred awake by the lights and groggily got up and labouriously made their way down the steps
All in all disappointed but it passed the time.
4/10
I suspect a lot of the love is due to Christopher Nolan fans
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u guys just all gotta check out
2001: a space odyssey
you'll know what exactly this movie was paying homage to.
To even compare it to 2001 is an insult imo
This failed everywhere 2001 succeeded in
Edit about the ending...
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I thought they would tie in what Anne Hathaway and Matt Damons characters were saying about love being a powerful draw and in the end McConaughey would see his kids because that's what he wanted most...(so he imagined the ending as he dies) but if that's what Nolan tried to convey in the end there it didn't play out how I would have expected as it not only ties in but also adds too much to the story be related, imho, to that concept.... so instead of tying in the long winded scenes of Damon & Hathaway, which would have made the movie pretty good, we get a kind of lame/quick explanation of 'oh evolved humans did it causing a paradox'. In doing so it really hurt the movie for me and caused me to dislike those scenes with Damon & Hathaway even more
But then if he didn't do that too many people would be bitching for an explanation about the 'ghost' and wormholes so I guess Nolan was damned either way...
Watched it in 70mm IMAX today. I've already reviewed the movie, so here are some of my thoughts of what I found different:
The most important difference to me was the sound mixing in IMAX was far superior to the regular edit. I could actually hear the dialogue, and not just reverberating bass.
The IMAX scenes were gorgeous. Basically any scene you were in awe for (if you were in awe, for that matter), were just unbelievable on IMAX. If you have a chance, definitely try and catch it on the BIGger screen (digital or 70mm).
The "normal" parts to the movie somehow looked worse. The dynamic range wasn't there, so there was a lot of things in darkness that I don't remember being dark. It might be the older theatre, but maybe not.
If there's one thing that leaving film as a medium is good for, it's the lack of "crap" on the reels while you're watching. For a good 10 minutes, there was a stray pube right on screen. It would've driven me insane had it been the first time watching it.
How did Topher Grace get so much IMAX screen time? I swear there's a huge chunk of him on the big screen, but WHY?
tl;dr-
If you loved the movie in digital, you'll love it even more in IMAX (either film or digital). If you had trouble hearing dialogue, try to catch it in IMAX. If you love Topher Grace, try to catch it in IMAX.
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To even compare it to 2001 is an insult imo
This failed everywhere 2001 succeeded in
Edit about the ending...
Spoiler!
I thought they would tie in what Anne Hathaway and Matt Damons characters were saying about love being a powerful draw and in the end McConaughey would see his kids because that's what he wanted most...(so he imagined the ending as he dies) but if that's what Nolan tried to convey in the end there it didn't play out how I would have expected as it not only ties in but also adds too much to the story be related, imho, to that concept.... so instead of tying in the long winded scenes of Damon & Hathaway, which would have made the movie pretty good, we get a kind of lame/quick explanation of 'oh evolved humans did it causing a paradox'. In doing so it really hurt the movie for me and caused me to dislike those scenes with Damon & Hathaway even more
But then if he didn't do that too many people would be bitching for an explanation about the 'ghost' and wormholes so I guess Nolan was damned either way...
But I wonder if in a way, Interstellar succeeded where 2001 failed... ie. Giant space baby.
I think for the most part, Interstellar managed to semi-neatly tie up it's loose ends. Even if those loose ends were drawn from plot devices that were way too hastily set up to have any emotional buy-in.
For example:
Spoiler!
"Hey Coop, you're perfect to fly this shit through a worm hole."
"Roger that NASA, I'm good to go. Fuck you kids, I'm outta here."
I think the only character I really had any empathy for was Dr. Mann.
Spoiler!
That dude got the short end of the stick. And while being a little too high and mighty during his speech, you could sense the desperation and his struggle with his humanity/guilt when he leaves Cooper to die.
The other major plot devices were pretty weak. Overall, I feel like it was some sort of visual tour de force that really had no substance behind it, other than an overly dramatic score that was really kind of annoying at times.
The one thing that did have me excited, only to let me down:
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The possibility of seeing Cooper pilot the new generation ranger ship, which kind of looked like it might a one man fighter with have combat capability (his flight suit was coincidentally military colored). This was interesting to me because at that point, man had been able to utilize gravity, and it's possible that the fighter/ship might of used a gravatic drive instead of using conventional (as we know them) engines. That would mean the ship could utilize a singularity to generate momentum and travel at near relativistic speeds! /end sci-fi nerd rant
*sigh* Ok it wasn't exactly as bad as I'm making it out to be... but even the people I watched it with, who aren't very critical viewers felt cheated.
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[*]The "normal" parts to the movie somehow looked worse. The dynamic range wasn't there, so there was a lot of things in darkness that I don't remember being dark. It might be the older theatre, but maybe not.
think i made a comment somewhere but the normal scenes were upconverted (albeit from a 4k source) and it was reported those images looked weak/soft
I didn't know that the regular versions of the film had horrible audio though, I noticed the dialogue issues (didn't see it in imax) and thought that was just how Nolan made it; which was quite annoying edit: well looks like Nolan and team wanted it that way http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/17/7...sound-designer
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But I wonder if in a way, Interstellar succeeded where 2001 failed... ie. Giant space baby.
lol i dunno if that had never been done before and i saw it today i would be like but since its from the 60's I guess I give it allowances
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I think the only character I really had any empathy for was Dr. Mann.
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That dude got the short end of the stick. And while being a little too high and mighty during his speech, you could sense the desperation and his struggle with his humanity/guilt when he leaves Cooper to die.
Damon performed well but its just a nitpick for me i guess that his type of characters profile/m.o. has been overused for me (from other films) so i didn't really care either :/
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The one thing that did have me excited, only to let me down:
Spoiler!
The possibility of seeing Cooper pilot the new generation ranger ship, which kind of looked like it might a one man fighter with have combat capability (his flight suit was coincidentally military colored). This was interesting to me because at that point, man had been able to utilize gravity, and it's possible that the fighter/ship might of used a gravatic drive instead of using conventional (as we know them) engines. That would mean the ship could utilize a singularity to generate momentum and travel at near relativistic speeds! /end sci-fi nerd rant
*sigh* Ok it wasn't exactly as bad as I'm making it out to be... but even the people I watched it with, who aren't very critical viewers felt cheated.
YES! that's a complaint I've seen and heard a lot! I'm actually pretty surprised so many ppl feel the same way about that...maybe they'll release an extended version on disc with it
I think my expectations may have been too high...i dunno..so we were pretty bummed out by it however not so let down that we would walk out of the movie (which we've done before)
2. the constant attempt at making the undramatic, excessively dramatic was annoying (the docking sequences come to mind; his son returning to the farm for two)
What goes on in your mind during scenes like these? Because both times I was on the edge of my seat, palms sweating...
If you don't buy those tense moments (and I think you said the same thing about Gravity) I'd be curious to know what type of movie it takes to get your heart pumping...
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What goes on in your mind during scenes like these? Because both times I was on the edge of my seat, palms sweating...
If you don't buy those tense moments (and I think you said the same thing about Gravity) I'd be curious to know what type of movie it takes to get your heart pumping...
no i liked gravity (as far as i can remember anyway)
i just didn't feel it in those docking moments...it just seemed comical to me with the zimmer music going crazy over coupling it was like especially on the 2nd/3rd time it was like COME ON
it just didn't seem like an act that deserved being played up since its an act that astronauts would be used to (McConaugheys character anyway since it's not his first rodeo) or the robots/computer systems iirc the first tense docking scene was handled by the marine robot
the only docking sequence that deserved all the drama was the last one (given the circumstances) but by that time i was already jaded and im like "here we go again"
It was well done by Nolan though. His whole intention of the secret cast was for the effect of when we see him, we all have him ingrained as the protagonist that will save the day... It totally worked on me.
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Watched it in 70mm IMAX today. I've already reviewed the movie, so here are some of my thoughts of what I found different:
The most important difference to me was the sound mixing in IMAX was far superior to the regular edit. I could actually hear the dialogue, and not just reverberating bass.
The IMAX scenes were gorgeous. Basically any scene you were in awe for (if you were in awe, for that matter), were just unbelievable on IMAX. If you have a chance, definitely try and catch it on the BIGger screen (digital or 70mm).
The "normal" parts to the movie somehow looked worse. The dynamic range wasn't there, so there was a lot of things in darkness that I don't remember being dark. It might be the older theatre, but maybe not.
If there's one thing that leaving film as a medium is good for, it's the lack of "crap" on the reels while you're watching. For a good 10 minutes, there was a stray pube right on screen. It would've driven me insane had it been the first time watching it.
How did Topher Grace get so much IMAX screen time? I swear there's a huge chunk of him on the big screen, but WHY?
tl;dr-
If you loved the movie in digital, you'll love it even more in IMAX (either film or digital). If you had trouble hearing dialogue, try to catch it in IMAX. If you love Topher Grace, try to catch it in IMAX.
no i liked gravity (as far as i can remember anyway)
i just didn't feel it in those docking moments...it just seemed comical to me with the zimmer music going crazy over coupling it was like especially on the 2nd/3rd time it was like COME ON
it just didn't seem like an act that deserved being played up since its an act that astronauts would be used to (McConaugheys character anyway since it's not his first rodeo) or the robots/computer systems iirc the first tense docking scene was handled by the marine robot
the only docking sequence that deserved all the drama was the last one (given the circumstances) but by that time i was already jaded and im like "here we go again"
I think that perhaps you're being overly critical, because you weren't able to be "immersed" as myself and others who liked it were.
The repetition of the docking sequences were never "here we go again"...because I was "in" the movie, and it wasn't a repetition of the same event, but just the next event in a marvelous sequence of very interesting events.
Maybe not totally equivalent, but it's kind of like thinking to yourself "here we go again" as your wife starts screaming having her third child, because you've already witnessed it twice.
If you loved the movie in digital, you'll love it even more in IMAX (either film or digital). If you had trouble hearing dialogue, try to catch it in IMAX. If you love Topher Grace, try to catch it in IMAX.
BTW, interesting point I came across regarding Digital IMAX vs. film:
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Film-based IMAX runs 65mm film stock sideways through the projector. This format means each frame of the movie is held on a very large area of film.
This large physical area results in a very high image quality.
If you wanted to faithfully represent this image digitally you might use 8000x4000 = 32M pixels. At a pinch you might get away with 6000x3000 = 18M pixels.
Digital IMAX uses the same large screen size as IMAX but replaces the film with a 2K digital projection system.
So you are seeing only 2 Million pixels in the image. You read that correctly.
The thing they call "Digital IMAX" contains 10 or 20X less picture information.
IMAX has plans to replace the projectors with 4K models. But currently, Digital IMAX is pretty much the same resolution as your domestic 1080P TV (1920x1080).
In other words, go see Interstellar on actual film.
Digital IMAX is not a high resolution format.
I can see general audience not liking it. I very much enjoyed it and didn't want it to end. I went in totally blind didn't know the cast (except for Matthew) and dint even see a trailer. Bu that's because I KNEW I'd like it and didn't want to spoiler anything.
The love shit was lame. But the rest was awesome sauce
I am not. I'm just a huge fan of spectacles and, from what I read online, seeing Interstellar in 70mm IMAX was the way to watch it. I couldn't wait another week to see it, so I watched it in UltraAVX opening weekend. I'm glad I did because I was able to really appreciate the IMAX scenes for what they were after the fact. I actually love the film more after seeing it again in IMAX.
If you're really looking for something to do, I really suggest heading down to Seattle to check it out in 70mm IMAX. It's supposedly the last feature film to be done in the format, so at least you can say that you saw it in 70mm IMAX. If you do go, however, do get your tickets online early and arrive early to line-up. I went 40 mins early and was halfway through the lineup. All shows were sold out for the past 2 weekends (4 per day I believe).
Make a day out of it if you feel silly going down to see a movie. I went to catch the early showing, then spent the rest of the day eating and chilling at Pike Place.
Edit: I thought I'd share this. I've been listening to it all day and it's made me want to watch the film again just for this one scene. Spoilered since it's taken from the film (audio):
Skinny feel free to take it down if it violates anything.
And for you guys that didn't like the film. I will concede that the dialogue is almost "George Lucas"-like. As evidenced by the clip above. It's pretty bad in some parts lol
Lots of debate on this. Is it because its by Nolan? It sure is an adventurous project for him.
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Already mentioned, but i'll say it again.. to each of their own. I agree, the character developments were rushed, but I didn't feel like it was trying to sell that. In my opinion, it was making the viewers empathize for Cooper and what he's going through. That is how I saw the movie. In that perspective, it has sold me ten times over.
I DL'ed the FLAC of the OST. Zimmerman's masterpiece.
watched it in digital IMAX...audio was very immersive so you felt like you were actually in the ship but I did have trouble hearing some dialogue.
non-IMAX scenes were indeed pretty bad...mostly on Earth so you don't miss out on too much details.
i'd rate the movie 7/10...i may appreciate it more on subsequent viewings esp the last 45 minutes. I applaud Nolan for trying to take tackle themes of this scale...but I don't think he'll ever top Memento for coherence and artistic style. I've noticed The Dark Knight Rises and this one the last 45 min feels too rushed and suffers feature creep as he tries to cram too much shit in for that epiphany factor.
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Didn't Dr. Brand (Caine) already figure out gravity 40 years ago or was that Matt Damon simply lying? What exactly did Cooper convey to Murphy that helped her solve all of man kind's problem?
no i liked gravity (as far as i can remember anyway)
i just didn't feel it in those docking moments...it just seemed comical to me with the zimmer music going crazy over coupling it was like especially on the 2nd/3rd time it was like COME ON
it just didn't seem like an act that deserved being played up since its an act that astronauts would be used to (McConaugheys character anyway since it's not his first rodeo) or the robots/computer systems iirc the first tense docking scene was handled by the marine robot
the only docking sequence that deserved all the drama was the last one (given the circumstances) but by that time i was already jaded and im like "here we go again"
This definitely gives me some insight on how you approach movies, and probably why our tastes differ so much... Interesting!
watched it in digital IMAX...audio was very immersive so you felt like you were actually in the ship but I did have trouble hearing some dialogue.
non-IMAX scenes were indeed pretty bad...mostly on Earth so you don't miss out on too much details.
i'd rate the movie 7/10...i may appreciate it more on subsequent viewings esp the last 45 minutes. I applaud Nolan for trying to take tackle themes of this scale...but I don't think he'll ever top Memento for coherence and artistic style. I've noticed The Dark Knight Rises and this one the last 45 min feels too rushed and suffers feature creep as he tries to cram too much shit in for that epiphany factor.
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Didn't Dr. Brand (Caine) already figure out gravity 40 years ago or was that Matt Damon simply lying? What exactly did Cooper convey to Murphy that helped her solve all of man kind's problem?
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You're correct- Old Dr. Brand solved his form of the equation decades ago, but essentially "as best he could". The solution to get the stations off the ground required quantum data not accessible to anyone on earth. Basically, it's only available "from inside the singularity" aka the core of the black hole. That data from TARS was recorded when the two went into Gargantua, and that's what was relayed via morse to the watch for Murph.
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but since its from the 60's I guess I give it allowances 
especially on the 2nd/3rd time it was like COME ON 
