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This looks like a really great movie. I have heard great reviews and have even heard there is a surprise actor that was not advertised in it. does anyone know who that actor is? Or is it a spoiler.
Ok here's something about the plot that I've been wondering:
Spoiler!
So Cooper falls into the black hole, ends up in a tesseract and TARS gets the quantum data. Coop deduces that it was made by humans far in the future that have been able to transcend space and time.
Ok, we know that humanity is on the brink of failure, and the data on how to get the facility into space is in the data that's given to what's-her-face by Coop through the bookcase (which I still think is dumb). Now how would beings in the far future exist if we assume that humanity died because they never got the quantum data required?
Are we to believe that the chicken came before the egg?
You know, when SP said I missed out, I thought...hey, maybe I actually missed some important pieces in the movie. I watched youtube videos explaining the movie, read posts, studied diagrams, etc....and it was exactly what I thought the movie was about. The movie is pretty straight forward, right? Why are there people explaining and drawing diagrams on this??
It's straight-forward. The diagrams are to help explain the gist of the movie, but there's no "deeper meaning" stuff. The hardest part for people to comprehend was the last third of the movie, but once you get it explained via watching it again or reading supplemental material you'll get the entire movie.
Ok here's something about the plot that I've been wondering:
Spoiler!
So Cooper falls into the black hole, ends up in a tesseract and TARS gets the quantum data. Coop deduces that it was made by humans far in the future that have been able to transcend space and time.
Ok, we know that humanity is on the brink of failure, and the data on how to get the facility into space is in the data that's given to what's-her-face by Coop through the bookcase (which I still think is dumb). Now how would beings in the far future exist if we assume that humanity died because they never got the quantum data required?
Are we to believe that the chicken came before the egg?
Spoiler!
I would think that from every decision we make, there is another universe that is spawned where the choice we make is the opposite of the one we made in reality. Aka alternate realities. If the movie is explained in that way. Maybe there was another way that Coop found NORAD, like if the prof straight out approached him and he said yes. Then from that reality, he went into bookcase scene to make it happen.
In the end it was a scifi movie, you could make up just about anything to make it plausible or justified. haha
My favorite characters from the movie are the two robots: CASE and TARS. I loved their design - it's not anthropomorphic, it's unique and geometrically engaging. The fact that they can subdivide into smaller parts and then form geometric shapes that can be very useful.
Plus their sense of humor is awesome.
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Damn, not only is yours veiny AF, yours is thick AF too. Yours is twice as thick as mine.. That looks like a 2" or maybe even 3"?
My favorite characters from the movie are the two robots: CASE and TARS. I loved their design - it's not anthropomorphic, it's unique and geometrically engaging. The fact that they can subdivide into smaller parts and then form geometric shapes that can be very useful.
Plus their sense of humor is awesome.
I was the only one laughing hysterically at this line:
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WHY ARE YOU WHISPERING THEY CAN'T HEAR YOU
I guess everyone was too into the movie to care for that wonderful wit lol.
My favorite characters from the movie are the two robots: CASE and TARS. I loved their design - it's not anthropomorphic, it's unique and geometrically engaging. The fact that they can subdivide into smaller parts and then form geometric shapes that can be very useful.
Plus their sense of humor is awesome.
they pay homage to the black obelisk in 2001: a space odyssey
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Ok here's something about the plot that I've been wondering:
Spoiler!
So Cooper falls into the black hole, ends up in a tesseract and TARS gets the quantum data. Coop deduces that it was made by humans far in the future that have been able to transcend space and time.
Ok, we know that humanity is on the brink of failure, and the data on how to get the facility into space is in the data that's given to what's-her-face by Coop through the bookcase (which I still think is dumb). Now how would beings in the far future exist if we assume that humanity died because they never got the quantum data required?
Are we to believe that the chicken came before the egg?
Spoiler!
he went into the 5th dimension where every single possibility of every single time in the 3d exists... the 5th dimension is something just like... it IS space time fabric, therefore all of it exists already, and you can modify it as you wish... paradox is normal. catch 22 is normal. because you cannot think of time as linear like the way we do in 3 dimensions. it's like a strip of tape, and he edits the end which loops back to the beginning... something like that.
basically, you can't think of time linearly like the way we do in upper dimensions, all of it exists... like if we rolled out a reel of a movie. the movie doesn't have to play out for the things to happen, they all exist already
^That is an excellent explanation for those of you wondering the same thing roast was. There's also a video by Neil deGrasse Tyson that explains the same ideas.
he went into the 5th dimension where every single possibility of every single time in the 3d exists... the 5th dimension is something just like... it IS space time fabric, therefore all of it exists already, and you can modify it as you wish... paradox is normal. catch 22 is normal. because you cannot think of time as linear like the way we do in 3 dimensions. it's like a strip of tape, and he edits the end which loops back to the beginning... something like that.
basically, you can't think of time linearly like the way we do in upper dimensions, all of it exists... like if we rolled out a reel of a movie. the movie doesn't have to play out for the things to happen, they all exist already
What you've explained is more the idea of things appearing in a quantum state: ie. Schrodinger's Cat (in the box, it's both alive and dead at the same time) or the double slit experiment (which actually kind of freaks me out as it's unexplainable). The tesseract, if indeed in the 5th dimension shows a single timeline: "each of us are collapsing the indeterminate wave of probable futures contained in the 5th dimension into the 4th dimensional line, that we are experiencing as time". Jumping from the 6D from the 5D would be the only way to change a 'future' but then it wouldn't be the original timeline.
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So apparently, Cooper and Brand are doomed to die alone:
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"IGN Nolan gives us the scoop"
Nolan: So the idea with the film was that it was a wormhole that leads us to a place that creates an opportunity for us and then disappears. By the end of Cooper's journey, the wormhole is gone. It's up to us now to undertake the massive journey of spreading out across the face of our galaxy. Brand is still somewhere out there on the far side of the wormhole. The wormhole has disappeared entirely. It's gone.
IGN: And he has to try and get to Brand in this little ship?
What you've explained is more the idea of things appearing in a quantum state: ie. Schrodinger's Cat (in the box, it's both alive and dead at the same time) or the double slit experiment (which actually kind of freaks me out as it's unexplainable). The tesseract, if indeed in the 5th dimension shows a single timeline: "each of us are collapsing the indeterminate wave of probable futures contained in the 5th dimension into the 4th dimensional line, that we are experiencing as time". Jumping from the 6D from the 5D would be the only way to change a 'future' but then it wouldn't be the original timeline.
Spoiler!
So apparently, Cooper and Brand are doomed to die alone:
Even with a gravatic drive, he'd never make it!
Spoiler!
lol i always thought the big future base near saturn was a staging ground, a forward base for going back and forth through the wormhole... wtf if there's no wormhole how can he even get to her?
anyway... it doesnt matter what the "original" timeline is... all timelines are equal. you just live the one u are in or the one you get to. the ones that turn to disaster already exist... there must be an infinite amount of timelines where they all die, but it doesnt matter, cuz he jumps into the one where they don't die so... yeah lol, basically, fuck the other timelines, they don't matter.
lol i always thought the big future base near saturn was a staging ground, a forward base for going back and forth through the wormhole... wtf if there's no wormhole how can he even get to her?
anyway... it doesnt matter what the "original" timeline is... all timelines are equal. you just live the one u are in or the one you get to. the ones that turn to disaster already exist... there must be an infinite amount of timelines where they all die, but it doesnt matter, cuz he jumps into the one where they don't die so... yeah lol, basically, fuck the other timelines, they don't matter.
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Yeah, I thought the same thing as well. Especially when they showed all the new Rangers in the launch bay. "Cool! Humanity's doing something and venturing out in the universe!". Nope. Not the case... probably exploring pluto or some shit. I really wanted to see the ship in action but the film ended. Saved money for sure... but it was really the only thing that really captured my attention.