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you'll get the car in situations you'll never get to see on the street, and if u do at a track day, you'll end up with a very expensive repair bill.
It's true. After spinning out so many times in my S, I've mastered the spin, put her in neutral and drive the course backwards, away from the people.
Spun it on T9 at Mission, ass first towards the wall.
Put the car in neutral and drove it back wards down the front straight.
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and icing on the cake, lady driving a newer chrysler 200 infront of me... jumped out of her car, dropped her pants, did an immediate squat and did probably the longest public relief ever...... steam and all.
i work every weekend. so that throws pretty much all of that out the window. and also on my motorcycle there aren't really autox. so that would be straight to novice track day events.
anywyas. good info
ubcscc is on a Monday
all ffdxtss events are on the weekend so you're shit out of luck anyways
Is the rear set lower than the front or is the wing really pushing it down that much?
that car is all functional
the angle of the wing was done specifically to generate more downforce than the angle of the curve of the wingblade itself can generate
the amount of downforce with this setup is tremendous and the improvement in laptimes show this vs last year with no wing (~8 seconds faster - a good chunk of that time can be a mixture of improved driver skills, confidence level, and extra downforce)
Dont forget that the car was almost certainly getting on the gas at that point, so weight transfer would also have pressed down on the back end as well.
Thanks man. Should be picking up an intercooler setup shortly (as even in stock form, the ST has a heat soaking problem). I gotta get my butt in gear for this studf
the angle of the wing was done specifically to generate more downforce than the angle of the curve of the wingblade itself can generate
the amount of downforce with this setup is tremendous and the improvement in laptimes show this vs last year with no wing (~8 seconds faster - a good chunk of that time can be a mixture of improved driver skills, confidence level, and extra downforce)
I never saw this car up close but let me ask you one question. How did he mount his wing? Is it anchored to the trunk floor and support by the rear sub frame? If not then he is doing it wrong. I am no expert in aero. I only have a little more of that on my car than others. His wing position is typical time attack style but there are so many support element missing to make it safe. I suspect he merely mount it on gap between the trunk lid and the rear quarter panel. In general that is a good location to mount a wing to the chassis but his wing position (relative to the chassis) will generate massive amount of down force. Given the leg is at 45 degree there will massive amount of leverage apply to the mounting location. IMO, probably too much for that mount location to handle without additional support. On top of that, I don’t see a splitter. Wing of that size and position can/will upset the chassis balance BIG Time. It is possible to have too much aero.
I know you are a friend of him. I urge you to talk to him to revise his aero if my assumption of his mounting is correct. He may be able to walk away if his aero fail, but the one following him may not. I support aero upgrade but it has to be done in a safe and responsible manner.
For those having second thoughts because you might "destroy" your car on the track, it's very hard to do so unless you completely miss a gear or don't know what the brakes are.
Just know your car's weak points and bring some necessary equipment or spares.
There's a large variety of vehicles that go, like a Focus ST behind me, and FRS in front.
My first group even had a Porsche Macan, so there is absolutely no reason not to bring your /insertsportscarhere along. I encourage everyone to come to the next one, it's a blast and I love putting names to faces also!
For those having second thoughts because you might "destroy" your car on the track, it's very hard to do so unless you completely miss a gear or don't know what the brakes are.
Just know your car's weak points and bring some necessary equipment or spares.
There's a large variety of vehicles that go, like a Focus ST behind me, and FRS in front.
My first group even had a Porsche Macan, so there is absolutely no reason not to bring your /insertsportscarhere along. I encourage everyone to come to the next one, it's a blast and I love putting names to faces also!
For those having second thoughts because you might "destroy" your car on the track, it's very hard to do so unless you completely miss a gear or don't know what the brakes are.
It is not that hard to do it on Pacific Raceway. I have seen too many car flipped up-side-down, in the trees, and up the hill.
I never saw this car up close but let me ask you one question. How did he mount his wing? Is it anchored to the trunk floor and support by the rear sub frame? If not then he is doing it wrong. I am no expert in aero. I only have a little more of that on my car than others. His wing position is typical time attack style but there are so many support element missing to make it safe. I suspect he merely mount it on gap between the trunk lid and the rear quarter panel. In general that is a good location to mount a wing to the chassis but his wing position (relative to the chassis) will generate massive amount of down force. Given the leg is at 45 degree there will massive amount of leverage apply to the mounting location. IMO, probably too much for that mount location to handle without additional support.
I think you might be onto something, when I talked to the owner at the RS meet he told me he had calculated the load bearing force based on the amount of pizza that was stacked ontop of his trunk at the last track day. He said the approximate load on the wing with a safety factor of 2 should be approximately 70-80 pizzas or 110.4kg (1083.024N).
Someone once told me engineers make good assumptions are you in the industry v67gsr? Would love to hear more about your assumption and calculations on the load bearing force at 45 degree angle.
Do you think his setup is meant to handle the amount of pizzas he claims it can hold?
I think you might be onto something, when I talked to the owner at the RS meet he told me he had calculated the load bearing force based on the amount of pizza that was stacked ontop of his trunk at the last track day. He said the approximate load on the wing with a safety factor of 2 should be approximately 70-80 pizzas or 110.4kg (1083.024N).
Someone once told me engineers make good assumptions are you in the industry v67gsr? Would love to hear more about your assumption and calculations on the load bearing force at 45 degree angle.
Do you think his setup is meant to handle the amount of pizzas he claims it can hold?
Please. If you seriously think your creation is worthy, at least admit it is your own car. Don’t give $hit like “I talked to the owner” unless you have Schizophrenia.
Your pizza example does not resemble what is happening to the mounting location. Do some study before you start arguing. I am no engineer but I do know a bit about aero because I paid a lot of attention in this topic in the past 7 years. I hate to say this but the way you do your aero resemble a lot of ricer and time attack wannbe. Do yourself a favor, redesign it, don’t be a joke and a ticking time bomb moving around town. Last thing we want is someone head got chopped off because you refused to accept some basic physic.
Ok, now that my project car is coming along, I'm definitely itching to dip my feet into these track days.
Only issue is, where the hell do I start? lol
After reading through this thread, it seems there are a few different ways of going about it... I'm looking for the best way for a complete newb
It seems like it would be a blast, but I want to make sure I go about this the right way
1. brake pads
2. tires
3. brake fluid
4. reliable car, free of leaks, loose parts, and rubbing
5. sign up for motorsportsreg
after all that just search mission events locally, mission is a great place to learn, very technical and its a great equalizer for cars that dont have 200+ hp. some good local clubs you can add to your motorsportsreg watch list are VCMC, UBCSCC, PDC, SCCBC. i personally always start the season off with a shakedown at mission, if anything were to go wrong, its local so theres less stress.