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For a new driver (at autox), I -- or any other autox veteran, for that matter -- can't stress enough how much it helps to have a senior driver ride along with you. The insights and suggestions that they can see and make are always phenomenal in helping new drivers develop. After that, you want to hop into their cars, and see for yourself how it is done, and what a veteran driver would do differently from what you do. It is always eye-opening to see what a fast driver can pull off.
Oh on this note I should add, for Raydays #1 (first time), I couldn't break 50 even with autox veterans in the car (friends), so before run 8, I had my instructor, drive my car so that he can have a better sense of what I'm dealing with. Instructor drove and hit high 47. Then with him in the car for run 8, I broke 50. After that was solo.
For Raydays #2 (second time), after the first run, I was cleared to drive solo. Instructor was the guy with the matte black e36 Knox hillclimb car. Drove the rest of the session with friends who are experienced with autox, and did the last run solo.
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For a new driver (at autox), I -- or any other autox veteran, for that matter -- can't stress enough how much it helps to have a senior driver ride along with you. The insights and suggestions that they can see and make are always phenomenal in helping new drivers develop. After that, you want to hop into their cars, and see for yourself how it is done, and what a veteran driver would do differently from what you do. It is always eye-opening to see what a fast driver can pull off.
We did Thunderbird in my Celica GTS that's lowered 2" and it survived just fine
Welp, KVR didn't go *quite* as smoothly. Near the start of the first regularity I blew the passenger front strut, so that corner kept bottoming out with increasingly loud bangs. Regs 2 and 3 went fine, but a few km into reg 4 we blew the passenger front tire. On its own that's no big deal, but while swapping on the spare we noticed the strut mount was blown to bits so everything was able to flop around quite a bit anytime that corner was unloaded. We decided not to push it (I figured it wouldn't be long before the strut broke completely free and came through the hood) and limped it home. I can't say for sure how much of the damage was from KVR and how much was carried over damage from Thunderbird (and how much was just old parts failing) but we've got plans to give the car 5" more clearance and 4" more suspension travel for Totem.
__________________ 1991 Toyota Celica GTFour RC // 2007 Toyota Rav4 V6 // 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee
1992 Toyota Celica GT-S ["sold"] \\ 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee CRD [sold] \\ 2000 Jeep Cherokee [sold] \\ 1997 Honda Prelude [sold] \\ 1992 Jeep YJ [sold/crashed] \\ 1987 Mazda RX-7 [sold] \\ 1987 Toyota Celica GT-S [crushed]
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half those dudes are hotter than ,my GF.
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reading this thread is like waiting for goku to charge up a spirit bomb in dragon ball z
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OH thank god. I thought u had sex with my wife. :cry:
Having our day cut short sucked, but on the plus side we've got a much better long-term plan for rallying.
- Fix broken stuff on 2WD Celica
- Finish 4WD Celica and put it for sale again
- Put 2WD Celica back to stock height + spacer lift
- Enter Totem
- Buy rally computer to run Unlimited class
- Enter Thunderbird
- Sell 2WD Celica once the 4WD one sells and import a 97-98 GTFour
- Have second set of hubs/strut assemblies for swapping between track/daily mode and rally mode without needing an alignment
__________________ 1991 Toyota Celica GTFour RC // 2007 Toyota Rav4 V6 // 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee
1992 Toyota Celica GT-S ["sold"] \\ 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee CRD [sold] \\ 2000 Jeep Cherokee [sold] \\ 1997 Honda Prelude [sold] \\ 1992 Jeep YJ [sold/crashed] \\ 1987 Mazda RX-7 [sold] \\ 1987 Toyota Celica GT-S [crushed]
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half those dudes are hotter than ,my GF.
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reading this thread is like waiting for goku to charge up a spirit bomb in dragon ball z
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OH thank god. I thought u had sex with my wife. :cry:
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Reminds me of the time I snapped a rear shock shaft on the Rally Bug checkpointing one of T-Bird or Totem. Thankfully I built the rear end to "capture" the spring if that were to ever happen. Was able to drive the rest of the event and home without too much issue.
i had an old boosted '82 bmw 320i (hense the user name). enroute to 110mi house just outside hope i blew apart an upper rear shock mount (which was just replaced 3 days earlier) and had to drive there, and then all the way back with the rear end loose as hell. fun times
That's the part of the plan that I forgot, I'm going to make some metal caps to put on top of the strut in the engine bay so that if it happens again they'll catch the strut shaft. I don't expect it to happen again once it's no longer on lower springs and probably factory original strut mounts but I'd like to cover all the bases.
__________________ 1991 Toyota Celica GTFour RC // 2007 Toyota Rav4 V6 // 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee
1992 Toyota Celica GT-S ["sold"] \\ 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee CRD [sold] \\ 2000 Jeep Cherokee [sold] \\ 1997 Honda Prelude [sold] \\ 1992 Jeep YJ [sold/crashed] \\ 1987 Mazda RX-7 [sold] \\ 1987 Toyota Celica GT-S [crushed]
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half those dudes are hotter than ,my GF.
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reading this thread is like waiting for goku to charge up a spirit bomb in dragon ball z
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OH thank god. I thought u had sex with my wife. :cry:
Even though it's branded as an (Advanced) Test & Tune day, it looks like it'll basically be an excuse to repeatedly run autox laps like mad since only 40 registrants (max) are allowed. I have always enjoyed autox' intensity more than track days, and something like this is what I would have died for in the past when I didn't have to be adulting.
Also on Sat, July 7 is Speed Fanatics' VIMC track day:
A bit more pricey than autox, to be sure, but VIMC always puts a smile on my face when I drive that track. Unfortunately, my car is waiting for parts, so she isn't track ready for this one.
After BIC BAWS convinced me that stockish car with all season tires would be fun anyways I decided to register for my first AutoX session. Went for the UBCSCC Raydays #2 event couple weeks ago.
To be honest I thought I had the odds against me to start; first timer driving, heavy ass car (~4000lb), all season conti DWS. However, happy to report it was still plenty of fun through the day and a pretty competitive time as a cherry on top.
Good: The S4 launches like a beast - probably made a good few seconds in the beginning of each run.
Bad: Found tons of body roll and understeer everywhere on the conti dws - decided to get some PSS and see if that will help with the understeer at least before getting coils.
Definitely hooked and have already registered for the next UBCSCC auto-x!
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Before spending too much money, I’d also say go get an alignment. Being able to squeeze that extra degree of negative camber will really help save the outside shoulder of tires. Especially on relatively stock cars like ours
- Generally speaking, cars running front struts have limited capability to adjust (front) camber, and most cars are tuned to understeer in stock form.
- Understeer can always be induced when you carry too much speed into a corner, or when you try to go too fast coming out. As the driver, you have to ask yourself how or why the car is plowing (instead of turning).
This was the very last run and coincidentally best run of the day at 50.5 seconds or so but annoyingly got flagged DNF for whatever reason. Would've finished ~30/90 if this run was included but instead my 51.24 was counted instead.
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21' Ducati Streetfighter V4 S
-- 16' Mineral Grey F80 BMW M3 6MT SOLD -11/22
22' Halo Toyota GR86 6MT SOLD -11/22
12' Phantom Black - B8 Audi S4 - SOLD 04/19
07' WDP Acura TL Type-S - A-Spec/ATLP/H&R - SOLD 12/17
18' Matte Silver Ice - Triumph 765 Street Triple RS - SOLD 4/21
This was the very last run and coincidentally best run of the day at 50.5 seconds or so but annoyingly got flagged DNF for whatever reason. Would've finished ~30/90 if this run was included but instead my 51.24 was counted instead.
Looks like you hit one of the cones in the start box?
Your car launched very nicely, saw it a few times from the TV scoreboard!
I missed breaking the 50 mark by overshooting past the crossover
Too bad it isn't about flipping cars to lose money, I'm really good at that.
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As per info request. My goal with buying my car was to try all different things with it, and last saturday I was able to knock rallycross off of my list. Run by northwest rallycross association
So this is the first event they’ve ever held north of Seattle. And since there’s NOTHING like this anywhere I’ve found in BC I jumped on the opportunity. It runs very similar to autocross. Course set up in cones, they use digital timing. They run 2-3 people at a time spaced out around the course. If you’re not in a driving group, you’re working the course. Only issue I had is that they completely split the day between before and after lunch. So after like 11:30, my wife and I had nothing to do except stand in a dusty field until 5pm. We were so over it. (Edit: I drove in the morning so we worked the course in the afternoon, picking up cones etc). Other similar events mix the groups up so you work and drive before and after lunch. Gives you something to look forward to later in the day.
So seems like this group knows each other well, though 35% of the entrants were first timers. That means they’ll probably hold it more north again. Most people have pretty well prepped cars with actual rally tires and such. I didn’t have any time to prep beforehand as I’ve been out of town for two weeks prior and got home and slept for 4 hours before leaving to this event. Definitely needs to be at least oem height, and some sort of underbody protection is a must.
The course was held at Hannegan speedway, which is a motocross track. If you had a car properly set up I imagine it was amazing. But from my research... I wasn’t expecting such rough jumps and banked corners. Usually rallycross is a mix of tarmac, grass (which becomes mud) and loose gravel. This course quickly became heavily rutted, and on the back half which is hardpack dirt road, LOTS of huge, 8” round rocks were unearthed and scattered everywhere. Super dangerous for any car not set up for it.
Will I try and attend another event? Absolutely! Will I try harder to actually prep my car so I have a chance at placing somewhere AND drive home? Absolutely! The focus RS is begging to drive hard in the dirt, but without some serious reliability upgrades it would be short lived.
As per video you can see how slow I had to go, and you can still hear how much my dashcam is going off.
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