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Old 09-12-2014, 12:38 PM   #376
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This presale was bullshit. I couldn't login to apple store or via website on 4 different computers.. but some people were able to login to the website via their android phone flawlessly over and over again

FUCKING BULLSHIT

now i gotta wait for a month before i get it ThE FUCK MAN

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so let me get this straight phone companies require you to have a minimum $80 phone plan which lets you HUP so you can get and iphone6?
yup.

Seems like the norm now across all carriers.
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wow that is fucking bullshit just talked to a mobile shop person in Superstore and found out it is legit...if you use your HUP to purchase a highend phone then your minimum phone plan would have to be $80 so in reality it is better to buy the phone outright and pay month to month to keep your phone plan the same. Fucking phone companies!
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wow that is fucking bullshit just talked to a mobile shop person in Superstore and found out it is legit...if you use your HUP to purchase a highend phone then your minimum phone plan would have to be $80 so in reality it is better to buy the phone outright and pay month to month to keep your phone plan the same. Fucking phone companies!
Yup, way for all carriers to get back at us for the 3 year contract ban on cellphones. 2 year max contract but raise the price each month if you want the newest phone. For what I'm getting on my $55 corporate plan, I'd end up paying $120 per month if I want a subsidized iphone 6. Just looked up Bell 2 year contract prices for the Iphone 6 $125 plus taxes - Unlimited talk and text, 6 GB data I already get that for $55 taxes in. I'm planning to just get an unlocked phone full price and keep my current contract or switch to another carrier.

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This presale was bullshit. I couldn't login to apple store or via website on 4 different computers.. but some people were able to login to the website via their android phone flawlessly over and over again

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Well, the big 4 carriers all need you to be on a Share Everything Plan or at least an $80+ plan to be able to subsidize your iPhone.

For example, if you have an old $55-60 6GB plan, they won't be able to offer you an HUP and will need you to change your plans to a Max Plan(Fido) or a Share Everything Plan(Rogers).

Retention won't be able to do anything this time, maybe OOP but that's a stretch.
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I think for Fido customers, if you have a good plan, it makes sense to use all your fido dollars to buy the device outright.

Granted the 50+tax unlocking fee is highway robbery... but it's better than nothing. So you still end up paying less
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Old 09-12-2014, 02:22 PM   #383
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I think for Fido customers, if you have a good plan, it makes sense to use all your fido dollars to buy the device outright.

Granted the 50+tax unlocking fee is highway robbery... but it's better than nothing. So you still end up paying less
Don't forget that damn $40 reservation fee. I'm going to wait it out with my iPhone 4 until the demand has slowed down a bit.
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that damn 40 reservation fee goes towards the phone anyways...... I don't get some people.....
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reading this thread shakes my head... bunch of brainwashed minions in this world :/ i lost faith in humanity.. especially scalpers.
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Well, the big 4 carriers all need you to be on a Share Everything Plan or at least an $80+ plan to be able to subsidize your iPhone.

For example, if you have an old $55-60 6GB plan, they won't be able to offer you an HUP and will need you to change your plans to a Max Plan(Fido) or a Share Everything Plan(Rogers).

Retention won't be able to do anything this time, maybe OOP but that's a stretch.
I just called into fido and they gave me an HUP for iphone 6. My plan worked out to be $65..

250 min daytime canada wide
unlimited international text/picture/video message
Umlimited calling after 5pm
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Got my HUP fee waived too.

and it's
$265 for iphone6 16gb or
$375 for iphone 6 64gb.

Didn't ask about the iphone6+. Hopefully this helps guys.
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Well, the big 4 carriers all need you to be on a Share Everything Plan or at least an $80+ plan to be able to subsidize your iPhone.

For example, if you have an old $55-60 6GB plan, they won't be able to offer you an HUP and will need you to change your plans to a Max Plan(Fido) or a Share Everything Plan(Rogers).

Retention won't be able to do anything this time, maybe OOP but that's a stretch.
As far as I know, only Rogers is doing this.

Rogers Hardware Upgrades Will Require $80 Plans Starting June 17 [u] | iPhone in Canada Blog - Canada's #1 iPhone Resource

I called into HUP department at the beginning of August and the lady told me I have to go on the Share Everything plan in order to do an upgrade.

She said that all customers with a $60+ plan will have a one time exception (which I already used in 2013), after that, they will have to go on the new plans in order for upgrade. $80+ plan customers' request can be override by a manager.

However, the article states starting June 17th. I did a hardware upgrade at the Rogers corporate store in brentwood on July 27th and they didn't make me change my plan. I didn't keep the phone though because of some price match error.

Not sure about now, but they were training agents to force customers to go on the new plans if they want hardware upgrade, so do your upgrade at the store, because employees there basically don't know shit about contracts, plans, etc. The downside is, the store don't have the power to give you discounts and credits, and whatever they promise you at the store, Rogers doesn't have to honor it. I also heard from a source that they will scrap this soon because it's not productive. Customers are buying device outright, when instead, if they didn't force customers to go on new plan, customers would be signing 2 year contracts which I would think it's a better business practice.
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its not 80$ for all carriers.

If i HUP through telus, as long as i dont cancel, id be saving $245 on the iphone.

Telus lets you keep your existing plan as long as you add features to make it a minimum $70 plan.

I currently have the 60$ 5gb plan and i can add 10$ worth of features and get the iphone as a HUP.

If i was contract free:
Iphone6+ 64gb no term: $970

With term:
Iphone6+ 64gb 2 year plan = $485
Adding 10$ per month x 24 = $240

Total Spent on 2 year contract = $725

As long as i dont cancel my contract, id be exchanging 2 years of my loyalty for a discount of $245 on the phone.

the math is a bit different if you have a cheaper plan and if you already meet the $70 minimum, then you'd be saving $485 on 6+ 64gb.

I've changed my carrier once in the last decade and it was to take over my moms account.
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yep, all carriers you're looking min $80 a month

I know Bell and Virgin has some loyalty plans, can get away with $65 but only 1gb of data. Fido, if you're on a max plan already you might be able to get away with that. Rogers have some loyalty plans too, but they're usually higher plans with a bit more data
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Fuck all these carriers and the greed they have!
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yep, all carriers you're looking min $80 a month

I know Bell and Virgin has some loyalty plans, can get away with $65 but only 1gb of data. Fido, if you're on a max plan already you might be able to get away with that. Rogers have some loyalty plans too, but they're usually higher plans with a bit more data
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I just called into fido and they gave me an HUP for iphone 6. My plan worked out to be $65..

250 min daytime canada wide
unlimited international text/picture/video message
Umlimited calling after 5pm
CID
6GB Data.

Got my HUP fee waived too.

and it's
$265 for iphone6 16gb or
$375 for iphone 6 64gb.

Didn't ask about the iphone6+. Hopefully this helps guys.
How did you achieve this? Magic???
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Thinking the same thing lol
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Well.. I had the 6GB pack with my current contract already.. They said that as long as my plan was $60+ i could HUP with the iphone6/6+. So I asked for the best deal they could give me. Daytime minutes aren't that much of a concern as I'm in school most of that time anyways so this worked out for me.
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Well.. I had the 6GB pack with my current contract already.. They said that as long as my plan was $60+ i could HUP with the iphone6/6+. So I asked for the best deal they could give me. Daytime minutes aren't that much of a concern as I'm in school most of that time anyways so this worked out for me.
Was it through retentions or customer service?
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Was it through retentions or customer service?
Retentions. First lady at customer service probably had a long day with people asking about iphone6 and was in a bitchy mood so I just asked to be transferred to retentions and it was not a problem.
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this is usually the time where consumer side of the telecom companies make or break their churn
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These policies were confirmed by representatives for the two network providers, ending the transition period where some users were able to maintain their legacy plans, often considerably cheaper, when performing a hardware upgrade.
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lol.. dad ordered 128gb ip6+

that's 1.2k down the hole
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Nowadays, buying and receiving the iPhone on launch day is like an expensive way of saying "First". It makes no real difference if you get it on September 19th or mid October.
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