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06-06-2014, 10:41 PM
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But then, the Ouya never had an app store that is anything close to the success of Apple's App Store. Apple already have bluetooth controller working within iOS, its only a matter of time they release their own controller peripheral for the Apple TV. Even if the A8 can't match PS4, it will be able to match the PS3 at least.
We will have to see how the developer supports it.
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06-06-2014, 11:01 PM
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#52 | | Ready to be Man handled by RS!
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp  A7 is powerful but it's sort of wasted on handheld games, since the only ones that make money are shovelware pay to win titles. And if they try to make a 'console' type device (like a new Apple TV with A8) it will have the same problem as the Ouya (but with more power).. so it is sort of in between. Besides, Apple have shown that they have no interest in gaming at all. | Apple developed a sprite framework and gaming controller framework in iOS 7, then expanded the sprite framework while adding two more (a 3D framework and Metal) for iOS 8. That's quite the investment for a company with "no interest in gaming".
The Ouya? That failed for several reasons. The biggest was relying on an OS with poor support for gaming and inferior development tools. Couple that with a console that shipped with a crappy Tegra 3 and anyone could have predicted their failure. And to think people actually gave them millions in funding.
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06-06-2014, 11:11 PM
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#53 | | Hacked RS to become a mod
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No interest in tv console gaming I meant
And yeah the Ouya was a complete disaster top to bottom. I still think making a relatively weak tv gaming console is likely to be a failure as well.
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06-07-2014, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp No interest in tv console gaming I meant
And yeah the Ouya was a complete disaster top to bottom. I still think making a relatively weak tv gaming console is likely to be a failure as well. | Apple has expanded controller support in iOS 8 to allow you to place an iPhone into a controller dock and utilize both the hardware buttons of the controller AND the touchscreen + internal sensors (accelerometer, gyroscope) of the iPhone to work with another device.
Technically, you could place your iPad in a stand and use this new enhanced controller with iPad games, but that's a little silly/overkill. This is probably one of the biggest hints in iOS 8 that Apple has plans for gaming on an Apple TV.
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06-09-2014, 09:52 AM
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Another new feature in iOS 8 was outed today. While your iPhone is scanning for WiFi networks it uses randomly generated MAC addresses instead of your devices real MAC address.
Recently a number of stores/companies have been using MAC addresses to track unique visitors by recording the MAC address of devices that "visit" their store. Since a MAC is unique, they can get useful data (like how often or when you visit). Using a random MAC address effectively makes this method of tracking obsolete.
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06-09-2014, 04:40 PM
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i'm not sold on mobile gaming yet but Metal is a nice move
i wonder if the A8 will be more powerful AND efficient compared to the 64-bit version of Tegra K1
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06-09-2014, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by twitchyzero i'm not sold on mobile gaming yet but Metal is a nice move
i wonder if the A8 will be more powerful AND efficient compared to the 64-bit version of Tegra K1 | Nvidia always promises the moon with Tegra and they never seem to live up to the hype. It's no wonder most people are taking the "wait and see" attitude.
The K1 64bit is supposed to be a custom ARMv8 chip (like the A7), but nothing in the pre-release information shows it to be any more advanced than the A7 (though it looks to be significantly better than the A57 64bit cores from ARM themselves). It appears Nvidia has done a lot more than just "tweak" ARM reference designs (like Apple did with earlier chips and Qualcomm did with their Snapdragons) and the K1 is a truly custom design.
The K1 is dual core and clocked higher so it should outperform the A7, but that's not saying much since the A7 will be a year old by the time K1 hits the mainstream. If Apple again doubles performance with the A8 (like they have been doing every year now for 3 years) then it should easily outperform the K1.
Not that it matters since you can't buy an A7/8 to use in your devices. That leaves Nvidia, Samsung and Qualcomm. Qualcomm already stated they're using A57 cores in their flagship 64bit processor for early 2015, so they're already behind Nvidia and their custom cores. Samsung has a license to use ARM designs or make ARMv8 compatible processors, but Samsung hasn't said if they'll also use A57 cores or come up with their own. So it looks like Nvidia will have the fastest ARM processor you can buy, with Qualcomm and Samsung playing catch up.
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06-09-2014, 11:53 PM
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yes im eager to hear more about the K1 with Dever CPU esp its efficiency
dont mean to derail the thread but since on the topic of 64-bit mobile SoCs, any more concrete info on the new quad-core Atom codenamed Moorefield? I was expecting news from computex. I wonder if we'll see considerable acceptance/adoption since it has LTE
i don't put much weight into benchmarks because many companies are caught cheating in them
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06-10-2014, 07:04 AM
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^ Moorefield is good, but not a huge leap forward. Intel showed benchmarks comparing it to the 801 and 805 just a couple days ago. While it beats the 805, it's really only 10-15% faster. A Moorefield will outperform an A7 (due to its having 4 cores and higher clock), but a single A7 core is still much faster than a single Moorefield core. Moorefield also uses the same PowerVR GPU that Apple uses, however Intel is getting much better performance so they likely added cores here as well.
So Intel is in the same boat as Qualcomm and Samsung - getting more performance by adding cores and increasing clock speeds instead of just designing more efficient cores. The A7 is still the most advanced mobile core out there, and it's last years model.
Cherry Trail is the mobile processor people need to keep an eye on. It's supposed to essentially be an even lower power mobile version of Broadwell, and should be much better than Moorefield.
The fact so many companies were easily caught cheating is why I still rely on benchmarks to compare devices. The real problem isn't the cheating (since it's easy to catch), it's the selective reporting on benchmarks. For example, the Tegra K1 benchmarks are only showing the same few results over and over. There are over a dozen GPU benchmarks out there, and processors often excel in one area but lag in another. The fact Nvidia is cherry picking a few results (the ones where it performs better) is more of a concern to me then actual cheating.
BTW, it seems the only two companies (major companies) that haven't been caught cheating are Google/Motorola and Apple.
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06-10-2014, 01:31 PM
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#60 | | reads most threads with his pants around his ankles, especially in the Forced Induction forum.
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Originally Posted by dangonay ^ Moorefield is good, but not a huge leap forward. Intel showed benchmarks comparing it to the 801 and 805 just a couple days ago. While it beats the 805, it's really only 10-15% faster. A Moorefield will outperform an A7 (due to its having 4 cores and higher clock), but a single A7 core is still much faster than a single Moorefield core. Moorefield also uses the same PowerVR GPU that Apple uses, however Intel is getting much better performance so they likely added cores here as well.
So Intel is in the same boat as Qualcomm and Samsung - getting more performance by adding cores and increasing clock speeds instead of just designing more efficient cores. The A7 is still the most advanced mobile core out there, and it's last years model.
Cherry Trail is the mobile processor people need to keep an eye on. It's supposed to essentially be an even lower power mobile version of Broadwell, and should be much better than Moorefield.
The fact so many companies were easily caught cheating is why I still rely on benchmarks to compare devices. The real problem isn't the cheating (since it's easy to catch), it's the selective reporting on benchmarks. For example, the Tegra K1 benchmarks are only showing the same few results over and over. There are over a dozen GPU benchmarks out there, and processors often excel in one area but lag in another. The fact Nvidia is cherry picking a few results (the ones where it performs better) is more of a concern to me then actual cheating.
BTW, it seems the only two companies (major companies) that haven't been caught cheating are Google/Motorola and Apple. | I don't think google and apple really cares about benchmark. To be honest I don't really care benchmark. What I care is how well the device runs. If it doesn't lag and is fast enough then is good enough for me. At least I think most average user is like that.
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06-10-2014, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp I don't think google and apple really cares about benchmark. To be honest I don't really care benchmark. What I care is how well the device runs. If it doesn't lag and is fast enough then is good enough for me. At least I think most average user is like that. | I think most people probably don't care much either. But apparently several companies seem to think they care, or else why would they bother cheating in the first place?
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06-10-2014, 02:25 PM
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#62 | | reads most threads with his pants around his ankles, especially in the Forced Induction forum.
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Originally Posted by dangonay I think most people probably don't care much either. But apparently several companies seem to think they care, or else why would they bother cheating in the first place? | Marketing to show people "Hey we have the fastest CPU/GPU, but our phones/products!" But I think more people would prefer to have better better life, hopefully the newer CPU will do that.
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06-10-2014, 02:52 PM
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just looked up cherry trail
mobile broadwell...nice
doubt we'll see it in a device for another 12 months though
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06-30-2014, 06:00 AM
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I think the wireless charging of iPhone 6 will be one factor.
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06-30-2014, 11:06 AM
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Unless you can just drop the phone on the pad (anywhere on the pad, not just a specific orientation or the phone has to be in a certain angle) and it will charge properly everytime, and have a reproducable consistant charge time, i doubt that it'll be a feature on the iPhone 6.
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07-08-2014, 12:03 PM
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07-08-2014, 12:40 PM
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#67 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
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07-11-2014, 03:25 PM
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#68 | | reads most threads with his pants around his ankles, especially in the Forced Induction forum.
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Originally Posted by nabs I still don't know why people aren't causing a fuss with apple about their shitty ass quality charging cables. They are just forcing people to buy new ones every 3 months or so.
My old blackberry charger still works in perfect condition. All my USB cables still work in perfect condition. I take amazing care of my cables and stuff just because I hate buying them, but after 3 months, it's like the iPhone charge cables have a timer or something to rip to shreds for no reason.
That.. Along with the rumors about the headphone jack. I don't think i'm going to buy another iPhone, i've bought them because of their simplicity but the constant money im spending buying charging cables and such, and the lack of compatibility with other equipment I use and having to buy dongles and other things, its definitely not worth it in the long run. | my iphone/ipad cable works just fine after years and years. Hand my mom my 4year old iphone 4 with the same OEM cable and still works. My Ipad air cable is almost a year and still works. Maybe is the way how you handle the cable.
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07-11-2014, 05:14 PM
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Same here. I've yet to have any OEM apple cables fail on me.
In fact, back with the old iphone 4, I was still using the same one that came with my original iphone (2g?). Nowadays I use it to charge my first gen ipod mini and my ipad 2.
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07-12-2014, 03:25 AM
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there is a difference between people who unplugs their device by the cable, or unplug their device by the plug, guess which one lasts longer?
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07-15-2014, 03:25 PM
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Apple and IBM are back into bed together, in a huge way. Apple and IBM Announce Parternship for Enterprise
I wonder what Microsoft and Google think of this? Probably not too happy.
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07-15-2014, 10:15 PM
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#72 | | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
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Excited for this. I'm the perfect iPhone user. I don't care about spec I don't care about having a gazillion features. I use my phone is call text work email use wechat Instagram and the very occasionally candy crush type games.
Anything more I use my ipad mini (video watching for extended period of time, playing more complex games) I use my ipad mini.
Anything beyond that is laptop territory, trying to actually work on a touchscreen is just headache inducing I don't see why anyone would attempt it unless it's absolutely urgent. In that case not having the extra screen size isn't a deal breaker really for the emergency time
My gf has a note 2 I fucking hate that thing. Is so big it doesn't even fit in her slim purse sometimes and I end up having to carry it for her a lot of time when we go out. That they is super bulky. Uncomfortable to hold while talk uncomfortable while in pocket uncomfortable when trying to take picture. Overall super uncomfortable, the way she use it is just like me and it's a major over killed. Seriously need to have a purse to go with the phone.
Here's to praying iPhone keep it's slim one hand friendly form factor or else I don't know what to do with the phone getting bigger and bigger everyday | |
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07-16-2014, 02:38 AM
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off topic question.. anyone know good place to replace iPad screen? ( just shattered it at coffee shop.. fml)
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08-05-2014, 04:32 PM
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08-18-2014, 10:51 AM
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#75 | | GO FLAMES GO
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now im torn....this or galaxy Alpha....
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