You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!
The banners on the left side and below do not show for registered users!
If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.
Vancouver Off-Topic / Current EventsThe off-topic forum for Vancouver, funnies, non-auto centered discussions, WORK SAFE. While the rules are more relaxed here, there are still rules. Please refer to sticky thread in this forum.
Jensen was benched as well so I'm wondering if he's going to be traded in the offseason
If Jensen leaves the Nucks after his contract is over, I called it first.
I was at the game tonight and I don't think Lack won the game for the Nucks as much as the Ducks didn't want the win badly enough.
Yes Lack robbed Perry on the PP, but 9 times out of 10 that puck goes in just like Marleau's missed empty net last game.
Hovat's goal is another example of the Ducks just not wanting the game badly enough. Anderson misses on the easy glove of the puck and the Ducks D plays hot potato with it leading to Hansen being able to knock the puck to Horvat. Can't complain about Horvat's shot. That was a shooter's goal, someone with lots of confidence.
Overall, Vey is not as NHL ready in his development when compared to Schroeder. Vey tried skating the puck out of his own zone a couple of times and each time he gave away the puck just before hitting the center red line leading to an odd man rush going back the other way.
McMillan looked lost out there. He needs more time in the farm to learn the Canucks system. Prior to the Ducks scoring their goal, McMillan had a chance to clear the puck from the zone and instead throws it behind the net where no one was. This lead to a turn over and the Nucks never did regain possession.
Dorsett played well as usual. He was a thorn in Perry and Kesler's side whenever he was on.
The twins are slow and weak on the defensive end. Don't kid yourselves. Against a cup contending D pairing, the twins look slow and weak. Their PP suffer for the same reason.
__________________ Originally posted by Iceman_19 you should have tried to touch his penis. that really throws them off. Originally posted by The7even SumAznGuy > Billboa Originally posted by 1990TSI SumAznGuy> Internet > tinytrix
Quote:
Originally Posted by tofu1413
and icing on the cake, lady driving a newer chrysler 200 infront of me... jumped out of her car, dropped her pants, did an immediate squat and did probably the longest public relief ever...... steam and all.
I dont agree on your first part but do agree on your second part...the ducks literally were all over the canucks and the only one who was keeping us in it was lack. The shots were a 2-1 margin in favour of the ducks. The outplayed the canucks the whole game and once they tied it up canucks actually started to play. This game could have been a blow out if lack didn't stand on his head...
OMG! The Canucks slogan for the commercials is spot on these days for the team's play: It's a new game!
The team is playing for heart that's for sure. Despite being outshot 30-16, they find ways to win.
We are 9-0-1 when Bo Ho scores.
its 10-0-1 now...11 goals lol...first team to give the Ducks a regulation loss in 1 goal games this season
I wouldn't go as far as saying the team is playing with heart, there was a lot of luck involved...it could easily have been 5-1 Ducks if Eddie didn't stand on his head and got some help from the post.
For a good 40 minutes the Canucks could hardly get past the red line, let alone come up with any good offensive pressure. At some point it was like they didn't want the game and they were trying hard to give it to the Ducks.
I hate to say it but if you want a good example of heart and finding ridiculous ways to win/get points, you'd have to look no further than the Flames. How they can keep rolling in a season where they were expected to be at the cellar is pretty damn amazing especially with the fact that they now lost their captain and best player. The Canucks on the other hand have had more than a handful of games were they looked old, tired and generally uninterested in winning.
If Canucks were to make the playoffs, i hope they play against the Flames. I can't rmbr who said it in the papers but the Canucks/Flames represent each other's best chances at getting past the first. It'd be a pretty epic series that'll for sure go 7 games.
i know hindsight is 20/20 and it might be a bit early but imo Jensen is a bust. He's got the frame but he's looked lazy and lost in the NA game.
Hindsight is 20/20, MG era scouts were shit but CAMAN...what kind of stupid were the scouts to pick Jensen over Brandon Saad.
44GP 34G 42A 76PTS in Saad's final year of Junior vs Jensen's
57GP 25G 33A 58PTS
Other notable names that were missed:
David Musil (D)
Tomas Jurco (RW)
Boone Jenner (C)
John Gibson (G) - ok, yeah we still had Schneids and Luu so this never would've happened
Victor Rask (C)
Nikita Kucherov (RW) - yeah probably wouldn't have happened cus we never draft Russians and the Bolts got lucky with this pick.
I rmbr hoping before the draft that the Canucks would draft either Saad or Jenner. I never understood the hype around Jensen nor the idiots saying Canucks "stole" him at 29th. Sure, at this point of the draft its crapshoot but there were clearly better prospects available. God, our scouts were fucking terrible.
I never understood the hype around Jensen, either. I remember Canuck fans calling him a steal and labelling him as the next Naslund. Lmao I was like lmao
I rmbr hoping before the draft that the Canucks would draft either Saad or Jenner. I never understood the hype around Jensen nor the idiots saying Canucks "stole" him at 29th. Sure, at this point of the draft its crapshoot but there were clearly better prospects available. God, our scouts were fucking terrible.
Not voting for Jensen, but I think his concussion in 2012 has affected his play.
i know hindsight is 20/20 and it might be a bit early but imo Jensen is a bust. He's got the frame but he's looked lazy and lost in the NA game.
Hindsight is 20/20, MG era scouts were shit but CAMAN...what kind of stupid were the scouts to pick Jensen over Brandon Saad.
44GP 34G 42A 76PTS in Saad's final year of Junior vs Jensen's
57GP 25G 33A 58PTS
Other notable names that were missed:
David Musil (D)
Tomas Jurco (RW)
Boone Jenner (C)
John Gibson (G) - ok, yeah we still had Schneids and Luu so this never would've happened
Victor Rask (C)
Nikita Kucherov (RW) - yeah probably wouldn't have happened cus we never draft Russians and the Bolts got lucky with this pick.
I rmbr hoping before the draft that the Canucks would draft either Saad or Jenner. I never understood the hype around Jensen nor the idiots saying Canucks "stole" him at 29th. Sure, at this point of the draft its crapshoot but there were clearly better prospects available. God, our scouts were fucking terrible.
Canucks weren't the only ones who over looked Saad. 28 other teams did as well. Hell even Chicago picked two players late in the first round over him who have 2 NHL games combined. There's a lot we don't know when it comes to drafting.
True but they eventually redeemed themselves with the Saad pick. Drafting is a crapshoot.
But damn, as a Canucks fan, hindsight is a bitch. With Benning, the one thing i'm looking forward to is better drafting and actual scouting. For years we've been tormented with shitty picks.
If you can tear yourself away from this frigid, interminable winter, come back with me to the steamy summer of 2005.
For the last two weeks of July, Montreal was playing host to the World Aquatics Championships on Île Notre Dame. I was there every day, covering swimming and diving and marvelling at the strength, toughness and endurance of the athletes playing water polo.
Hockey was the last thing on my mind. As much as possible, I try not to think about January in July. But there was some hockey business in progress. The Gary Bettman lockout that had killed the 2004-05 season had ended. Given that the 2004 playoffs were more than a year in the rear-view mirror, the NHL held a lottery to determine the order of the entire draft, rather than the top picks.
The lottery was held on July 22, midway through the aquatics championships. Bitterness toward the NHL over the lockout was at its high point. Fans were universally swearing they would never come back. Reporters took that stance with a grain of salt, but we were also feeling pretty disgusted with the league.
I happened to be in the main media workroom when the lottery drawing took place. When 200 reporters stampeded the television screens to watch the lottery, I knew the NHL would come stampeding back.
In theory, the Canadiens had little chance of finishing near the top in that lottery. They were coming off a decent season and were accorded one ball in the lottery, while the Buffalo Sabres, Columbus Blue Jackets, New York Rangers and Pittsburgh Penguins had three each and 10 clubs had two each.
But a lottery is a lottery. Everyone has a chance to win, as 6/49 buyers kid themselves into believing every time they buy a ticket. As team after team was selected and the Canadiens were still in it, more and more people gathered around the TVs. For a time, it appeared the Canadiens might actually land the top spot and the automatic selection: Sidney Crosby.
There were universal groans when the Canadiens ended up in the fifth spot. Very good, not great. Pittsburgh won the lottery and Crosby, followed by Anaheim, Carolina, Minnesota and then the Canadiens. It would still be the Habs’ highest pick since they grabbed Petr Svoboda in the same slot in 1984 (and Shayne Corson, Stéphane Richer and some guy named Patrick Roy further down). Now it was up to Bob Gainey and Trevor Timmins not to blow it.
There was quite a bit of sentiment in favour of Gilbert Brulé, a smallish, high-scoring centreman who, despite the name, was born and grew up out west. I favoured Anze Kopitar, in part because he seemed like an intriguing prospect, more because I’m married to a Slovenian.
When the draft unfolded three days later, the first few picks went pretty much according to the Central Scouting manual. Crosby to Pittsburgh was a lock. That was followed by Bobby Ryan to Anaheim, American defenceman Jack Johnson to Carolina and Benoît Pouliot (!) to Minnesota.
That brought the Canadiens up. Brulé was the top-ranked North American skater still on the board, Kopitar the leading European. Tuukka Rask headed the list of European goaltenders, followed by Ondrej Pavelec.
Gainey’s philosophy was to build from the goaltender out. He had José Theodore in the fold, but he went for another goaltender. When the Canadiens selected Carey Price, there were some cheers and some groans in the media room at the Aquatics Centre, mostly from those who are constantly hoping for a return to the days of the Flying Frenchmen, even if Brulé was born in Edmonton.
Brulé went next, to the Blue Jackets. (He would bounce around from pillar to post in a thoroughly undistinguished career before ending up in the KHL.) Jack Skille, Devin Setoguchi, Brian Lee and the late Luc Bourdon were taken next before the Los Angeles Kings swooped in to grab Kopitar. The Rangers chose Marc Staal and the other noteworthy picks in the first round were Rask taken in the 21st slot by the Maple Leafs (mention that if you want to annoy your Leaf-fan friends) and T.J. Oshie, who went 24th to St. Louis.
The later rounds were good to Pittsburgh, which grabbed Kris Letang with the 62nd pick, and the Kings, who set themselves on the road to post-season dominance by taking goaltender Jonathan Quick 72nd overall.
It would not be obvious for years, but the other team that made its future in that draft was the Canadiens — and it wasn’t because they drafted head-case Sergei Kostitsyn, journeyman Matt D’Agostini and the ponderous Guillaume Latendresse, who learned how to turn on ice from watching iron-ore freighters on the St. Lawrence.
But the Canadiens got Price and a future, which begs the question: If the 2005 draft were held again today, based on the current performance of those players rather than their entire careers, who would you take?
People always respond by naming Crosby because of his Stanley Cup ring and the Olympics. But the question is now, not then, and the answer, indisputably, is Price.
I’ve been criticized for years for not buying into Price earlier and I’ve apologized for underestimating the young man. But I write what I see and until the past two or three seasons, based upon what I saw, Price hadn’t quite lived up to his potential. There were times when he was close and times when he was inconsistent at best. I don’t think it can be argued that Price matured somewhat late, at least in comparison with Ken Dryden and Patrick Roy.
But the wait was worth it. It took two marriages to settle him down: one to his wife, the other to goaltending coach Stéphane Waite, the unsung MVP of the Canadiens. The numbers this season tell part of the story but not all of it: A 37-13-3 record, a .936 save percentage, a gaudy 1.89 goals-against average and, after he stoned Arizona on Saturday night, seven shutouts.
That doesn’t cover the dual roles Price also plays as an on-ice quarterback, taking Martin Brodeur’s puck-handling to a new level, and as the de facto team captain. The “C” will surely go to Max Pacioretty or P.K. Subban soon, but the real captain will be in the crease as long as Price plays.
With 16 regular-season games to play, Price should be a lock for the Vézina Trophy. His competition there will come from Pekka Rinne, but with the Predators in free fall (and how much effect does Mike Ribeiro’s off-ice problems have on Nashville?) Price would appear to have the edge.
Same goes for the Hart Trophy. Sports Illustrated’s Michael Farber says Price should have competition from John Tavares as well. I would lean to Alex Ovechkin, whose late-season surge, wide lead in the goal-scoring race and vastly improved two-way play have to make him a candidate.
Crosby? These days, Crosby is an ordinary superstar. Against Colorado the other night, he had no points, no hits and no shots on goal in about 19 minutes of ice time. He’s still up there in the scoring race and he may yet surge to the top and win it, but teammate Evgeni Malkin is having a better season. Crosby is now more or less on a par with players like Malkin, Tavares, Nicklas Backstrom, Jakub Voracek, Patrick Kane and Tyler Seguin — and it would have been the direst heresy to say that even a season ago.
So if I were to redo the top rungs of the 2005 draft, based on what the various players are contributing to their teams now, it would go like this:
1. Carey Price — Canadiens
2. Sidney Crosby — Pittsburgh Penguins
3. Jonathan Quick — Los Angeles Kings
4. Anze Kopitar — Los Angeles Kings
5. Kris Letang — Pittsburgh Penguins.
In truth, it’s a no-brainer to put Price at the top of the list. Given that he could conceivably dominate the league for another decade, it’s possible that at the end of his career he will still rank above Crosby.
With his Olympic gold medal and all the other honours Price has won added to the Vézina and Hart Trophies he will surely take this season, there’s only one remaining line for the Canadiens great goaltender to fill in on his resumé:
Stanley Cup Champion.
Really? Sure Price is great now and he'll be great for some time but the arrogance in this article is overwhelming. I'm not a big Sid fan but no matter how you shake the 2005 draft Crosby will always be number 1. Even with today's knowledge only Mike Milbury would draft Price ahead of Crosby in 2005.
If Jensen leaves the Nucks after his contract is over, I called it first.
I was at the game tonight and I don't think Lack won the game for the Nucks as much as the Ducks didn't want the win badly enough.
Yes Lack robbed Perry on the PP, but 9 times out of 10 that puck goes in just like Marleau's missed empty net last game.
Hovat's goal is another example of the Ducks just not wanting the game badly enough. Anderson misses on the easy glove of the puck and the Ducks D plays hot potato with it leading to Hansen being able to knock the puck to Horvat. Can't complain about Horvat's shot. That was a shooter's goal, someone with lots of confidence.
Overall, Vey is not as NHL ready in his development when compared to Schroeder. Vey tried skating the puck out of his own zone a couple of times and each time he gave away the puck just before hitting the center red line leading to an odd man rush going back the other way.
McMillan looked lost out there. He needs more time in the farm to learn the Canucks system. Prior to the Ducks scoring their goal, McMillan had a chance to clear the puck from the zone and instead throws it behind the net where no one was. This lead to a turn over and the Nucks never did regain possession.
Dorsett played well as usual. He was a thorn in Perry and Kesler's side whenever he was on.
The twins are slow and weak on the defensive end. Don't kid yourselves. Against a cup contending D pairing, the twins look slow and weak. Their PP suffer for the same reason.
I was arguing with my brother about this the whole commercial break. I don't know how he didn't see that as a huge mistake.
I was arguing with my brother about this the whole commercial break. I don't know how he didn't see that as a huge mistake.
I saw the same thing. He basically Did a move Kassian would do to get scratched from a game. I'm really hoping Kenis gets slotted back in for McMillan. 10pts In 16 games is awesome for a 4th liner.
You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!
The banners on the left side and below do not show for registered users!
