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I was told that Ukrainian air control was in contact with flight MH17 just before & during the incident but they've yet to release the tape/transcript? is that bs or? |
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We can't start going to war over every random act, where there is no clear evidence anyone did anything. If Russia straight up said, "Yep, it was us. Too bad, so sad" and continues to threaten and hurt a speific country, then I can see how a War would be plausible. But, you can't expect Nations to go to War over an incident where no side really knows much. |
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here's a deal for you, i won't post anything to this thread without proof, and you do the same. all you do is provide conspiracy theories which are mostly baseless. i try to bring in a logical argument. in the end of the day, proof is very hard to find as it often can be questioned. the court of law is based on the agreement of a group of peers - I believe we will end up with certain 'proof' with which everyone will end up trying to poke holes in, and a consensus of western powers will agree russia did it, and that is what we will have to accept. we, the general public, do not have the information those involved do, and it is made harder by the Russian separatist intervention that is currently occurring... or is that all a zionist conspiracy? i'd love to know, do you function normally in society? do you have a job? do you live in a bunker with a collection of tin foil hats? |
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Don't bother having a rational argument with him. It's like trying to ask a priest to provide scientific proof of god. The two sides just can't reconcile. It's literally impossible because they literally can't be rational. They have to be, it's the only way. |
SkinnyPupp you also spread mainstream media propaganda and will not answer to the facts I provide. Show me you can rub two brain cells together and explain the question I ask below. @4444 Listen I provided proof that the Nazi's and the Zionist have collaborated together on the behalf of the ZioAmerican empire, having killed many along the way by sniping and shelling innocent people in Ukraine. This was a coup. Your rebuttal is to totally ignore this and say "consensus of western powers" is blah blah. Try again... tell me why the Zionist and Nazi's are working together. edit - Looking back at the Boston bombings, people only care about current events when its hot to talk about but are not really interested many months down the line because after I provided new evidence of that false flag, no one cared. |
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proof... your mind really is wired wrong i am REALLY intrigued as to whether you have a normal real life or if you're a uni bomber in waiting, please tell us! |
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How is it any different then the conspiracy propaganda you spread? It's funny because you constantly call people sheep yet the only difference between yourself and everyone who disagrees with you is you get your truth from a different source. You take everything your conspiracy cohorts say as gospel no matter how convoluted or how much of a reach the story is and claim everyone else is being spoon fed when the reality is you're no different except for your source. Do I think that everything mainstream media reports is true? Hell no. For you every single event that happens in the world is a cover up, a fallacy and a lie. If you don't see a problem with that you my friend are the sheep. Is there some truth to some of the stuff you post? There probably is but it gets buried in the bullshit. You cry wolf so much that when you actually post anything with some real merit how can anyone believe it? |
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@quasi I bring facts, people like you who talk this jazz dont. Can you explain or refute the information i posted? On forums I deal with people like you all the time. When asked to challenge me people put their tail between their legs and leave... will you? |
If you posted something I had an interest in I'd gladly argue my point of view. You like to throw around words like facts but when I think of facts I have to with the dictionary explanation, "something that actually exists; reality; truth". Generally speaking your not bringing facts your bringing 3rd party hear say and drawings lines between X and Y and stating it to be the truth. In fact most of your arguments are based on correlation not causation so they are actually not facts but opinions. Just because you call it a fact doesn't make it so, I know this because I keep telling my wife I have a 12" penis but she keeps saying I wish..........Fuck her it's a fact. :) |
Yeah just as expected. Just bump this thread if or when you're interested. Good bye |
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i'm not at all saying it's not a approved/valid path, just wondering if it's the normal one for that flight? |
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i really want to know what CiC is like in real life, i think he'd be fascinating, in an animal experiment kind of way |
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murd0c, it's "facts" not facts :) |
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He's speaking of some neo-nazi right wing groups within the Ukrainian uprising working alongside some jewish ukrainian groups (i don't think i would call them zionists though CiC). They had a common goal which was to oust Yanukovych and now to push out pro-russian separatists. "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" escapes him That's one of the things that irks me a bit, when CiC presents lesser known facts in CiCs way, it makes everything look completely nutballs and for those wondering why its relevant that there are/were neo-nazi groups fighting in ukraine; one of Russias justifications for intruding on the Ukraine issue is that there were neo-nazi groups working in Ukraine that were targeting Russian supporters and murdering them. A fact that was denied by the US & Ukraine even though it was covered/showcased by the BBC |
I some what disagree... Spoiler! |
I love that CiC uses the word "facts" to describe hearsay from sites that no one but him thinks is legit. |
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Please let me understand this whole Zionist crazy you keep on referring to, pretty please! |
I wonder if CiC actually has normal conversations with people in real life, or is way too paranoid to talk to anyone in public unless it's about some conspiracy. Seriously Charles start a YouTube channel and I will watch |
Or you can use your brain to figure this stuff out yourself, you dont even have to be smart. |
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