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68style 09-06-2014 07:52 PM

I thought Alfa Romeo had dropped out of this project and it was going to be released as a Fiat now?

c4@urdoor 09-06-2014 08:06 PM

I feel bad for saying this, but the car looks like it has down syndrome. :/

Nabatron 09-11-2014 07:34 PM

2016 Mazda MX-5 Miata Specs Reportedly Leaked » AutoGuide.com News

heres a little tie bit for future miata buyers! If this shit is true mazda better not fuck up the specs on the rx7/rx9!!!!

flagella 09-11-2014 09:27 PM

What the flying fuck? Better be different trims.

Qmx323 09-11-2014 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roastpuff (Post 8524669)



looks good otherwise

Klondike 09-11-2014 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c4@urdoor (Post 8525962)
I feel bad for saying this, but the car looks like it has down syndrome. :/

That Ko-derp design language.

rcoccultwar 09-11-2014 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nabatron (Post 8527966)
2016 Mazda MX-5 Miata Specs Reportedly Leaked » AutoGuide.com News

heres a little tie bit for future miata buyers! If this shit is true mazda better not fuck up the specs on the rx7/rx9!!!!

50mpg? Should set the corporate CAFE scene well for the rx7/rx9. $50,000+ next gen Mazda/Toyota sports car looks 350hp+!

sonick 09-12-2014 07:58 AM

I remember reading there might be two engines available for this Miata, the more powerful one being FI and probably heavier.

The lower-powered engine is probably just so they can advertise the weight loss figure in the marketing.

Edit: for 320icar:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...77ef9873043310

Timpo 09-12-2014 11:18 AM

^ heavier? they're saying this Miata is 220 lbs lighter than previous gen.

hud 91gt 09-12-2014 11:44 AM

I can't believe it's lighter! That's rad. Although i'd like to see it with 150 RWP, it's still going to be a blast to drive no doubt. I'm glad they aren't trying to pack major HP into this package. The Miata has been successful as it is due to it being a fun, capable handling machine. Not a 1/4 mile monster.

supafamous 09-12-2014 12:19 PM

The North American will almost certainly have the 2.0L motor with between 160-180hp - Mazda has already said that North Americans want more power.

As for the 1.5L I don't think it'd be that slow for the kind of car it is. 2200lbs and 128hp with a 6 speed probably means a 0-60 of 7-7.5secs. Not fast but suitable for this kind of car.

sonick 09-12-2014 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timpo (Post 8528338)
^ heavier? they're saying this Miata is 220 lbs lighter than previous gen.

Yes but maybe the 2200lb kerb weight is with the 1.5l engine. With the larger engine it could be heavier than that 2200lb , but they have offer the option of a 1.5l just to hit that low weight figure even though they know it probably will be a low-volume seller.

Kinda like how advertising for condo developments will say 'Units starting from $199,999!' but really there is only one shitty studio in the whole development that is that price.

I am totally speculating from a marketing standpoint, the 2.0 could realistically be the same or close in weight as the 1.5l.

Timpo 09-14-2014 03:27 PM


rJZx 09-14-2014 03:35 PM

^The front reminds me of this

http://lovatron.com/wp-content/uploa...-face-meme.jpg

Timpo 09-16-2014 08:05 PM

how much power?

0-60mph?

UFO 09-17-2014 07:39 AM

I like that visually anyways it looks like a smaller car than prev gen. Also like the sloping hoodline, should be awesome for visibility and seeing the road.

Verdasco 09-19-2014 03:02 PM

the rear needs a change and the front needs to be more aggresive. what a dud!

sonick 01-30-2015 08:25 AM

First drive: 2015 Mazda MX-5 1.5 review | Autocar


:clap:

Timpo 01-30-2015 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonick (Post 8528380)
Yes but maybe the 2200lb kerb weight is with the 1.5l engine. With the larger engine it could be heavier than that 2200lb , but they have offer the option of a 1.5l just to hit that low weight figure even though they know it probably will be a low-volume seller.

Kinda like how advertising for condo developments will say 'Units starting from $199,999!' but really there is only one shitty studio in the whole development that is that price.

I am totally speculating from a marketing standpoint, the 2.0 could realistically be the same or close in weight as the 1.5l.

2016 Mazda MX-5 Miata will rock 2.0L SkyActiv engine in US, 1.5L elsewhere

I don't think they would even bother offering 1.5L version in the USA just for a sake of hitting 2,200 lb claim.
Car enthusiasts are not that dumb and they will catch on that pretty quickly.

Also did they completely re-design the 2.0L engine? The 2.0L engine might be bored-up 1.5L engine or the 1.5L engine might be the sleeved down 2.0L engine.

I doubt Mazda will spend extra budget to completely re-design a new engine.

Look at GM, LS1, LS2, LS3, LS7...although they are different in displacement/power/torque, their components are very similar and I heard that they don't weigh that much different either.

I heard the same thing for Honda's K20, K24 etc...

sonick 01-30-2015 09:55 AM

It's not just me that thinks that...

Quote:

Weight is a claimed 2200 pounds for the 1.5-liter car, but there’s no news on the mass front for the American-spec version. [...] We’re going to predict that our U.S. version will weigh in at less than 2400 pounds.
2016 Mazda MX-5 Miata First Drive ? Review ? Car and Driver

It is a different engine altogether, "similar to the one in the CX-5."

mb_ 01-30-2015 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timpo (Post 8588952)
2016 Mazda MX-5 Miata will rock 2.0L SkyActiv engine in US, 1.5L elsewhere

I don't think they would even bother offering 1.5L version in the USA just for a sake of hitting 2,200 lb claim.
Car enthusiasts are not that dumb and they will catch on that pretty quickly.

Also did they completely re-design the 2.0L engine? The 2.0L engine might be bored-up 1.5L engine or the 1.5L engine might be the sleeved down 2.0L engine.

I doubt Mazda will spend extra budget to completely re-design a new engine.

Look at GM, LS1, LS2, LS3, LS7...although they are different in displacement/power/torque, their components are very similar and I heard that they don't weigh that much different either.

I heard the same thing for Honda's K20, K24 etc...



^It's a different engine. The 2.0L is already used in CX-5, Mazda3 and Mazda 6

Timpo 01-30-2015 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonick (Post 8588953)
It's not just me that thinks that...



2016 Mazda MX-5 Miata First Drive ? Review ? Car and Driver

It is a different engine altogether, "similar to the one in the CX-5."

oh fuck, back in 1990s Nissan decided to ditch lighter and more powerful SR20DET and decided to put KA24DE.

I hope they're not doing the same thing.
At least this time, it'll be aluminum block..right?

Timpo 01-30-2015 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mb_ (Post 8588954)
^It's a different engine. The 2.0L is already used in CX-5, Mazda3 and Mazda 6

So they completely re-designed 1.5L for global market except for North America?
What a waste of money. Could've lowered the development cost for sticking to 2.0L only.

Timpo 01-30-2015 10:08 AM

It says the 2.0L MX-5 will do 0-60mph in 6.5 sec (est.) and 1/4 mile in 15.0 sec (est.)

Finally catching up to the 1st gen Porsche Boxster

1997 Porsche Boxster
2.5L Flat-6, 201hp, 188lb-ft
0-60mph: 6.1 sec
1/4 mile: 14.7 sec
http://www.mynrma.com.au/media/porsche_boxster_1997.jpg

blackGS? 01-30-2015 08:33 PM

Might be apples and oranges
But say someone was nearing a
midlife crisis. 2016 MX-5 or
a used S2000?


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