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#302 | | I told him no, what y'all do?
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10-14-2014, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Marco911 Don't worry, a Cayman won't get you into the club. It's 911 or bust.  | I thought the cayman with its mid engine was the superior chassis for the track compared to the 911?
The cayman is also lighter, smaller, shorter and has better weight distribution than its big brother the 911.
If porsche stuck the 3.8L from the GT3 into the cayman would it not manhandle its own 911 around a track?
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10-14-2014, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Z3guy The 991 is a different car now due to the extra 4 inches of wheelbase. However, for the regular novice driver who goes to the track occassionally, most can extract more performance from the M3 due to how predictable the car reacts. Sure the pro driver can get more performance from a 997, no argument here, but for most drivers, you won't be able to extract max performance from a 997.
Marco, you are great at pulling up stats, but from your comments, you have little real world track driving experiences, hence you speak out of your ass. | For the novice driver, one can extract more performance out of a Ford Fiesta then an M3. You see, I can "talk out of my ass" too if I don't have to back any of my statements up.
A pro driver can extract more performance out of *any* car vs. a novice driver.
I totally disagree that a novice driver can extract more performance out of an (E90?) M3 than a 997. 997s are very easy to drive and controllable at its limits, which will make a novice feel like a PRO. It has a lower center of gravity, a stiffer platform and you can carve it around a track like a scalpel. The M3's electronic nannies reign in the fun much, much sooner, while PSM lets you slide the car by up to 6 degrees before it will intervene (and hold your slide!)
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10-14-2014, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Z3guy really now? why do you think Porsche never puts in a 3.8L in the Cayman? because it would destroy a 911. Why don't you ask Hans Stuck which car is superior on the track?
why do you think Porsche moved the engine forward and extended the wheelbase 4 inches?????? | The car that is superior on the track gets the better time. Other than autocrosses/slaloms, the 911 will beat the Cayman. 
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10-14-2014, 08:44 PM
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10-15-2014, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Marco911 For the novice driver, one can extract more performance out of a Ford Fiesta then an M3. You see, I can "talk out of my ass" too if I don't have to back any of my statements up.
A pro driver can extract more performance out of *any* car vs. a novice driver.
I totally disagree that a novice driver can extract more performance out of an (E90?) M3 than a 997. 997s are very easy to drive and controllable at its limits, which will make a novice feel like a PRO. It has a lower center of gravity, a stiffer platform and you can carve it around a track like a scalpel. The M3's electronic nannies reign in the fun much, much sooner, while PSM lets you slide the car by up to 6 degrees before it will intervene (and hold your slide!) | Thank you Captain Obvious. Again, you are speaking out of your ass, have you even driven a F80 M3? Thanks for posting more stats you pulled off some car website.
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Originally Posted by Marco911 The car that is superior on the track gets the better time. Other than autocrosses/slaloms, the 911 will beat the Cayman. | Why don't you respond to my question about why Porsche doesn't put the big engine in the Cayman? Also, since you are so good as pulling stats, why don't you google search Hans Stuck Cayman Vs 991?
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10-15-2014, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by m_coupe I thought the cayman with its mid engine was the superior chassis for the track compared to the 911?
The cayman is also lighter, smaller, shorter and has better weight distribution than its big brother the 911.
If porsche stuck the 3.8L from the GT3 into the cayman would it not manhandle its own 911 around a track? | The answer is yes. The reason Porsche (or VW now haha!) doesn't put the big Carrera engine in the 991 is because VW makes allot more money on the 991 Vs Cayman.
Porsche or it's parent VW cares more about making money than providing the best driving experiences to their loyal fans.....
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10-15-2014, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by multicartual Marco's use of emoticons is impeccable |
I can't hear what you're saying with Marcos dick all up in your mouth
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10-15-2014, 09:05 AM
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#311 | | they call me the snowman
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Originally Posted by m_coupe If porsche stuck the 3.8L from the GT3 into the cayman would it not manhandle its own 911 around a track? | Didn't someone do this at one time?
They dropped the big boy Porsche motor into the Cayman (or boxster, can't remember) and it killed the 911 on the track.
It may have just happened in my mind, but I still believe that the MR platform is better than the RR platform. Haven't 911's killed enough of our celebrities? When will we learn?  Quote:
Originally Posted by Z3guy because VW makes allot more money on the 991 Vs Cayman. | ALLOT. ALLOT. ALLOT. ALLOT. Quote:
Originally Posted by Happy I can't hear what you're saying with Marcos dick all up in your mouth | You should check out multicartual's website, marcosdickinmymouth.com
It's mostly pictures of his 318Mustang project though.  | |
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you might have just given multi an idea for his website 
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10-15-2014, 09:48 AM
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i went to marcosdickinmymouth.com and did not find pics of 318Mustang.
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10-15-2014, 11:19 AM
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Two snaps, and a gif for my homie slowguy. 
Hey, lookie here?
A jalopnik article from May that says Porsche will be making the Cayman GT4, aka the 911 beater. Porsche Cayman GT4 Will Be The Mid-Engined 911-Ruiner You Want And Need  | |
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10-15-2014, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Z3guy The answer is yes. The reason Porsche (or VW now haha!) doesn't put the big Carrera engine in the 991 is because VW makes allot more money on the 991 Vs Cayman.
Porsche or it's parent VW cares more about making money than providing the best driving experiences to their loyal fans..... | +1. Porsche is a marketing genius. With the same chassis, they've made 20 different models. Even the Cayman is based on the last gen 911. I'm sure it doesn't cost Porsche double a base 911 for the price of GT3.
Anyways, back on topic, this isn't a M3 vs 911 debate; I agree with Jason's original post that driving a slow car fast is at least equally entertaining. I've driven a E92 M3 and there was just nowhere to open it up and rip...at least in the lower mainland. My old MR2, you could floor and not get into too much trouble.
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10-15-2014, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by originalhypa Didn't someone do this at one time?
They dropped the big boy Porsche motor into the Cayman (or boxster, can't remember) and it killed the 911 on the track. | Not a GT3 but this guy put in an LS3 into his 996. My LS3 Conversion Videos - Rennlist Discussion Forums
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10-15-2014, 05:38 PM
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#317 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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Originally Posted by Marco911 I disagree. BMW has lost a lot of my respect over the last 20 years. There is so much cost-cutting that the cars have lost a lot of their character. BMWs are a lot more about marketing hype than substance today. 3-Series, Audi A4, C-class they all drive the same, with dead steering and over excited electronic nannies that intervene early to reign in the fun. | As opposed to modern Porsches which are frequently being sold by enthusiasts so they can be replaced by older, rawer cars? Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco911 With regards to performance numbers and times:
The '14 BMW M4 ring time is: 7:52s
The 991 Carrera S time is: 7:37.90s and it has 30 hp less than the M4.
That's a significantly better time, and you better bet you can feel that difference when you drive the cars. | That's only 3.2% slower in the hands of a professional driver on a race track, that's not significant at all. And in the hands of a non-professional (ie the people who actually buy them) the ability to feel the difference would be negligible at best. Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco911 Fact of the matter is that you can't take a mainstream car like the 3-Series and expect it to perform or feel like a car that has been engineered from the ground-up as a sports car. | The car that's had the engine hanging out the ass for who knows how long? Quote:
Originally Posted by Z3guy The answer is yes. The reason Porsche (or VW now haha!) doesn't put the big Carrera engine in the 991 is because VW makes allot more money on the 991 Vs Cayman.
Porsche or it's parent VW cares more about making money than providing the best driving experiences to their loyal fans..... | Probably because the majority of the people that can afford these high end cars aren't enthusiasts, they just buy them as a status symbol. Quote:
Originally Posted by heleu +1. Porsche is a marketing genius. With the same chassis, they've made 20 different models. Even the Cayman is based on the last gen 911. I'm sure it doesn't cost Porsche double a base 911 for the price of GT3. | Porsche is the iphone of the car world. Take the exact same thing you had before, tweak it just a tad, and sell it to fans for exorbitant prices.
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Originally Posted by LemonT |
I like the video but cars have now turned into which pretentious douchebag can spend the most money on a car they've never changed the oil on or even know anything really about
This is just dick-swinging, plain and simple. Both are incredible cars that 99.9% of all consumers will never ever even get close to 9/10ths of the performance available
Fuck cars are just getting stupid. How many cars now have piped-in engine sounds?
I'm sure Marco is probably right, the 911 is probably one of the most refined pure sports car there is. At this point though it doesn't fucking matter because our roads, our laws, and our ability to get a chance to really enjoy a car that would put most people in the poor house if they wrote it off on a track day is just retarded.
Maybe I'm just a bitter Vancouverite that heard about some dude dying in Oppenheimer park while noticing how many countless dozens and dozens of houses are empty in my girlfriend's hood; Dunbar. Countless fucking houses empty! If you don't believe me go and check it out yourself. I bet halloween is going to be totally quiet when I spend the night there because there are SO many empty homes.
At the same time, if you got money spend it homey because he who dies with the most toys, wins!
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Almost thought about getting a FRS... But after reading through this thread. Decided nope. Way too much power and torque.
I like to feel like I'm pushing my car to the edge through the turns, where I need to shift my ass on my seat before hitting a corner in anticipation to counter the upcoming g-force instead of relying on bolstered seats.
I love down shifting on the highways to feel that sudden power to pass a Corolla and such. Then they catch up but can't pass cause I'm blocking them (unless they change lanes). My car is so quiet even at red line. Like anti-police even when I'm driving it hard. This thread hit the nail on the head.
Better to have a slow car where you can drive it fast and not attract attention.  
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Didn't Marco911 and Si Ed have a one night stand a long time ago? It was mentioned in some thread back then.
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Originally Posted by AzNightmare Almost thought about getting a FRS... But after reading through this thread. Decided nope. Way too much power and torque. |
Not sure if srs 
FRS and power and torque cannot be used in the same sentence.
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Originally Posted by Z3guy Thank you Captain Obvious. Again, you are speaking out of your ass, have you even driven a F80 M3? Thanks for posting more stats you pulled off some car website. | You're the one speaking out of your ass! Did you watch the video LemonT posted? It confirms the points I have made. Look at how many steering corrections the M4 driver has to make vs. the 911. I know BMWs do not perform or have as much sensory feedback as Porsche 911s. The Porsche 911 is a superior machine <period> 
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10-15-2014, 10:39 PM
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Sorry, I got mixed up. I meant the BRZ. The Aozora Edition.  Quote:
Originally Posted by LP700-4 Not sure if srs
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