Why I will not be keeping my 997 GT3, and why "shitty" cars are better cars...

[orgasm_donor]

My most expensive and fastest car was a 2009 STi. Ok, it was no exotic but a pretty nice ride. I really liked it at first but then it got old and the excitement wore off. My slow-ass Hondas have always been lots of fun and enjoyable to drive. Of the 27 cars that I have owned, one of my favorites was my 1974 Ford Maverick that I paid $700 for. It was a complete shitbox but it had a 5 litre V8, it was lowered and it was pretty quick actually. It cost me nothing to run over the three years I had it and if I got a dent...meh.

Shitboxes FTW!

[originalhypa]

Originally Posted by orgasm_donor

My most expensive and fastest car was a 2009 STi.

My favorite STi was still the blue 04' that I had. It was light, and purely mechanical. It would break traction so easily, and with the 60-40% split in the center diff, it was easy to control at the limits. When I bought my 06' it was a far nicer car to drive, but it lost that edge that the 04' had. When they brought out the 08' model, I was shocked as to how tame and boring they had made the car. It didn't only look like a minivan, but drove like one too. Unfortunately every STi after was more and more tame to the point that they were neutered.

For example, you can't even change your driver settings while the 2015 is in motion. The car has to be stopped and in neutral for it to accept a change to sport sharp.

#weaksauce

[Obsideon]

This thead hit home for me. I love my 996 even though it's a money pit but I had way more "fun" with my 2000 SiR back in the day.
If I gunned the Porsche it would crack 120km/h before I get out of 2nd and would have to step on the brakes.
In the Civic, oooh boy red-lining that rice rocket on every gear and then barely crack 140

[trollguy]

Originally Posted by originalhypa

For example, you can't even change your driver settings while the 2015 is in motion. The car has to be stopped and in neutral for it to accept a change to sport sharp.

#weaksauce

seriously????????//

wtffff

[Pumbaa]

I guess thats why 911s refer as the widowmaker
Especially the older Porsches are even hard to handle, much more dangerous than current gens. VWVortex.com - Why the 911 is called the widowmaker..

[ZN6]

Originally Posted by Pumbaa

I guess thats why 911s refer as the widowmaker
Especially the older Porsches are even hard to handle, much more dangerous than current gens. VWVortex.com - Why the 911 is called the widowmaker..

Not hard to imagine when the engine hangs over the rear wheels and there was no electronic gadgetry back in the day to help keep the car from going ass-backwards into a pole.

[right angle]

Originally Posted by originalhypa

My favorite STi was still the blue 04' that I had. It was light, and purely mechanical. It would break traction so easily, and with the 60-40% split in the center diff, it was easy to control at the limits. When I bought my 06' it was a far nicer car to drive, but it lost that edge that the 04' had. When they brought out the 08' model, I was shocked as to how tame and boring they had made the car. It didn't only look like a minivan, but drove like one too. Unfortunately every STi after was more and more tame to the point that they were neutered.

For example, you can't even change your driver settings while the 2015 is in motion. The car has to be stopped and in neutral for it to accept a change to sport sharp.

#weaksauce

Oh man the first time i tried to drive my '97 STi in the rain. Left turn in first gear? no problem! Hit 4000rpm, boost comes on and the rear axle went out to lunch.

good thing all that time in Gran Turismo taught me how to correct oversteer and I came out unscathed. Probably looked pretty hectic to be honest.

[westopher]

HOLY.FUCKING.SHIT.

YouTube

[SkunkWorks]

Dat Yellowbird doe.

Lots of poo shot out whilst watching that, and I'm not even in the car...

[tofu1413]

walter rohrl - yellowbird meister indeed.

[boostfever]

not even wearing a helmet

[SkunkWorks]

Originally Posted by tofu1413

walter rohrl - yellowbird meister indeed.

That's not Walter. The driver is Stephan Rozer, RUF test driver and owner of planetary-sized testes.

[white rocket]

Jesus!! He's driving like 12/10th's. Haha!

[ZN6]

Originally Posted by SkunkWorks

That's not Walter. The driver is Stephan Rozer, RUF test driver and owner of planetary-sized testes.

Normally, I'd suggest getting that checked out by a doctor for tumor growth but in his case, they are just right.

[jasonturbo]

Back from the dead, sold GT3, bought ITR.

Spoiler!

I'm sorry Marco, please forgive me

[Berzerker]

Profit?

Berz out.

[trollguy]

photos of ITR pls

[Simplex123]

^ It's in the Craigslist thread

[Berzerker]

Now you can get a Whale Penis!!!!

Berz out.

[fliptuner]

He did say shitty cars are better cars...... fucking Honda's.

http://www.revscene.net/forums/69470...ml#post8643826

[Ronin]

Beautiful ITR. I was tempted by one when I was looking around for a new car this time last year but there were just too many modern gadgets I wanted.

...and turbo.

[jasonturbo]

Back from the dead with more random thoughts...

As most of you know, since posting this thread I moved on to a GT4.. which I sold, wonderful car but just lacks the presence of a 911.



And then to an E92 M2... terrible on fuel, great power/gearing for city shenanigans, sold because I just couldn't come to terms with the color or mileage lol.



I purchased 997 GT3 RS, similar to the first GT3 it's amazing but very hard to enjoy on the road.



I then added another E92 M3, I was looking for a Santorini Blue car for quite some time, this MCB unit came up for sale in Victoria and TouringTeg forced me to buy it.



Anna finally, just recently I took delivery of this 2018 R8 RWS



So the random thoughts then...

The GT4 is quite possibly the best driving car of everything I have owned, shorter gearing and the standard I/H/E mods would make for an amazing car. Its got just the right amount of comfort/tech and the chassis/brakes are pretty much perfect.

The Audi R8... well, I'm clearly not the target audience for this car and it has really reinforced my hatred for paddle shifter transmissions. It's comfortable but not anymore comfortable than the GT4. Too much tech, I can't stand all the sub menu's on the MMI, trunk space is laughable for the "daily supercar". I'll be happy when it's sold. I also hate the people who tend to 'mir the R8, the GT3 tends to attract looks from cool enthusiast types, the R8 attracts Surrey buddy guys and other dirt ball types.

The E9X M3, well I haven't driven the latest car yet, but I'm very excited to finally get my hands on it to start the mods. Though the E9X has some faults, namely the dated tech, lack of torque and terrible gas mileage - It is IMO the absolute best value for money of sports car. Its got a great trunk decent sized interior, the car is a nice size and the power/gearing is absolutely perfect for city driving. I just can't think of a better car to buy if you want one car to do it all for <40K. Having said all that, I will get severely annoyed every time something breaks on that car, and it will break on a regular basis because BMW.

The 997 GT3 RS, well geez... Every time I drive it I just can't believe it's a road legal car, it doesn't feel like a road car. It's not a car you want to drive on a regular basis, it's a track/special drive car only. When you are in the mood to drive it, and the stars align (No traffic, good weather) it's amazing, I've yet to drive anything else that compares to the 997 GT3. Having said that, if I was picking a car strictly for driving enjoyment and I was to dismiss any consideration to looks/price/collectibility/etc. I would pick the GT4 over the 997 GT3.

Having said all that...

I tend to feel that car ownership in general is a bit of a struggle, roads are too busy to really enjoy driving, it's hard to find time to clean and maintain the cars, cost of the cars, cost of mods, cost of insurance, cost of fuel etc. There are a lot of downsides to car ownership, at least that's how I feel these days.

I find myself wanting to cycle more and drive less, driving is less enjoyable than it has ever been.

Consider that I am currently living in a swanky townhouse in Calgary with a decent sized garage that can hold all my cars/parts/tools etc. We have decided that YYC is not for us and will be returning to YVR, we know that living in YVR we want to be downtown so I will not be able to keep a garage... all of a sudden car ownership becomes even less attractive as I don't have the luxury of a garage for cleaning, modding, or parts storage etc.

So at the end of the day, I'm left wondering how bad I really want to keep screwing around with cars. In a perfect world - one without traffic, speed limits, and with continuous/convenient access to a race track maybe I would feel differently but that's just nowhere near reality.

Gas and insurance prices will continue to go up, roads will get busier and busier... long term outlook for sports car ownership seems quite negative to me.

I don't watch youtube car videos anymore, I watch cycling videos, I don't shop for car parts, I shop for bike parts.

Mehhhhh...

The original narrative of this thread remains true, expensive performance cars (Say anything over 40K) are simply not worth it for common folks, the E9X M3's give me 90% of the enjoyment that I would get out of any other car I've ever driven/owned. As time marches on I expect that margin to narrow as all cars become less enjoyable to own due to the progress of society and population growth.

[westopher]

Typical hipster piece of shit. You are gonna regret it when your chode is so fucked up from your bike seat you are going to need those paddle shifters due to lack of leg mobility.
When you coming back? Can I drive your GT3? Does this mean you will become anti-pipeline when you cross the Alberta/B.C. border?

[herman]

Will the RS be up for sale soon?

[ae101]

sigh, I wish I had jasonturbo first world problems